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And that's just Warcraft. I think Starcraft is even worse on the corruption. I don't think there's a single bad guy in that series that wasn't just a bad guy. Everyone is a corrupted dude. Even the loving Zerg are just a regular big race that's corrupted to be evil.
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Mengsk was just a dude who wanted power and became a dictator (unless I missed a retcon somewhere). It's when you have magic / space magic Corrupting people over and over that it gets silly.
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twistedmentat posted:"By Odin's Beard, If I, The Mighty Thor does not retrieve his hammer, Mjolnir, within 30 seconds I shall return to my mortal form, Doctor Donald Blake!" I'd be keen to see characters thinking "No one must know that I am Superdude!" while two other characters in the same panel are debating Superdude's secret identity.
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May 10, 2017 13:40
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Warcraft even has a demon corrupted by Light now to become a good guy.
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NikkolasKing posted:Me too. Tthe visual storytelling part of comics will always be far less significant to me because I can't see very well. I want a story full to the brim with text so I feel like I'm getting everything, or most of everything. You'd love Doug Moench (unjustly underrated and forgotten) and Don McGregor, then, too. And if you want to read some Claremont before he was **CLAREMONT**, his early Iron Fist stuff is pretty entertaining (although the second-person narration can be make-or-break for some people), and as a bonus you've got good early Byrne work to look at there.
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NikkolasKing posted:Me too. Tthe visual storytelling part of comics will always be far less significant to me because I can't see very well. I want a story full to the brim with text so I feel like I'm getting everything, or most of everything.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:And that's just Warcraft. I think Starcraft is even worse on the corruption. I don't think there's a single bad guy in that series that wasn't just a bad guy. Everyone is a corrupted dude. Even the loving Zerg are just a regular big race that's corrupted to be evil. It's not even "evil." Their entire motive is a mix between survival instinct and the belief that assimilation is actually beneficial the other races.
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SilverSupernova posted:It's not even "evil." Their entire motive is a mix between survival instinct and the belief that assimilation is actually beneficial the other races. Actually this got retconned in Starcraft 2 so that the Zerg were actually corrupted slaves of the real big bad Starcraft 2's writing is real bad.
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Do the Protoss at least kick rear end? Please also tell me the Rayner - Kerrigan love story ends happy. Does Fenix come back too?
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Gatts posted:Do the Protoss at least kick rear end? Sorta. Also there are Dark Protoss but one of them is voiced by John de Lancie going full ham and he actually winds up stealing the show a lot of the time. quote:Please also tell me the Rayner - Kerrigan love story ends happy. Yes. quote:Does Fenix come back too? Actually also yes, sort of.
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May 10, 2017 19:51
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OMG. I have to buy the game now. So happy!
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May 10, 2017 20:00
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Three games. You have to buy three games.
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Endless Mike posted:Three games. You have to buy three games. I had the first so I guess the second and third now
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I liked the first issue of Secret Warriors, but it's having the same issue with Kamala that other series she's been in as more than just a guest character have had. The writer is overfocusing on her idealism at the cost of her other personality traits. Where Secret Warriors is at right now isn't exactly the right moment for levity, but Kamala is again sounding older than she does in her own series. I would describe Kamala in Ms. Marvel as "fun", but I don't think I'd use that word to describe her in any other book she's starred in.
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One last thing about Warcraft: the setting used to have straight up demons and bad guys but over time they all got retconned into being formerly good, even things like beings made entirely of darkness or space vampires are remnants of non-evil races. The leader of the demons is basically a celestial from Marvel who turned evil after going into hell, except now hell wasn't evil all along but also got corrupted. None of it makes sense. Here are some major Warcraft villains: A black dragon who was corrupted. A paladin who was corrupted. An elven archer who was corrupted. A blue dragon who was corrupted. A guardian deity who was corrupted. A demon hunter who was corrupted. An orc shaman who was corrupted. Another orc shaman who was corrupted. A green dragon who was corrupted. A druid who was corrupted. A different druid who was corrupted. A dwarven emperor who was corrupted. The list goes on and on, I think the only entities that weren't corrupted at some point are the Lovecraftian elder gods in the setting. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 10, 2017 |
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Re: Avengers - Awwww, Victor and Nadia make a fun team. I know it won't last but I am really quite enjoying Doom's face turn.
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Lurdiak posted:One last thing about Warcraft: the setting used to have straight up demons and bad guys but over time they all got retconned into being formerly good, even things like beings made entirely of darkness or space vampires are remnants of non-evil races. The leader of the demons is basically a celestial from Marvel who turned evil after going into hell, except now hell wasn't evil all along but also got corrupted. It's because magic in Warcraft's setting is incredibly volatile. Warcraft's cosmic level and magical stuff has shifted more towards Manichaen duality where the Self is more important than the magic being wielded and a lot of the characters that've fallen usually do so of their own volition or through other things that lead them down that path.
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Vanderdeath posted:It's because magic in Warcraft's setting is incredibly volatile. Warcraft's cosmic level and magical stuff has shifted more towards Manichaen duality where the Self is more important than the magic being wielded and a lot of the characters that've fallen usually do so of their own volition or through other things that lead them down that path. That's a retcon that came in extremely late in the series.
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Before we finally shift back to Marvel, did Diablo 3 had these "they were actually good once" retcons about the prime evils?
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SilverSupernova posted:Before we finally shift back to Marvel, did Diablo 3 had these "they were actually good once" retcons about the prime evils? I don't remember but Diablo in that game is reborn by corrupting one of your npc buddies.
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Nah I think the prime and lesser evils were always evil. But they're different degrees of evil and mainly exist to try to kill each other and also everything else. There's a few angels and demons that said gently caress all this and went to hang out on earth and that's how we have the humans or nephalems or whatever the player character is. Back to Marvel: any word of when the F4 may make a comeback? I would love to see Valeria and Bentley hang out with now-good Victor. Mainly because I can just imagine how pissed off Bentley would be about it while Valeria would be all about making Victor into an even better hero. Bonus points if Doom saves Reed from whatever inter-dimensional poo poo he brings back. Because you don't go and recreate the multi-verse without loving something up.
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While I have a soft spot for thought bubbles I think it's better to use narration boxes because they should take up less space if they're not circular and more space for art is always better.
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https://twitter.com/shallowbrigade/status/862351819024076800 Welp...
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In happier news, the new Rocket series is off to a delightful start. The zany sci fi pulp crime vibe is a lot of fun.
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That should be edited into the first post.
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But you see, I'm the real racist for calling Nick Spencer a racist.
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Lurdiak posted:But you see, I'm the real racist for calling Nick Spencer a racist. Also don't punch Nazis.
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Skwirl posted:Also don't punch Nazis. Is you Nazi? Cuz you gonna git punched.
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man, this shines so much light on everything about this clusterfuck.
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Lurdiak posted:But you see, I'm the real racist for calling Nick Spencer a racist. No, we said you're a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist and a porn star. Nobody said racist. (ATTN X-O: It's from the Simpsons.) Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 04:43 on May 11, 2017 |
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Rhyno posted:Is you Nazi? Cuz you gonna git punched. Just because other people have said you shouldn't punch Nazis in a non ironic fashion, I want to make it clear I was piggy backing on Lurdiak's joke and my honest opinion is that the only thing the guy who decked Richard Spencer did wrong is letting him get up again.
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Jesus christ
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In less exciting news I've been catching up and I'm definitely enjoying Infamous Iron Man but holy poo poo is it just me of is Bendis decompressing even not than usual? Also Maleev is doing some good poo poo in these pages. It's definitely an interesting take on Doom, I am missing what doom had been up to in between Secret War and now however, anyone willing to give me a quick blurb?
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annoying tony stark mostly. it's in invincible iron man running up to the end of civil war 2, where riri williams takes over
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Is Elektra any good? I'm not reading Bullseye because of my complete disdain for the character but I've enjoyed all the books that are obviously advertising to the Netflix Daredevil crowd.
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TwoPair posted:Is Elektra any good? I'm not reading Bullseye because of my complete disdain for the character but I've enjoyed all the books that are obviously advertising to the Netflix Daredevil crowd. It's pretty mediocre I think. The best part about it is that I like the new costume that I assume is from the Netflix series more than the old one, which I'm sure speaks quite a bit about how good it is.
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TwoPair posted:Is Elektra any good? I'm not reading Bullseye because of my complete disdain for the character but I've enjoyed all the books that are obviously advertising to the Netflix Daredevil crowd. I'm one of the like five people who actually likes Elektra and even I'm pretty fuckin 'meh' on it.
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