Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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Abuminable: Mar 30, 2017; Now, aside from the Abuminable, business goes on as usual.

AP posted:

All the other ships are concept art, the game he's playing is in his head and he can't even get the name of one of the two ships that actually exist in the "game" correct. It's all amazing to me.

With SC, most of the gameplay is in your head, so it's not too hard to get confused. Apart from streamers, I bet 98% of the backers haven't the existing missions more than once.

# ? May 10, 2017 09:38

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# ? May 14, 2024 12:33

Roflan: Nov 25, 2007

I don't read his missives, but if I were Derek and OSC is doing such a good job of owning citizens; I would want them to think I was him... Besides who cares what they think other than for what humor can be extracted. And them thinking up a vast conspiracy where everyone who speaks the obvious truth about SC is Derek is more humorous than not.

# ? May 10, 2017 09:42

Abuminable: Mar 30, 2017; Now, aside from the Abuminable, business goes on as usual.

AlmightyPants posted:

I live just outside NYC, I don't have a reddit account to contact OSC but I'd be happy to hop on the train and verify that he's not Derek. I don't know how to confirm that verification to the internet though. I'd assume the shitizens would need some extraordinary evidence to prove that OSC isn't Derek?

That would be a toughie. OSC has a security clearance, so you probably can't waltz into his place of work. If you take a photo with the guy, it could have been any rando you found in Starbucks. About the only thing I can think of is making a video recording of he and Derek on a Facetime call, having an extemporaneous conversation.

I think that's something many people would pay to see anyway.

# ? May 10, 2017 09:49

Terebus: Feb 17, 2007; Pillbug

Scruffpuff posted:

That's why you should always be behind 7 proxies.

Seriously though, it's incredibly hosed up how bad it's getting. So much attention is being paid to how companies are accumulating private data about citizens in order to make money for themselves, with all this advice floating around about how to limit your footprint etc.

And none of it matters, because even if you're an Amish guy with no electricity who's laid up with a back injury and haven't left the house since before the internet was a thing, all these companies still have a 100% accurate dossier on your every move that they've compiled passively from sources searching for, and talking about, you and your Amish back injury.

So when JebediahBarnRaiser@gmail.com makes his first YeLinkedIn account, he's gonna get 12 ads for Doan's back pills and 273 friend invites from a rumspringa event he attended in 1961.

I'm still surprised how bad ad targeting is for my various social media accounts. I have yet to see more than 1 ad in a year which is actually slightly relevant to me.

# ? May 10, 2017 11:06

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaGF2d1SqE&t=8s

# ? May 10, 2017 11:54

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

SHIP DEATH ZOMBIE

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1 enters hornet in space
2 attempts to exit & body dies
3 still alive but body turns to zombie in limbo world

ACTUAL RESULT
dies existing ship

EXPECTED RESULT
exit ship without death

# ? May 10, 2017 11:58

Chrysophylax: Dec 28, 2006; ._.

XK posted:

I'll tell you what has freaked me out.

I signed up to Linked In a few weeks ago. I used a completely fake name I've never used anywhere before, because I only signed up to message someone.

Linked In has sent me messages asking me if I know people, with 5 listed. One is my mom's best friend. One is my best friend. One is a psychiatrist who did an evaluation on me years ago, that I met once and never had any communication with outside of the one single professional meeting. One is a plumber I hired 10 years ago, who I also never had any communication with outside of him snaking my drain line. The last one is an elementary school classmate I haven't thought of in over 25 years.

It seriously has me weirded out. I use made up names on every service, don't have any social media presence, and they connected a doctor to me. What the gently caress is that about? Facebook has similarly concerned me, but not to the extent of outing my doctors. It's some black magic poo poo.

They know who you are because people in your (real life) social network have given these sorts of services data about you. You're identifiable by being a conspicuous absence, among other things.

The real scary thing is that no matter how strict you are with your privacy, all it takes is a less strict friend to kill your privacy dead.

# ? May 10, 2017 12:11

Sandweed: Sep 7, 2006; All your friends are me.

I hooked up with a girl from tinder, we have no friends in common. The day after she came up as a "do you know this person" on facebook. Is it safe to assume it's because she cyber stalked me on there?

# ? May 10, 2017 12:32

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/68neg4/potential_backer_with_questions/dhcbos2/

Time to refactor the funding chart!

# ? May 10, 2017 12:45

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

XK posted:

I'll tell you what has freaked me out.

I signed up to Linked In a few weeks ago. I used a completely fake name I've never used anywhere before, because I only signed up to message someone.

Linked In has sent me messages asking me if I know people, with 5 listed. One is my mom's best friend. One is my best friend. One is a psychiatrist who did an evaluation on me years ago, that I met once and never had any communication with outside of the one single professional meeting. One is a plumber I hired 10 years ago, who I also never had any communication with outside of him snaking my drain line. The last one is an elementary school classmate I haven't thought of in over 25 years.

It seriously has me weirded out. I use made up names on every service, don't have any social media presence, and they connected a doctor to me. What the gently caress is that about? Facebook has similarly concerned me, but not to the extent of outing my doctors. It's some black magic poo poo.

It's coming from your other contacts. They track 'unknowns' and fill in gaps in the graph.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/andy-serkis-imaginarium-to-restructure-due-to-financial-issues-says-inside-source/0182139

Came to post that, serkis' outfit is restructuring.

XK posted:

Nope. I have a Google account under an assumed name, that's the best there is on me. I never use the same name twice, anywhere, except for where I have to order things to be shipped to my house.

They're tracking my bestiality and incest searches on my incognito browser sessions via ip.

Yes. There is no real anonymity anymore, Tracking takes place pretty much everywhere. You can redirect various domains to 127.0.01 using hosts files (or your own DNS server), but the companies are using aggregation services that allow for the various companies to link up the data in the backend. By the time the EU clamped down on cookies, we'd already moved to different tracking techniques.

One of the earliest was facebook's button, that was an iframe that would track you through you movements across pages. I tend to block iframes because nothing good comes of them, but we've moved to mainly server side techniques.

Given the moves by Congress and the FCC, I'm building my egress firewall with split routing for a VPN, because loving hell if this government is more interested in cash than safety.

Hav fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 10, 2017

# ? May 10, 2017 12:46

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Sandweed posted:

I hooked up with a girl from tinder, we have no friends in common. The day after she came up as a "do you know this person" on facebook. Is it safe to assume it's because she cyber stalked me on there?

It's mostly just IPs and fuzzy bacon-separation logic. A few months back my boss asked me why I would have popped up as a recommendation on her girlfriend's facebook - almost certainly not because it knows there's a connection there, but because we both would've at some point checked facebook while connected to the company wifi.

# ? May 10, 2017 12:52

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Ghostlight posted:

It's mostly just IPs and fuzzy bacon-separation logic. A few months back my boss asked me why I would have popped up as a recommendation on her girlfriend's facebook - almost certainly not because it knows there's a connection there, but because we both would've at some point checked facebook while connected to the company wifi.

This. It's getting more finely granular because they do actually have decent graphs of people.

Now think of what government has, and why agents keep checking up on their nearest and dearest. Even better, it's something that triggers paranoia in people because they sleptwalked through the last decade.

# ? May 10, 2017 12:56

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

AlmightyPants posted:

I live just outside NYC, I don't have a reddit account to contact OSC but I'd be happy to hop on the train and verify that he's not Derek. I don't know how to confirm that verification to the internet though. I'd assume the shitizens would need some extraordinary evidence to prove that OSC isn't Derek?

Well the Internet knows what I look like. If the guy you're meeting isn't me; well then. I made a proof-of-life video.

Anyway, as long as you're a Goon, they won't believe it. One of them has to be the one.

# ? May 10, 2017 13:13

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Virtual Captain posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/68neg4/potential_backer_with_questions/dhcbos2/

Time to refactor the funding chart!

I've been saying the same for a while, because I'm fairly sure they had to secure funding from other sources. Unfortunately anything arising from that is likely to end up more of a civil matter unless it's obvious a gross fraud that could be prosecuted easily.

Edit:

You were also spotted at Millenia Mall, Derek.

Hav fucked around with this message at 13:21 on May 10, 2017

# ? May 10, 2017 13:16

Chunjee: Oct 27, 2004

When Amazon figures out how to stop showing ads for what I literally just bought, then I'll start worrying. I don't need 2 juicers, I don't need 2 pizza stones.

Sillybones posted:

digital fingerprint

stop

Chunjee fucked around with this message at 13:33 on May 10, 2017

# ? May 10, 2017 13:16

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Virtual Captain posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/68neg4/potential_backer_with_questions/dhcbos2/

Time to refactor the funding chart!

He 100% right. I've been saying this forever and a day. That's why I keep saying that only the money is going to do them in. All that other stuff is just noise.

Did you read his latest legal opinions? He knows his poo poo.

WHY CIG IS LEGALLY hosed (PT1, PT2)

This was a lovely takedown when they claimed that I called Sandi a prostitute. They claim to be "archiving", but nobody could find a single instance of me saying it. Weird, that.

# ? May 10, 2017 13:16

Variable 5: Apr 17, 2007; We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.; Grimey Drawer

D_Smart posted:

I called Sandi a prostitute.

Busted

# ? May 10, 2017 13:36

Kibner: Oct 21, 2008; Acguy Supremacy

TheAgent posted:

also persona 5...good? not sure if anime can be good, but is good maybe

discuss

It is a well-made game that is good at what it does. If you don't like anime jrpg's crossed with Pokémon and dating sims, then you won't like the game.

# ? May 10, 2017 13:54

Sillybones: Aug 10, 2013; go away,
spooky skeleton,
go away

Chunjee posted:

When Amazon figures out how to stop showing ads for what I literally just bought, then I'll start worrying. I don't need 2 juicers, I don't need 2 pizza stones.

stop

Okay.

.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:09

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Sillybones posted:

You have your IP address for your location. You have cookies on everything for tracking.

Not sure on the specific details, but this is what I recall of it.. If you have ever gone 'remember password' or similar on a site, then you have given permission for lots of data to be recorded and saved about you (that is stored in your browser). Things like phone numbers you have entered, your billing address, etc. etc. A website does not have to visible-to-the-user ask for this information, that can have the full load of it regardless of what their forms appear to be asking for.

Christ no. 'remember password' is basically the browser hashing the password for you. Form's will be remembered, but again, that's the browser. it's not a _great_ security idea to have a piece of software remembering your passwords because then your login password becomes the primary gate. Someone with access to your machine can then poke around in anything. I wouldn't sweat it, though.

Sillybones posted:

Your browser has a unique (enough) digital fingerprint so cookies aren't actually required. This, along with the above means they basically know everything about who you are, where you travel physically, who you talk to, what your preferences are.

Kinda. Browser fingerprinting uses the headers that are sent out by the browser, usually user-agent, and whatever can be grabbed by javascript, but they're rarely personalized except where you volunteer information, open an account or otherwise enter your data. An exception to this is the iframe, which reports the visitor to the embedding page back to the embedded site. Facebook used this to track facebook users; your account cookie would be reported back to facebook from the site the button was embedded on. Porn sites used this to hilarious effect in the first days by faking permission to post porn.

Sillybones posted:

You connect a phone to your wireless, now your phone browsing and terminal browsing are linked. As is all the other devices you have connected to the internet with. If you take a laptop with you and connect to other places you are now tracked in that physical location as well.

Not entirely. Wifi is not GSM. But free wifi is not free, so avoid it.

People like me put free wifi up with SSL offloading all the time. If you do use free wifi, use a VPN.

quote:

Edit: I really wish I did some sort of computer security subject. The stuff I read on the net is terrifying. How anyone can secure any program/system from all angles of attack seems impossible.

It's not impossible, it's just expensive at the enterprise level, and there's not a lot of 'win' at the user level. We tend to use multi-layered defenses and a bunch of different and rotated passwords constantly. We have software agents that check submitted code for high entropy strings (think API keys) that trigger a procedure that involves a 'do you know what you did' and 'are you going to do it again' education. The trick is to trust nothing and no-one; for example, we don't trust our internal network. Everything is tracked, monitored and watched - although sometimes the tracking is wrong, the monitors are old and the watching is sporadic.

The internet was designed over robustness. You can actually tunnel most traffic over most protocols, which leads to fun like information egress through DNS queries, but they're really, really far out there.

That poo poo about the ultrasonic loop should worry people, though. It's why I don't loving touch Android.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:20

thatguy: Feb 5, 2003

I've blocked ads for the past like 5 years and I stopped using Facebook when my mom started using it so I don't have any of the problems you guys seem to be having.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:21

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Chunjee posted:

When Amazon figures out how to stop showing ads for what I literally just bought, then I'll start worrying. I don't need 2 juicers, I don't need 2 pizza stones.

This is true as well. They so accurately connect me to people I've interacted with once, but I get served ads for poo poo I'd never buy in a million years, if the ads even get to me at all through all my browser add-ons.

lol at all you guys saying I've been identified by my contacts and acquaintances inadvertently providing information about me. I have no contacts or acquaintances.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:24

Zzr: Oct 6, 2016

My internet box is surrounded by cardboard, I feel safe all the time on the internet.

Zzr fucked around with this message at 14:31 on May 10, 2017

# ? May 10, 2017 14:25

Erenthal: Jan 1, 2008; A relaxing walk in the woods; Grimey Drawer

Zzr posted:

My internet box is surrounded by cardboard, I feels safe all the time on the internet.

that wont work

you need to learn from the bitcoin thread and fill your entire computer with epoxy

# ? May 10, 2017 14:27

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

thatguy posted:

I've blocked ads for the past like 5 years and I stopped using Facebook when my mom started using it so I don't have any of the problems you guys seem to be having.

I was a good internet user, never used AdBlock, because I figured ads paid for what I was using, so I should allow them their ad revenue. Then Youtube started running those stupid AT&T ads about hipsters who couldn't accept cellphone contracts because they're too loving worthless to think more than a day ahead. After the hundredth time watching the same 30 second ad about worthless loving douchebags who can't even manage a cellphone contract while sitting in a Starbucks sipping their latte, I went all in on blocking everything and anything.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:34

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

XK posted:

I have no contacts or acquaintances.

Your doctor does, and it's you. If I allow Linkedin to go through my contacts, it adds people that *it* doesn't already know about, and arranges them next to me on the graph. Someone else I know joins and has the same/more details (naive bayesian or similar), it can confirm the relationship. If it's not sure, they ask if you know them....and so on.

A graph is a collection of nodes. You can rearrange them in the most amazing Kevin Bacon game ever. Funnily enough, for most of the social media sites, this graph is where the value of the company lies.

Oh, and facebook 'pages' and 'groups' that people like, and the applications/games get the primary information for a user; name, birthdate, email address. Terms and conditions specifically state that you cannot use the details in external campaigns, but we know how ironclad that poo poo is.

Erenthal posted:

that wont work

you need to learn from the bitcoin thread and fill your entire computer with epoxy

Potting compound for safety. Bats for comedy.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:48

TrustmeImLegit: Jan 14, 2017; by FactsAreUseless

XK posted:

This is true as well. They so accurately connect me to people I've interacted with once, but I get served ads for poo poo I'd never buy in a million years, if the ads even get to me at all through all my browser add-ons.

lol at all you guys saying I've been identified by my contacts and acquaintances inadvertently providing information about me. I have no contacts or acquaintances.

You buy one tiger costume and you get ads for other fursuits for the rest of your life. Its insane. I was born like this im not likely to change.

# ? May 10, 2017 14:48

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

thatguy posted:

I've blocked ads for the past like 5 years and I stopped using Facebook when my mom started using it so I don't have any of the problems you guys seem to be having.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM

Be afraid d00d.

edit: On a more serious note, hacking is a Federal offense, and you're too pretty for jail.

Hav fucked around with this message at 15:00 on May 10, 2017

# ? May 10, 2017 14:52

ManofManyAliases: Mar 21, 2016; ToastOfManySmarts

Can't post for 3 hours!

XK posted:

I was a good internet user, never used AdBlock, because I figured ads paid for what I was using, so I should allow them their ad revenue. Then Youtube started running those stupid AT&T ads about hipsters who couldn't accept cellphone contracts because they're too loving worthless to think more than a day ahead. After the hundredth time watching the same 30 second ad about worthless loving douchebags who can't even manage a cellphone contract while sitting in a Starbucks sipping their latte, I went all in on blocking everything and anything.

Has anyone said Man of Many Advertisements yet?

# ? May 10, 2017 15:04

Abuminable: Mar 30, 2017; Now, aside from the Abuminable, business goes on as usual.

Hav posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM

Be afraid d00d.

edit: On a more serious note, hacking is a Federal offense, and you're too pretty for jail.

It's stunning that Microsoft has loaded powerful hacking tools on Windows. What an eye-opener.

# ? May 10, 2017 15:06

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

ManofManyAliases posted:

Has anyone said Man of Many Advertisements yet?

What's new in refund processing land, Toastman

# ? May 10, 2017 15:06

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

imo taxxe should be swimsuit models because there is an entire subforum for cats and animals friends.

:effort:

# ? May 10, 2017 15:10

ManofManyAliases: Mar 21, 2016; ToastOfManySmarts

Can't post for 3 hours!

Daztek posted:

What's new in refund processing land, Toastman

I'm not Toast and have no idea about what is going on with CIG's refund process. Thanks.

# ? May 10, 2017 15:10

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

ManofManyAliases posted:

I'm not Toast and have no idea about what is going on with CIG's refund process. Thanks.

Oh

In that case, what's your opinion on OldSchoolCmdr == Derek Smart?

# ? May 10, 2017 15:12

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

Daztek posted:

Oh

In that case, what's your opinion on OldSchoolCmdr == Derek Smart?

OldSchoolCmdr == MoMa

eh? Makes you think, doesn't it.

Only joking, Toast.

# ? May 10, 2017 15:34

Sunswipe: Feb 5, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Virtual Captain posted:

imo taxxe should be swimsuit models because there is an entire subforum for cats and animals friends.

As you wish.

# ? May 10, 2017 15:52

Terebus: Feb 17, 2007; Pillbug

Sunswipe posted:

As you wish.

I guess he didnt specify the type of swimsuit model

# ? May 10, 2017 16:03

TheAgent: Feb 16, 2002; The call is coming from inside Dr. House; Grimey Drawer

actually ran into her at serendipity in vegas once, she's real preets

# ? May 10, 2017 16:08

Xaerael: Aug 25, 2010; Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

ManofManyAliases posted:

I'm not Toast and have no idea about what is going on with CIG's refund process. Thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLBmz2rkcMM

# ? May 10, 2017 16:12

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# ? May 14, 2024 12:33

The Titanic: Sep 15, 2016; Unsinkable

Sunswipe posted:

As you wish.

Look at all that water! I love water!

# ? May 10, 2017 16:25

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