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Just saw some rumbling on Facebook about this bill, which passed the Assembly yesterday: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB22 It replaces references to "the Communist Party" with more generic references to any organization that advocates overthrowing the US government through force or violence. Seems sensible, right? I just had to write my Assembly member to ask why he voted No. We'll see if he answers. Meanwhile, the Sacramento Bee came up with this headline: "California Assembly approves bill protecting communists from being fired by state." Uhh, not quite, guys. CPColin fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 10, 2017 |
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May 10, 2017 01:27
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CPColin posted:Just saw some rumbling on Facebook about this bill, which passed the Assembly yesterday: This is bizarre in the first place. This allows termination people who are associated with groups who believe strong line (force) but doesn't distinct from hard (violence). Anything other than blind loyalty is considered bad. I should be allow to be government employee and have dissenting opinions. This isn't the private sector where you're supposed to shut up and submit. incoherent fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 10, 2017 |
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May 10, 2017 01:40
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So you would vote No and repeal the whole section? Or vote Yes, so the outdated references go away, and later try to repeal the whole section?
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I'd vote no. I think my main hangup is force is exceptionally ambiguous: Tea party was a "force". Leftists should be allowed a "force" as well.
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May 10, 2017 01:51
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doesn't the original law only refer to CPUSA anyway?
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It's McCarthyist bullshit and I'd argue the entire law should be struck as unfit for society. Do we really have no other authority to remove civil servants who pose a clear and present danger to the republic?
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incoherent posted:I'd vote no. I think my main hangup is force is exceptionally ambiguous: Tea party was a "force". Leftists should be allowed a "force" as well. Go ask a lawyer what 'force' means at law, but I'm curious if you really think it means the same as 'force' in narrative.
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incoherent posted:I'd vote no. I think my main hangup is force is exceptionally ambiguous: Tea party was a "force". Leftists should be allowed a "force" as well. Ya know I think when legislation says "overthrow the U.S. Government by force" I don't think they mean "force" as in "group of people"
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It's super obvious that the point of the law is to allow the termination of any government employee that is a member of an organization that advocates for overthrowing the lawful government through extralegal violence or force and I cannot understand how it is at all controversial. incoherent posted:I should be allow to be government employee and have dissenting opinions. This isn't the private sector where you're supposed to shut up and submit. There is a broad range of acceptable opinions for a government employee, but "the government is illegitimate and should be forcibly dissolved" is not one of them. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 03:39 on May 10, 2017 |
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May 10, 2017 03:33
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its amazing how other states that dont have such a law have managed to avoid being overthrown in bolshevik uprisings
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its amazing how other states that dont have such a law have managed to avoid being overthrown in bolshevik uprisings that we know of
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its amazing how other states that dont have such a law have managed to avoid being overthrown in bolshevik uprisings i for one embrace the people's republic of california
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May 10, 2017 05:07
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CPColin posted:So you would vote No and repeal the whole section? Or vote Yes, so the outdated references go away, and later try to repeal the whole section?
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May 10, 2017 16:10
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http://www.syracuse.com/olympics/index.ssf/2017/05/los_angeles_olympic_dreams_might_be_delayed_to_2028.html Olympics looks all kinds of hosed. Nobody is looking to bid after 2028, LA may not get 2024 but will fast track to 2028 for big concessions? My take: We (LA) are looking forward to the bid for 2024 to accelerate key public transit in the area. Major (subway all the way to the VA) and minor (linking LAX to light rail) were all going to benefit from federal "make it rain for the olympics" laws that typically get passed. We'd get a ton of concessions being the only real player for 2028 but I don't think we should have to wait. I am slightly sympathetic to france getting it because they didn't elect a nazi (participation trophyism itt)
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It seems like the Olympics is just a big, pointless boondoggle nowadays, especially after Sochi and Rio. Let's pass on the whole drat thing and let the French deal with it.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:It seems like the Olympics is just a big, pointless boondoggle nowadays, especially after Sochi and Rio. Let's pass on the whole drat thing and let the French deal with it. Also the games would set off such a loving catastrophic rentbomb in LA metro that it may finally push significant gentrification into Compton/Watts. And traffic, my God the traffic.
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May 12, 2017 01:16
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Skyscraper posted:I don't like this law, but I like that it's restricted to one single party that (I think) doesn't exist by that name here. I don't think it should be helped by increasing the number of people it could apply to. Are you serious? Animal shelters don't hire people who believe in dog fighting, pharmacists can't have drug problems, why do you think the state government should be forced to hire people who are in favor of its violent destruction?
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May 12, 2017 01:25
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I heard local police departments are trying to develop a breathalyzer that could somehow detect whether someone is too impaired from marijuana to legally drive. Is this even possible? Lawyers are gonna have a field day. I have a bad feeling there will be extremely selective enforcement of 'driving while high' regardless.
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FilthyImp posted:And traffic, my God the traffic. _only reason_ anyone in LA wants it is to push all the metro projects through. Every event would be housed around rail or subway connection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ewd4oUD9TI Gentrifying watts is just a metro line away from reality. Vice was ahead of the curve. incoherent fucked around with this message at 01:37 on May 12, 2017 |
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May 12, 2017 01:34
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Please God no Olympics. Metro funding would be nice but it would cost us an enormous amount to host it so I doubt it would be worth it.
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May 12, 2017 03:44
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LA at least has most of the facilities already, right? I mean they've had the Olympics before and they're already building the Rams a stupid new stadium. I'm sure it would still be a mess, but they won't be building potempkin villages or flattening slums for empty arenas like Sochi and Rio did.
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May 12, 2017 05:39
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The olympic village is literally UCLA. We're only building a few sites, if any. Tokyo is spending 5 billion for 2020, France pledge 3 for their bid. We're pretty much using private money, with some state money to cover overages. We're not building loving soccer stadiums in the loving amazon here.
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I was under the impression that the mass transit funds to speed up the Purple Line construction for the Olympics were already appropriated and ready to go via the success of Measure M?  Either way, I think we're screwed thanks to the Trump visa stuff revealing us to just be politically unstable on immigration to the point of madness, but the IOC also seems to be floating the idea that they'll award the 2024 and 2028 Olympics simultaneously so they can avoid the embarrassment of everyone dropping out as they see the price tag, so who knows? (The IOC won't do that in the end because all the 2028 candidate cities would be unbelievably pissed, but it does seem to signal desperation.)
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May 12, 2017 06:08
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Escalation costs are killing the construction industry right now and that's only for 2-3 year terms, I can only imagine how badly they will underestimate the costs 10 years out.
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May 12, 2017 06:23
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Combed Thunderclap posted:I was under the impression that the mass transit funds to speed up the Purple Line construction for the Olympics were already appropriated and ready to go via the success of Measure M? Measures M would only handle the building of a 2024 timeframe, with no guarantee of a olympic-use timeline. The VA stop for example would be a 2026 window, realistically. The bid and M just happened to coincide with each other.
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May 12, 2017 06:30
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So what is it with California and legislating autographs?
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Jeez. If you want provenance, just ask your friend to take a picture of you at the signing. Otherwise just enjoy your lovely autographed comic. I hate to go all "hurr, free market" but collectors that really care about this poo poo should demand provenance, while everyone else can have their cool book with some hand writing in it. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 14:47 on May 12, 2017 |
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May 12, 2017 14:41
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Duckbag posted:LA at least has most of the facilities already, right? I mean they've had the Olympics before and they're already building the Rams a stupid new stadium. I'm sure it would still be a mess, but they won't be building potempkin villages or flattening slums for empty arenas like Sochi and Rio did. Yes, they're planning on building one small arena for indoor volleyball or something. Everything else is using our existing infrastructure. https://la.curbed.com/2017/5/8/15581396/2024-olympics-los-angeles-plans-venues https://la.curbed.com/maps/olympics-map-los-angeles-2024-bid It's gonna be much, MUCH cheaper than any other recent games. FCKGW fucked around with this message at 01:28 on May 13, 2017 |
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Yeah it seems like the IOC might have learned something from the last several games and decided that returning to somewhere established like Paris or LA might not be a bad idea.
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May 13, 2017 03:10
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Oh fun. I just had somebody come by my house and ask me to sign a petition to stop the gas tax, that was actually a recall petition of my state senator (Josh Newman). Fun times.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Oh fun. I just had somebody come by my house and ask me to sign a petition to stop the gas tax, that was actually a recall petition of my state senator (Josh Newman). There's a law for that. If in doubt, they have an actual pick-up-the-phone help line.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Hey guys, the single-player bill is still kicking: http://ktla.com/2017/04/27/bill-to-create-single-payer-health-care-in-california-passes-1st-test-in-committee/ Well, the Califonia Democratic Party just elected a Pharma lobbyist as its Chair, so this will probably die soon.
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Yep, Clinton-voting liberal Democrats are rushing to stomp out the single-payer fire in favor of a "public option." John Burton told the California Nurses Association to "shut the gently caress up or go outside."
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Forceholy posted:Well, the Califonia Democratic Party just elected a Pharma lobbyist as its Chair, so this will probably die soon. Cup Runneth Over posted:Yep, Clinton-voting liberal Democrats are rushing to stomp out the single-payer fire The Clinton rot must be removed root and limb. They brought us Trump and they still aren't satisfied.
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Duckbag posted:Yeah it seems like the IOC might have learned something from the last several games and decided that returning to somewhere established like Paris or LA might not be a bad idea. Hahahahahabribeshahahahaha.
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Some goon help me because I haven't been paying attention. Does single payer have even a possibility of passing? Who should I make a call to?
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Some goon help me because I haven't been paying attention. Does single payer have even a possibility of passing? Who should I make a call to? for the next hour and change these guys on the appropriations committee Members: Senator Ricardo Lara (Chair) Senator Patricia Bates (Vice Chair) Senator Jim Beall Senator Steven Bradford Senator Jerry Hill Senator Jim Nielsen Senator Scott Wiener
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This is tangential, but last I checked SB 179, a bill involving trans rights and stuff, was also in appropriations or whatever, and while it hasn't gotten nearly as much attention it's important too. If anyone could mention it and try to support it as well, that would be good.
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