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CaveGrinch posted:After Trek, I think it can be reasoned that three of the five Captains have had both acclaimed and lucrative careers after the fact (Shatner, Stewart and Mulgrew.) Terry Farrell had a good long run on Becker. And then you have a handful of others that do the occasional tv episodes or one off movie shots... while others, Frakes and Dawson specifically have gone into directing. Also probably worth pointing out that just because you don't hear much about someone since Star Trek doesn't mean they aren't off successfully doing exactly the career they want. That can be stage work, writing, teaching or literally anything that doesn't add to that IMDB listing. Baronjutter posted:I remember when Descent first came out on PC and tons of people got sick from it. Same when mouselook controls became standard and FPS games became more 3d. I think people get used to that sort of "new technology" pretty fast. Dirty fucked around with this message at 15:42 on May 9, 2017 |
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Doesn't Avery Brooks teach theater at a college? That sounds like something he'd be passionate about. George Takei helped produce and acted in the Broadway play "Allegiance", which didn't run very long but did get a one -day movie theater release. It was a really powerful musical about the Japanese internment camps in America during WW2. You could tell it was something deeply personal to Takei. It's not success in the sense of tons of top acting gigs, but it sounds like exactly what he wants to be doing.
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Zesty posted:Still working through the Fifty Year mission. Susan Sackett is a liar or delusional. Likely both. Sackett is such a weird person. She was hopelessly in love with Roddenberry, sleeping with him for like twenty years, but steadfastly denying it in public. Then like a half-decade after he died, she published her memoir, half of which is "everyone screwed Gene, he's the only one who ever did anything" and the other half being "here are the various ways Gene liked to gently caress me." There's a bit in Fifty-Year Mission in which she rips Piller to shreds because he called all the staff together to announce that Roddenberry was dead, and she's like, "It was so callous and lovely of him to do that." What the gently caress was he supposed to do, send the news via carrier pigeon? Timby fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 9, 2017 |
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Zonko_T.M. posted:Doesn't Avery Brooks teach theater at a college? That sounds like something he'd be passionate about. Yep, theater professor at Rutgers, IIRC. His absence from television and movies post-DS9 is by choice.
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Timby posted:There's a bit in Fifty-Year Mission in which she rips Piller to shreds because he called all the staff together to announce that Roddenberry was dead, and she's like, "It was so callous and lovely of him to do that." What the gently caress was he supposed to do, send the news via carrier pigeon? Each individual must be notified via black envelope
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After reading through both 50 Year Mission books it's pretty clear that Sackett is nuts, and yes, she was hopelessly in love with Gene. Honestly I think Berman and Beltran were the two people I didn't expect to come away with a higher opinion of after reading the books. Although in Berman's case he clearly sexually harassed at least one person. The way he talks about women in some of those excerpts is not normal.
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vermin posted:Each individual must be notified via black envelope Why's it gotta be bl- Oh. I see. I'm terribly sorry. My condolences.
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FlamingLiberal posted:After reading through both 50 Year Mission books it's pretty clear that Sackett is nuts, and yes, she was hopelessly in love with Gene. Fade In really improved my impression of Berman. I think at the end he was just completely burned out.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Honestly I think Berman and Beltran were the two people I didn't expect to come away with a higher opinion of after reading the books. Although in Berman's case he clearly sexually harassed at least one person. The way he talks about women in some of those excerpts is not normal. What's the story on Beltran? My really vague recollection of him is that he got the job, saw the atrocious writing and direction, and decided he would just coast for 7 years drawing a nice paycheck and then living off of inevitable Trek residuals for the rest of his comfortable life. And then there was that one time he told a fan to get a loving life or something and then had to do a public mea culpa.
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Drone posted:What's the story on Beltran? My really vague recollection of him is that he got the job, saw the atrocious writing and direction, and decided he would just coast for 7 years drawing a nice paycheck and then living off of inevitable Trek residuals for the rest of his comfortable life. IIRC he repeatedly tried to get fired by asking for ridiculous new contracts that would like double his paycheck or require a romance plot with Seven
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Drone posted:What's the story on Beltran? My really vague recollection of him is that he got the job, saw the atrocious writing and direction, and decided he would just coast for 7 years drawing a nice paycheck and then living off of inevitable Trek residuals for the rest of his comfortable life. He started off incredibly enthusiastic about the show, but got pissed when they ditched the Maquis / Starfleet tension about ten seconds after the pilot, and then just started showing up for work, being professional (unlike Mulgrew) and going home. He didn't give a poo poo during the last two or three seasons.
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Heh, according to Wiki he's been really big on the Lyndon LaRouche movement these days.Timby posted:He started off incredibly enthusiastic about the show, but got pissed when they ditched the Maquis / Starfleet tension about ten seconds after the pilot, and then just started showing up for work, being professional (unlike Mulgrew) and going home. He didn't give a poo poo during the last two or three seasons. The Mulgrew stuff is one of the few things I actually have no desire to learn more about (though I've heard the stories of her tension with Jennifer Lien and Jeri Ryan), because in general I really respect her acting chops and have a feeling it would color my opinion. Then again, Shatner did and continues to do really dumbawful things and I sorta respect the guy despite it, so who knows. Drone fucked around with this message at 16:46 on May 9, 2017 |
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Drone posted:The Mulgrew stuff is one of the few things I actually have no desire to learn more about (though I've heard the stories of her tension with Jennifer Lien and Jeri Ryan), because in general I really respect her acting chops and have a feeling it would color my opinion. Then again, Shatner did and continues to do really dumbawful things and I sorta respect the guy despite it, so who knows. Mulgrew was basically out for herself, and it was more than "tension" between her and Ryan. For example, they'd do the wide shots for scenes, but when Ryan had to do her close-ups, Mulgrew would be off-camera sitting in her chair, snacking on potato chips or whatever, and casually tossing off her lines, giving Ryan absolutely nothing to play with. I get being cranky because the producer wanted to sex up the show (and getting more cranky when the sex symbol sleeping with the producer was an open secret), but, come on.
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Sir Lemming posted:Kind of like how the robes Obi-wan Kenobi wore on Tattooine -- basically, the type of clothes someone would naturally wear if they lived on a desert planet -- became The Official Robe Of The Jedi. Why would someone wear desert faring clothes in a loving swamp?
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Timby posted:He started off incredibly enthusiastic about the show, but got pissed when they ditched the Maquis / Starfleet tension about ten seconds after the pilot, and then just started showing up for work, being professional (unlike Mulgrew) and going home. He didn't give a poo poo during the last two or three seasons. Yeah I ended up respecting Beltran a lot more, because he's reacting just like I would want to in that situation 
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The Bloop posted:The first appearances of the borg really are great scifi though, probably especially Q's (non)explanation for them. Speaking of Q Who, I just watched the episode recently, and while I love it, there are some really bizarre pacing choices, for example all the conference room scenes. There is even a "Captain's Log, supplemental" coming off a commercial break, which implies that right after the Enterprise blasts huge holes in the Borg ship, Picard ran into his ready room, recorded the log, and then came back out to discuss next steps. Edit: Actually I misremembered, it's even worse. Picard records the captains log while they're being chased by the Borg ship at the end... Bucswabe fucked around with this message at 17:32 on May 9, 2017 |
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May 9, 2017 17:21
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Bucswabe posted:... I can forgive that. Odds were good the Borg were going to kill them. You'd want a complete log to send out in the emergency transmission.
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MikeJF posted:The studio really wanted another sequel to TNG, because they wanted those sweet sweet unachievable TNG ratings, and it took a huge amount of negotiation to get a prequel. The entire temporal cold war plot existed solely to appease the studio that it's totally really a sequel and not just a prequel. Oh.. Oh god. Prequels ruin everything. It was bad enough that it was a prequel, but the stupid temporal cold war thing was because the studio wanted another TNG? I would have rather just had the worst TNG clone, or another Voyager, than that. Even though season 4 was pretty okay.
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8one6 posted:I can forgive that. Odds were good the Borg were going to kill them. You'd want a complete log to send out in the emergency transmission. That's a fair point. I think it just struck me because it's the only time I can think of where they used a Captain's Log in the middle of an urgent crisis situation.
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The_Doctor posted:Wil Wheaton is literally the first thing you see in the new MST3K series, and I pretty much quit right there. Give it a chance. Remember that it's supposed to a bit cheesy. Anyway, for those interested, here's Wil Wheaton's cameo, from the first few minutes of the first episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdaXGIXLP_Y The Bloop posted:True, but they slowly swerved toward Space Zombies anyhow. It was just to easy/tempting to follow the trope of least resistance. Zombie with a bit of Vampire mixed in -- "two tiny holes in the throat", and killing the head vampire kills all of them.
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Remember how pulling on the long, exposed cables coming out of a Borg's neck kills them, somehow? It's amazing that Borg shields allow through punches and grappling from species they've got DNA records on.
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Powered Descent posted:Give it a chance. Remember that it's supposed to a bit cheesy. Anyway, for those interested, here's Wil Wheaton's cameo, from the first few minutes of the first episode: Never really considered the injection points. True.
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I was watching a random episode of TNG (The Rightful Heir, the one with Kahless) and Data is giving command over to Riker after night shift and I swear to god there's a weed joke in the status report he gives: "Sickbay reported a minor accident in the exo-biology department at 0420 hours." I did a double take and rewound to be sure.
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Beltran at least in the book tells it like it is. He was not happy that they abandoned what they were trying to do initially with the character. He was pretty straight forward with his answers. Mulgrew apologizes in this book for what she did during the early Seven of Nine stuff and says that she was jealous, but that her actions were unprofessional. I have a lot of respect for her that she owned up to that.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Beltran at least in the book tells it like it is. He was not happy that they abandoned what they were trying to do initially with the character. He was pretty straight forward with his answers. It's pretty challenging to not wear your feelings on your sleeve when you are trapped on a set with everyone for 15 hours a day.
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OK so I sent this to an Archer-loving cousin of mine, and now I need to explain re-editing Star Trek has been a long time thing on youtube Of the people out there, who does this the best? Zonko_T.M. posted:Doesn't Avery Brooks teach theater at a college? That sounds like something he'd be passionate about. Last time I heard, Andrew Robinson is head of the theater department at UC Santa Monica or somesuch
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Nebakenezzer posted:OK so I sent this to an Archer-loving cousin of mine, and now I need to explain re-editing Star Trek has been a long time thing on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMHAZwR-BdQ
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remusclaw posted:As a regular reader of the Everest thread whenever it pops up in GBS, I was turned onto this great documentary on Netflix called Valley Uprising. It's about three generations of rock climbers in Yosemite and the advances they made and such. The first group treating each formation essentially like mountains and doing tool assisted climbs up them, and the later getting more brazen and athletic until people were just straight up free climbing El Capitan when only a few years prior it was essentially considered impossible to do even with tools over a long period of time. Microbrews climbng the mountain because.. he was in love. He wanted to make love with the mountain.
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Bucswabe posted:That's a fair point. I think it just struck me because it's the only time I can think of where they used a Captain's Log in the middle of an urgent crisis situation. Given that it was prevalent enough in TOS to be included in drinking games earlier in this thread, I'm surprised we didn't see more of it.  "Make sure you put something in there after every commercial break to explain what's going on for people who just switched over from Carson or came back from the crapper!"
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Nebakenezzer posted:OK so I sent this to an Archer-loving cousin of mine, and now I need to explain re-editing Star Trek has been a long time thing on youtube Only person I know who does these is Andrew Hussie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxopd_qSVKo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iTsLZFaYIw
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Timby posted:Mulgrew was basically out for herself, and it was more than "tension" between her and Ryan. For example, they'd do the wide shots for scenes, but when Ryan had to do her close-ups, Mulgrew would be off-camera sitting in her chair, snacking on potato chips or whatever, and casually tossing off her lines, giving Ryan absolutely nothing to play with. I get being cranky because the producer wanted to sex up the show (and getting more cranky when the sex symbol sleeping with the producer was an open secret), but, come on. I had no idea this was going on. I want to know more, where can I go to read more about this?
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Conspiracy, the first-season TNG episode where the not-Borg are introduced and later exploded to death by phaser fire: barely a minute in, Riker asks Geordi to increase the ship's speed to Warp 8. He receives "aye, full impulse" in response. ...I'm not sure that's correct??
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Xibanya posted:I had no idea this was going on. I want to know more, where can I go to read more about this?
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My first exposure to online trek fandom was a three page rant about how Kate Mulgrew was ruining Voyager because she was a "Catholic whore"
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Arglebargle III posted:My first exposure to online trek fandom was a three page rant about how Kate Mulgrew was ruining Voyager because she was a "Catholic whore" Proven true via holodeck
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Gonz posted:To be fair, though, this was BEFORE Geordi had fallen in love with the ship. When you put your ding dong in the plasma inverter, you're putting your ding dong in me.
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Cojawfee posted:When you put your ding dong in the plasma inverter, you're putting your ding dong in me. Computer, create a ding dong capable of impregnating Data.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:someone on Beckett's team realizes he's actually their father (thanks to time travel shenanigans) I'm pretty sure this actually happened during the course of the show.
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spincube posted:Conspiracy, the first-season TNG episode where the not-Borg are introduced and later exploded to death by phaser fire: barely a minute in, Riker asks Geordi to increase the ship's speed to Warp 8. He receives "aye, full impulse" in response.
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