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So NX-01 got to Risa. I don't know why they 1. Only took two days 2. Didn't rotate everyone out and had to do it by lottery. They don't seem to have a mission to get back to, and it took them long enough to get there. You might as well make the most of it if you don't have any pressing need to go anywhere other than lol exploring.
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Instead of watching the highlights I'm considering just watching TNG all the way through until it's not worth it anymore. Does the series jump the shark, and if so, where?
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May 7, 2017 05:26
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Instead of watching the highlights I'm considering just watching TNG all the way through until it's not worth it anymore. Does the series jump the shark, and if so, where? Every season of the show is better than the first and probably second season. It gets a little shaky at times in the last season but it never gets down to first season lows, and it ends real strong too. Voyager is when it jumps the shark. remusclaw fucked around with this message at 05:33 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 05:30
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Instead of watching the highlights I'm considering just watching TNG all the way through until it's not worth it anymore. Does the series jump the shark, and if so, where?
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May 7, 2017 06:02
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remusclaw posted:Every season of the show is better than the first and probably second season. It gets a little shaky at times in the last season but it never gets down to first season lows, and it ends real strong too. Voyager is when it jumps the shark. That's a really good way to put it. The final season definitely falls down hard a few times, but it's never as painful as S1/S2 was at times (really especially S1, because S2 at least has Pulaski.)
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May 7, 2017 06:10
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Was going to say that the series peaked in seasons 3-5, but then checked and saw how many excellent episodes were in 6 and even 7, so any decline is minimal. The later ones show a greater willingness to push the format's boundaries, so the transition into DS9's style is actually pretty smooth. EDIT - Which reminds me, I made a spreadsheet a while ago from the Wikipedia listings of TOS, TNG, DS9, and movies by broadcast/release date in case anyone wanted to see how the overlapping series nest together. I guess I should go back and add Voyager and Enterprise, but... Eh. 
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May 7, 2017 06:18
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Why work so hard? Plenty of other people have done the work for you.
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May 7, 2017 08:02
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Huh, I didn't realise there were only 7 months between TNG ending and Voyager airing its first episode.
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May 7, 2017 12:37
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The_Doctor posted:Huh, I didn't realise there were only 7 months between TNG ending and Voyager airing its first episode. Yeah, that really helps to put in perspective why it's such a weakass TNG lite most of the time.
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May 7, 2017 13:08
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skasion posted:Yeah, that really helps to put in perspective why it's such a weakass TNG lite most of the time. It's also why 'Generations' is such a nothing movie - shooting started pretty much straight off the TNG finale, with production of Voyager starting up at the same time. One really gets the impression it got lost in the shuffle.
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May 7, 2017 13:15
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The_Doctor posted:Huh, I didn't realise there were only 7 months between TNG ending and Voyager airing its first episode. Back in the day it was inconceivable that we could go a year without two simultaneously running Star Trek shows. And not even one in the off season like Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead, they had to be on at the same time.
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May 7, 2017 13:19
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skasion posted:Yeah, that really helps to put in perspective why it's such a weakass TNG lite most of the time. They changed it later in the run, but the first half of Voyager's first season had production numbers starting as 80x because it was basically the 8th season of TNG.
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May 7, 2017 13:23
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Zesty posted:Why work so hard? Plenty of other people have done the work for you. Because it was more fun than actual work.  But seriously, thanks for the link. Color coded!
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May 7, 2017 14:49
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8one6 posted:They changed it later in the run, but the first half of Voyager's first season had production numbers starting as 80x because it was basically the 8th season of TNG. Was it always planned that DS9 and VOY would both follow TNG (DS9 overlapping with the last couple of seasons, of course), or was VOY conceived and hurried out because of criticisms of DS9 being too different?
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May 7, 2017 15:24
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Voyager was shoved out the door because Paramount wanted a Star Trek show to be the flagship of UPN and they already had syndication contracts in place for DS9.
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May 7, 2017 16:04
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Chris Pine hosted SNL last night and they did a Star Trek skit. It's serviceable, but of note is Pine in the TOS uniform and on a facsimile of the tv bridge, and doing a credible Shatner version of Kirk. Am I wrong that I kinda want to see him do that in the movies?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuFfmnu34rs
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Astroman posted:Chris Pine hosted SNL last night and they did a Star Trek skit. It's serviceable, but of note is Pine in the TOS uniform and on a facsimile of the tv bridge, and doing a credible Shatner version of Kirk. Every now and again he goes full-Shatner. Best example I can think of is when he comes onto the bridge at the end of '09 and proclaims, "Bones!  " Pure Shatner.
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Timby posted:Every now and again he goes full-Shatner. Best example I can think of is when he comes onto the bridge at the end of '09 and proclaims, "Bones! He did some Shat during the Kobayashi Maru in 09.
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Astroman posted:Chris Pine hosted SNL last night and they did a Star Trek skit. It's serviceable, but of note is Pine in the TOS uniform and on a facsimile of the tv bridge, and doing a credible Shatner version of Kirk. It'd be really fun if he did  If anyone sexually harassed Nichelle Nichols I think they'd just keep on shooting cause  Also Neil Degrasse Tyson getting off to his own out of place science references is hilarious vermin fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 18:52
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I'm a little familiar with the generations uniform story, but was ds9 the first place to see the uniforms they ended up using in generations? I'd always thought the movie used them first.
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May 8, 2017 03:38
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grilldos posted:He did some Shat during the Kobayashi Maru in 09. The apple was a fantastic callback to TWOK. Apparently unintentional, but I take what I can get.
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Kingtheninja posted:I'm a little familiar with the generations uniform story, but was ds9 the first place to see the uniforms they ended up using in generations? I'd always thought the movie used them first. Nope, DS9 had them for its premiere in 1993. Generations was 1994.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Nope, DS9 had them for its premiere in 1993. Generations was 1994. And it wasn't even their own costumes. They had to borrow ones the main cast of DS9 wore.
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Evek posted:And it wasn't even their own costumes. They had to borrow ones the main cast of DS9 wore. This is one of the most seriously bizarre facts I know in any subject. It honestly baffles me.
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May 8, 2017 04:07
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Voyager has a really nice theme song and opening credits. Shame about everything that happens after that's over.
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The Bloop posted:This is one of the most seriously bizarre facts I know in any subject. It honestly baffles me. They can spend millions to make a movie, but can't make a few uniforms for reasons. I can imagine Levar Burton looking at some incredibly expensive catering on set and thinking "you know, if we cut that back by just 20% I probably wouldn't have to wear some other guys clothes."
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May 8, 2017 04:13
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Didn't that happen again when DS9 got their next costumes?
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Astroman posted:They can spend millions to make a movie, but can't make a few uniforms for reasons. The actress for Ezri arrives for her first day on set and realizes the catering table hasn't been changed in three seasons. They just keep adding layers of stale thrown out bagels to hide the more unsavory parts.
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Grand Fromage posted:Voyager has a really nice theme song and opening credits. Except for that one shot where they forgot to apply some textures to the ship and never fixed it so when it flies dramatically in front of the camera there are a bunch of black squares on the bottom.   I feel like it's symbolic of the show. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 04:28 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 04:24
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Has anyone played Star Trek: A Final Unity? I just installed it today but only had time to play for a few minutes. With full audio and different dialog choices and poo poo, it seems promising.
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May 8, 2017 04:31
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MikeJF posted:Except for that one shot where they forgot to apply some textures to the ship and never fixed it so when it flies dramatically in front of the camera there are a bunch of black squares on the bottom. Honestly, the resolution of 480p makes it pretty drat hard to tell that the textures are missing in that shot. I suspect they knew and could have re-rendered the shot but didn't care enough because they also knew a fraction of a percent of people would have TVs clear enough and a high enough degree of the 'tism to figure it out.
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TheBigAristotle posted:Has anyone played Star Trek: A Final Unity? I just installed it today but only had time to play for a few minutes. With full audio and different dialog choices and poo poo, it seems promising. I remember it being really good and by far the most Star Trek of any Star Trek game, but I was also ten the last time I played it. How did you get it working? I've always wanted to replay it but modern computers just say "gently caress this noise" and no emulators or workarounds I've ever tried do anything. Best I managed was to get it to start but without audio and everything running too fast.
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We should talk about how bad the Klingon wedding outfits are. because they look like Renaissance Festival workers
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Dorn looks embarrassed as hell.
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Grand Fromage posted:I remember it being really good and by far the most Star Trek of any Star Trek game, but I was also ten the last time I played it. Wouldn't DosBox be enough? I remember it bitching about wanting to run in pure dos mode when I tried to run it in Windows 95 back in the day. I don't think I ever completed that one. 25th anniversary and Judgement Rites were great though. I had them on cd, but I think I also bought the gog version during a summer sale in the past 2 years. Makes me want to replay those two. Fortunately, the gog versions include the manual with the map that acted like copy protection.
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Nullsmack posted:Wouldn't DosBox be enough? It didn't work in DosBox. Maybe with a more recent version, I haven't tried in a while.
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Only Star Trek game I ever played was a demo for Klingon Academy. I was poo poo at 3D flight then and I'm poo poo at it now but I remember thinking the Klingon opera themes and the main menu were cool as heck and the sinister Starfleet music was awesome too. If you can find the soundtrack give it a listen.
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I remember playing the Star Trek: Borg interactive movie game and it was great fun because John DeLancie owns. Though my friend and I had a loving devil of a time clicking the button on the bottom of the phaser, cause the game gives you like a split second to react.
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May 8, 2017 05:22
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I spent a ridiculous number of hours as a teenager playing Armada, Armada 2, and Birth of the Federation.
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Kazinsal posted:Honestly, the resolution of 480p makes it pretty drat hard to tell that the textures are missing in that shot. I suspect they knew and could have re-rendered the shot but didn't care enough because they also knew a fraction of a percent of people would have TVs clear enough and a high enough degree of the 'tism to figure it out. True enough, but come on, it's the opening credits. And it's trek, their entire core base has the tism. Grand Fromage posted:I remember it being really good and by far the most Star Trek of any Star Trek game, but I was also ten the last time I played it. Between Voco and Deepvoice we're probably about maybe two or three years out from commercial solutions being able to convincingly recreate voices with full range of emotion and acting, so I'm hoping that that leads to some new adventure games from TOS and TNG. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:10 on May 8, 2017 |
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