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Before we get further in this conversation, everyone remember that the point of the bechdel test isn't "a particular show is sexist if it fails the test", it's "the industry is sexist if most shows fail the test". It's fine for a show to be about men, it's just that almost every show is one of those.
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Sagebrush posted:I've been thinking about it and Breaking Bad fails the Bechdel test pretty spectacularly for a critically-acclaimed TV series with 5 seasons I think you'll find that Skyler and Lydia met at the car wash!
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May 7, 2017 20:58
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Ditocoaf posted:Before we get further in this conversation, everyone remember that the point of the bechdel test isn't "a particular show is sexist if it fails the test", it's "the industry is sexist if most shows fail the test". It's fine for a show to be about men, it's just that almost every show is one of those. I wonder if there's been an uptick in non-consequential dialogues between female characters in movies because of the Bechdel test, though I can't really say I've noticed one. I also don't watch movies that often so I wouldn't know.
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May 7, 2017 21:05
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Sagebrush posted:I've been thinking about it and Breaking Bad fails the Bechdel test pretty spectacularly for a critically-acclaimed TV series with 5 seasons Wrong, Skyler and Marie had a dumbshit conversation about a stolen tiara where Skyler was her typical bitchy self forcing Marie to apologize even though it was something that had happened many episodes prior. Therefore, the series is not sexist. Thank you lovely pointless shoplifting storyline.
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May 7, 2017 21:26
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There's a Breaking Bad thread for you all to have this lovely argument for the thousandth time.
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May 7, 2017 22:46
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This is also a Breaking Bad thread.
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May 7, 2017 23:06
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Hey, for everyone who loved Erin from Davis and Main, she's in the second season of Love on Netflix.
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May 7, 2017 23:09
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Please spoiler all Breaking Bad discussion tia
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May 8, 2017 00:56
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-Walt's a bad guy! -Tuco is crazy! -Jesse moves to Alaska and opens a furniture store!
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May 8, 2017 01:05
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Ditocoaf posted:Before we get further in this conversation, everyone remember that the point of the bechdel test isn't "a particular show is sexist if it fails the test", it's "the industry is sexist if most shows fail the test". It's fine for a show to be about men, it's just that almost every show is one of those. drunken officeparty posted:Whoa Mikes niece of daughter in law or whatever the gently caress is played by the sister that bangs her brother in Rome
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May 8, 2017 02:28
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sticklefifer posted:Yeah, but just like everything on the internet, people don't use it the way it was intended. It's also by no means a hallmark of quality of the characters it describes. A scene with a bunch of offensively stereotypical ditzy blondes talking about shoes, shopping, lipstick, and babies would pass, but a strong female soldier leading a group of men to victory wouldn't. It's a flawed and silly benchmark in that regard. I think it's particularly meaningful in a TV show, though, where you have dozens of hours of content. Breaking Bad is about 48 hours long, and throughout that entire run, there's been one (1) conversation, lasting like 3 minutes, that was between two women and which was not about a man or the activities of a man. Of course, Breaking Bad is also a show that's centered around a man, and it's predominantly about violent crime, which is almost exclusively committed by men. But still pretty sobering to see that reality and just how accepted it is by society.
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May 8, 2017 02:44
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real life fails the Bechdel test
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May 8, 2017 02:57
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May 8, 2017 02:59
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Is it time for the next episode yet?
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May 8, 2017 03:01
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The Bechdel Test is not meant to be taken seriously when applied without any kind of context, especially when you're only talking about how it applies to one piece of media at a time. The novel Naked Lunch doesn't pass the Bechdel test.
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May 8, 2017 03:06
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And "oh my god Becky, look at her butt" does pass
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May 8, 2017 03:54
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most TV show are about men because females are boring
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May 8, 2017 04:42
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Ein cooler Typ posted:most TV show are about men because females are boring mlyp as a boring female, I know whereof I speak 
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just rewatched crawl space and remembered that it's the best episode of television of all time alright thanks for reading yall can go back to ferengi debate club now
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Venuz Patrol posted:just rewatched crawl space and remembered that it's the best episode of television of all time alright thanks for reading yall can go back to ferengi debate club now Look, we're all just briefly interrupting a conversation that's nerdier than we are. None of us care as much as everyone else obviously cares. That's why the thread is bad, that's why the thread is good. You can't act like an outsider, here.
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May 8, 2017 10:28
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I'm looking forward to the hot take on medium.com about why Breaking Bad and by extension Better Call Saul are problematic.
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May 8, 2017 10:31
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Sulman posted:I'm looking forward to the hot take on medium.com about why Breaking Bad and by extension Better Call Saul are problematic. Walter White
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May 8, 2017 10:39
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Crawl Space might be the best episode of tv ever, but the Dexter threads were the best threads in TVIV ever.
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May 8, 2017 10:42
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Ozymandias is better than Crawl Space.
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May 8, 2017 11:00
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I thought everyone already knew that Breaking Bad was a show exclusively about masculine skinheads
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May 8, 2017 13:34
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Its not quite as bad in here as the GoT thread gets between episodes but its close Like ffs its a show specifically about a wounded sense of masculinity of course the main characters aren't sitting about gabbing away about Maries cool new jumper. This like complaining that Oz had too few female characters. hiddenmovement fucked around with this message at 16:34 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 16:29
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Karmine posted:Ozymandias is better than Crawl Space.
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May 8, 2017 16:59
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Fly is the best episode.
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May 8, 2017 17:13
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Kuiperdolin posted:Fly is the best episode. It really is.
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May 8, 2017 17:27
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"Nailed" is the best episode of Better Call Saul so far, but I have a good feeling that tonight will top it.
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May 8, 2017 17:34
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Better Call Saul is better than Breaking Bad but worse than YuGiOh GX.
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Did we figure this season's episode title secret yet? Mabel Witness Sunk Costs Sabrosito Chicanery Off Brand Expenses Slip Fall Lantern 1-800-DOCTORB fucked around with this message at 17:39 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 17:36
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:Did we figure this season's episode title secret yet? That lantern one HAS to involve a fire. Real talk, I don't think the episode titles have any secrets. Last year was definitely a one-off, like BB S2. BCS S1 was more of a jokey thing, anyway. Wouldn't be surprised if they were done with weird title... chicanery. I do find it interesting that for the most part, every episode title of BCS is one word, like it's the odd cornerstone of the episode, or the thing that sticks out.
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May 8, 2017 17:46
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:Did we figure this season's episode title secret yet? Oh man I hadn't read these but I'm psyched for Slip and Fall. Also, I like BB but who the gently caress remembers individual episode names for it? That is the weirdest thing about these threads for me
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Oh man I hadn't read these but I'm psyched for Slip and Fall. Honestly, I have a better grasp if shows when I follow threads like this. I wouldn't have remembered weird things about both shows if it wasn't for goons discussing stuff over and over again for better or for worse. Motherfucker, I have a near-encyclopedic knowledge of Dexter season 4 onward.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Oh man I hadn't read these but I'm psyched for Slip and Fall. I honestly only remember Fly (because it is so divisive) and Ozymandias (because it is considered one of the best episodes of television ever)
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Honestly, I have a better grasp if shows when I follow threads like this. I wouldn't have remembered weird things about both shows if it wasn't for goons discussing stuff over and over again for better or for worse. Makes sense, I didn't follow the BB threads closely. All's I remember is Mike's Voice. Chuck dying as a result of a lantern-based house fire after some kind of Slippin' Jimmy/Saul Goodman lawyering and then Jimmy's temporary neglect seems right up foreshadow alley from those titles. I can already visualize a disgruntled but apologetic Jimmy pulling up, knocking, feeling the heat, calling 911, fin. OR, it isn't quite his style, but maybe an infuriated Jimmy calls in a hit from Nacho or someone and they make it a fire since the photo of an oil lamp on a paper is such an obvious clue as to Chuck's dangerous situation? Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 18:00
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Wait, what was the secret behind BCS season 2's titles?
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Steve2911 posted:Wait, what was the secret behind BCS season 2's titles? The first letter of each title could be arranged to spell "FRINGS BACK".
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Steve2911 posted:Wait, what was the secret behind BCS season 2's titles?
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