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manyak posted:Medical surveillance is bad but were talking about people beating each other up for entertainment, its probably less concerning that some sanctioning body has your hematocrit levels on record than if they half-assed the drug testing like in other sports and the guy making 11/11 gets his head caved in by a guy who can afford to abuse designer PEDs Correct
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May 12, 2017 17:26
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Cyber Dog posted:she coulda made an effort to stay much bigger this camp bc she knows andrajde is gonna push her around. she also abandoned her usual intimidation tactics in the buildup, which is interesting. They are both from the same fight camp. And as Joanna tells it Jessica was one of the first fighters at the camp in the same weight class to stick up for her when she moved from training in Poland to ATT. So there is probably a measure of respect there.
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May 12, 2017 17:29
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I don't want to consider the steroid opinions of a man who is currently using steroids to go from 135 to 148, no offense.
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May 12, 2017 17:29
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Work Friend Keven posted:I don't want to consider the steroid opinions of a man who is currently using steroids to go from 135 to 148, no offense. lol
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May 12, 2017 17:34
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i think the moral handwringing over dudes juicing to cave each other's skulls in should be secondary to the fact that we are paying people to cave each other's skulls in
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May 12, 2017 17:36
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i think each of you should one by one apologize to vitor
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May 12, 2017 17:37
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Trast posted:They are both from the same fight camp. And as Joanna tells it Jessica was one of the first fighters at the camp in the same weight class to stick up for her when she moved from training in Poland to ATT. So there is probably a measure of respect there. i didnt know that! thats p cool
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May 12, 2017 17:46
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david carmichael posted:i think each of you should one by one apologize to vitor I've always approved of Vitor's steroids, haircuts and being a pervert actually so I won't apologise, I'll encourage him to be himself further still. I've never paid a penny to the UFC though thanks to 3am PPV
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May 12, 2017 17:48
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Work Friend Keven posted:I don't want to consider the steroid opinions of a man who is currently using steroids to go from 135 to 148, no offense. Why? Thats heavier than former world champion and noted acne cream user, Chad mendes.
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May 12, 2017 17:53
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TKZ vs Lamas for July 26.
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May 12, 2017 17:57
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Cyber Dog posted:i didnt know that! thats p cool Of course having moved to American Top Team that might mean Joanna has been seduced into taking just as many steroids as Andraste.
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May 12, 2017 17:59
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Work Friend Keven posted:I don't want to consider the steroid opinions of a man who is currently using steroids to go from 135 to 148, no offense. lol
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May 12, 2017 18:03
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david carmichael posted:i think the moral handwringing over dudes juicing to cave each other's skulls in should be secondary to the fact that we are paying people to cave each other's skulls in I feel better if its fair
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May 12, 2017 18:03
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Dan Didio posted:TKZ vs Lamas for July 26. Hell yeah
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May 12, 2017 18:03
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Dan Didio posted:TKZ vs Lamas for July 26. Sick Also I don't know why you guys keep saying genetic passport but Frank Mir is 100% going to go to some shady research facility in China for an illegal crispr treatment that accidentally makes his dick fall off
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May 12, 2017 18:12
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There is no argument against "PED"s that makes any sense. If you're an athlete, ideally, everything that you put into your body is a PED, and to differentiate between a banana and a steroid is retarded. Yes, even if your job is to concuss your opponent
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May 12, 2017 18:14
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Dan Didio posted:TKZ vs Lamas for July 26. Nice birthday present
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May 12, 2017 18:14
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willie_dee posted:Isn't that because of false positives? One of the reason cycling was so obviously doped to the gills was that every single test ever was coming up negative, if the tests were legitimate and no one was doping, you would randomly get a false positive and have to retest the sample. That's got nothing to do with the biological passport which, for instance, says your testosterone has been between 600-2100, a bit above normal human range but with enough scope to be realistic your whole life, and if you suddenly start hitting 10000, something fucky is going on, even if you don't test positive for Test roids blood sample wise. the case i mentioned was ruled as a false positive but only because it was deemed that the samples werent handled properly, which opens up the possibility of them being contaminated either accidentally or intentionally. even though its 100000 times more likely that he just took EPO and tested positive for it. so its in the interests of the athletes and the doping bodies to handle samples and testing properly and the biological passport is a big step towards that
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May 12, 2017 18:16
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Dan Didio posted:TKZ vs Lamas for July 26. Extremely good
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May 12, 2017 18:20
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:There is no argument against "PED"s that makes any sense. If you're an athlete, ideally, everything that you put into your body is a PED, and to differentiate between a banana and a steroid is retarded. Yes, even if your job is to concuss your opponent If youre both doing it, then its back to even.
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May 12, 2017 18:34
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I ate a steroid before I went to bed last night, Peeled in the Napao way
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May 12, 2017 18:36
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Eddie Alvarez' Reebok payout went from $40k to $5k for this fight
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May 12, 2017 18:39
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Bundt Cake posted:I ate a steroid before I went to bed last night, Peeled in the Napao way how's your performance feeling today?
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May 12, 2017 18:40
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Nierbo posted:If youre both doing it, then its back to even. Agreed, here's to freedom 
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May 12, 2017 18:40
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from what i've seen personally long term steroid use can have pretty rough effects on guys health. a couple guys on my wrestling team in college that were abusing steroids went on to have severe heart issues or other weird poo poo. i don't really know poo poo about it tho so maybe there were a lot of other factors like how they were cycling or maybe they were taking bull steroids or something
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May 12, 2017 18:40
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Bubba Smith posted:how's your performance feeling today? Good from the bananas I injected in my rear end
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May 12, 2017 18:41
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Skip My Posts posted:from what i've seen personally long term steroid use can have pretty rough effects on guys health. a couple guys on my wrestling team in college that were abusing steroids went on to have severe heart issues or other weird poo poo. i don't really know poo poo about it tho so maybe there were a lot of other factors like how they were cycling or maybe they were taking bull steroids or something Well, yeah, but that's a personal choice
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May 12, 2017 18:41
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Bluedeanie posted:Eddie Alvarez' Reebok payout went from $40k to $5k for this fight yikes
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May 12, 2017 18:41
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:Well, yeah, but that's a personal choice fair enough but sometimes you gotta protect athletes from their own bad choices since they have so much incentive to make them
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May 12, 2017 18:42
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Bluedeanie posted:Eddie Alvarez' Reebok payout went from $40k to $5k for this fight No worries he's getting that Reebok $
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May 12, 2017 18:42
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Its so retarded that I have to eat food to survive but its completely optional to take steroids
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May 12, 2017 18:44
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:There is no argument against "PED"s that makes any sense. If you're an athlete, ideally, everything that you put into your body is a PED, and to differentiate between a banana and a steroid is retarded. Yes, even if your job is to concuss your opponent Thats cool that you think so, in the real world though steroids are illegal
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May 12, 2017 18:44
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Skip My Posts posted:from what i've seen personally long term steroid use can have pretty rough effects on guys health. a couple guys on my wrestling team in college that were abusing steroids went on to have severe heart issues or other weird poo poo. i don't really know poo poo about it tho so maybe there were a lot of other factors like how they were cycling or maybe they were taking bull steroids or something Current gen steroids are more healthier (like they're not good for you but the weight cuts are probably causing more long term damage) and in general it's kind of just the price you pay. Like a successful MMA career is going to give you two bum knees, a bad back, and possible CTE so idk why we all act horrified by adding semi-functional balls and a bowling ball head to that list.
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May 12, 2017 18:45
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Work Friend Keven posted:Current gen steroids are more healthier (like they're not good for you but the weight cuts are probably causing more long term damage) and in general it's kind of just the price you pay. Like a successful MMA career is going to give you two bum knees, a bad back, and possible CTE so idk why we all act horrified by adding semi-functional balls and a bowling ball head to that list. Roofers , also
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May 12, 2017 18:45
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Re: steroids I believe the playing field should be leveled through them being banned instead of being universally accepted because I do not believe steroid use/abuse should be absolutely requisite to compete at the highest levels of a sport. I understand factors like cycling and usage amount play into how bad they are for you, and I also understand this is a sport that is inherently bad for your long term health, but I think if people make a choice to risk living with long term brain damage, it should also not come with the caveat of your balls not working, your heart being 3x the healthy size and your tendons being slim jims or whatever.
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May 12, 2017 18:45
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manyak posted:Thats cool that you think so, in the real world though steroids are illegal So?
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May 12, 2017 18:46
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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome.... to Nootropic Park
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May 12, 2017 18:47
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So everyone whose opinion matters thinks steroids should be illegal in MMA and the "whats the difference between steroids and a banana really" argument is lame
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May 12, 2017 18:48
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manyak posted:So everyone whose opinion matters thinks steroids should be illegal in MMA and the "whats the difference between steroids and a banana really" argument is lame I don't think so
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May 12, 2017 18:49
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Skip My Posts posted:from what i've seen personally long term steroid use can have pretty rough effects on guys health. a couple guys on my wrestling team in college that were abusing steroids went on to have severe heart issues or other weird poo poo. i don't really know poo poo about it tho so maybe there were a lot of other factors like how they were cycling or maybe they were taking bull steroids or something some pro cyclists from the 70s and 80s died from cancer which was found to be a probable result of epo abuse, and there was a famous case of a guy in the 60s called Tom Simpson who keeled over and died mid race because of a combination of competing on amphetamines and high summer heat. there are also cases of botched blood transfusions making athletes critically ill, athletes who have underwent "ozone therapy" which is dangerous and has no actual benefit etc. so to argue that theres no reason to test for peds in sport is insane. frankly there is no safe way to take banned peds that are a) controlled and must be obtained illegally b) untested and c) not administered by a health professional
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