JFairfax posted:

what if labour win?

mediadave posted:

If Corbyn doesn't resign immediately after the General Election I think the party will split.

Jose posted:

remember when they were contemplating trying to leave the party and keep the name labour lol

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/Politico_Daily/status/860501120178847750

Ewan posted:

I don't really get what this means. What does it mean by their "2nd preference has gone to...X" ?

Comrade Cheggorsky posted:

a lot of meltdowns today, the real deal general election is going to be interesting

Ewan posted:

I don't really get what this means. What does it mean by their "2nd preference has gone to...X" ?

JFairfax posted:

lol u loving idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhAr_UeroCk

JFairfax posted:

the PLP were briefing against him from the moment the leadership election results were announced

imagine if we had two years of supportive Parliamentary LAbour Party going into these elections

JFairfax posted:

I entirely blame the PLP for being scumbags and undermining Corbyn consistently through his leadership, he never had a fair crack at it and he is too good for the idiotic British people.

Spuckuk posted:

It needs asking again, who would you replace him with?

The problems Labour are having run far longer and deeper than Corbyn.

MikeCrotch posted:

Lib Dem and Green 1st preference has been eliminated, so their second preference vote get allocated to remaining people in the race, in this case the Tory because gently caress the Lib Dems and Greens

El Grillo posted:

It's incredibly hard to see how that could have improved Corbyn's actual personal performance, which was always going to be important seeing as he was meant to be, you know, PM material. He has proved beyond any doubt that he was never, and could never be, capable of doing the job right. Old dog, new tricks, etc.

He's also been surrounded by a tightly closed-in clique of people who are apparently as politically useless as he is (except for McDonnell). There was a fair chunk of the PLP who were willing to give it a shot at first. There have been tons of explanations as to why they subsequently gave up, mainly to do with the leadership's total lack of competence, coordination and communication with them.

You can't have the leadership and then blame the massive public destruction of your party on a few Blairites. We needed the leadership to bring the rest of the PLP on board, making the necessary and sane compromises on things like Trident to do so, and most of all we needed them to have some kind of media strategy that actually does what people voted for him to do - combat the economic bollocks that has been spewing out of the Tory party (and the labour right) for 6 years.
They have totally failed. It sucks, but they have. And it wasn't inevitable.

You are deluded I'm afraid. Most of the PLP weren't briefing against him, most of them were willing to give him a chance and a small blairite wing were trying to publicly undermine him. He loving failed. I don't see how this is so hard for people to get into their heads, given that surely none of us ever expected him to be a brilliant leader in the first place - he was entirely lacking in any kind of relevant experience?

Going to be interesting to see who stands. Seems like Corbyn won't go until they get a new measure through PLP to lower the nominations bar though? Do we know how long that might take?

Ewan posted:

So as in most people that voted Libs or Green 1st preference chose the Tory as their 2nd choice?

Ewan posted:

I don't really get what this means. What does it mean by their "2nd preference has gone to...X" ?

JFairfax posted:

yup, because british people are loving scumbags and deserve to be cut adrift into the atlantic to survive off the bodies of paupers and badly fried potatoes

JFairfax posted:

Shoppers said they were left in shock after realising they had walked past the body of a man – without realising he had died.

The man in his 50s was found dead on Merchant Street in Broadmead outside Optical Express at around 10.15am on a busy day in Bristol city centre.

A blanket was used to cover up the man, who is understood to be homeless, before emergency services got there.

It is understood the man, whose belongings were left scattered around the scene, had previously slept in the doorway.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/shoppers-shocked-homeless-man-died-45823

lol the tories are having people die in the streets and idiot brits are like 'oooh I dont know if I like the nice jam man'

Looke posted:

The left is dead

quote:

As a Momentum member, I'm not disheartened by Labour's losses in the local elections
The local elections results don't reflect the support Jeremy Corbyn has across the country as the anti-establishment candidate many voters are looking for

The local election results are coming in, and the pundits are predicting doom for Labour in next month’s general election. I could have written that line before we even knew the results – in fact I did – because it relies on two hard facts that were never going to change. Firstly, that these local elections are not nationwide and exclude pretty much everywhere that Labour’s vote share has been improving (for instance, there were no elections in London). Secondly, that large sections of the media are committed to building a narrative against Jeremy Corbyn.

But the pundits should be careful because the ground is shifting from under that narrative. Labour, which under Corbyn’s leadership has grown to be the biggest left of centre party in Europe, has woken up. Unprecedented numbers are heading to the doorstep all over the country. Most of the recent polls have the Tories’ lead cut in half from where it was a few weeks ago.

Labour’s army of campaigners were never drawn to the idea of giving up their evenings and weekends by good polling numbers, and they won’t be put off by the odd setback in county council elections. They have been inspired by a vision for a radically different kind of society – an alternative to the rigged political and economic system in which nurses are using foodbanks and four million children are living in poverty.

It’s the people versus the establishment, and for the first time in my lifetime we have, in Jeremy Corbyn, a potential prime minister who is really on our side.

Junior G-man posted:

Maybe it's just time to admit that the majority of the UK doesn't feel particularly left, and that waffly centrism with immigration mugs is the best you can hope for?

LemonDrizzle posted:

everything is cool and there is nothing to be disheartened about : http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-local-elections-jeremy-corbyn-momentum-a7719456.html


so there you go! smile!

El Grillo posted:

haakman posted:

Norwich report: city council is Labour. 0 Tory seats.

Norfolk on the other hand has gone Tory. Suffolk much the same (one area had 80% turnout).

You should all move to Norwich.

haakman posted:

Norwich report: city council is Labour. 0 Tory seats.

Norfolk on the other hand has gone Tory. Suffolk much the same (one area had 80% turnout).

You should all move to Norwich.

JFairfax posted:

yup, because british people are loving scumbags and deserve to be cut adrift into the atlantic to survive off the bodies of paupers and badly fried potatoes

TinTower posted:

In Greater Manchester, UKIP's candidate, the ultra-Orthodox rabbi Shneur Odze, got absolutely spanked. Finished below the English Democrats.