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singateco posted:3) It's hard to feel like I'm responsible for my actions in video games, because you don't have true freedom of choice. this horror conversation keeps drifting perilously close to philosophy chat, but you don't have this irl either; games are actually more like reality in this way than ppl usually admit imo
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Sorry for my poor choice of words. I didn't mean humans have free will irl, humans totally don't. I meant more in a way there are a lot more contexts in real life situations, and you can do some truly weird poo poo than video games usually allow Like that ghost lady part in Witcher 3 was real cool, but what if I just took a dump in front her? she might be real angry and reveal her true nature, I don't know
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the true horror was the friends we made along the way
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Yeah, horror in games, at least of the visceral shock kind, is pretty hard to execute beyond basic sensory jump scares because it's harder to manage the experience. If you die over and over at the same event, for example, the artifice is quickly revealed and it begins to feel more frustrating and absurd. And if the scenarios are managed so it feels like you might die but you actually can't in order to keep the tension high, that kind of artifice can become easily revealed too. It's why I don't really care for games like Amnesia or Alien Isolation. Now body horror and existential dread, games could play a lot more with those than they have
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StrixNebulosa posted:
World of Warcraft introduced non-alcoholic virtual booze you can drink during the alcohol-themed in-game holiday Brewfest, which appears to have been implemented for the sake of muslim players with strong beliefs. I mean I don't drink myself and don't begrudge anyone who won't do so because of their faith, but I'm pretty sure most major religions tell you not to murder people and you do that an awful lot in WoW.
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He gets a hot new surrogate wife
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I always spend a short amount of time in any game where you hunt animals seeing if it's gonna be at all viable to play it without doing so. It's usually not because upgrades are locked behind it so I just shrug and give in.
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Where is new Cabela's game make a new Cabela's game
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Regy Rusty posted:I always spend a short amount of time in any game where you hunt animals seeing if it's gonna be at all viable to play it without doing so. I always try to go 100% nonlethal if games will let me and I usually end up having a terrible time because of it because it's either way harder or just plain unfun because the option was added as an afterthought.
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Re: horror, I had a conversation with a classmate of mine a few months ago about scary games. He said that he can handle scary games no problem but horror movies slay him because he can't control the pace and action, which he can do with games. I thought he had it backwards, that horror movies are no problem because there's no personal agency on your part so you can sit back and enjoy the action, while games punish your character and, by extension, you if you fail at something. It was an interesting conversation, but maybe you had to be there
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Lurdiak posted:I always try to go 100% nonlethal if games will let me and I usually end up having a terrible time because of it because it's either way harder or just plain unfun because the option was added as an afterthought. I did have a lot of fun playing Alien Isolation this way. Of course literaly every person dies in that game anyway, but hey at least I didn't kill 'em.
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May 13, 2017 14:59
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Jay Rust posted:He gets a hot new surrogate wife His hot surrogate wife is also going to die
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May 13, 2017 15:04
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Nah sometimes a cough is just a cough
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haveblue posted:His hot surrogate wife is also going to die Sometimes winning is temporary at best
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Jay Rust posted:Nah sometimes a cough is just a cough Not in Silent Hill.
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May 13, 2017 15:07
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Petition to rename Silicon Valley to Soylent Hill
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The canon sh2 end is he disappeared in silent hill and never came back
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corn in the bible posted:The canon sh2 end is he disappeared in silent hill and never came back So, In Water, which I believe also counts as "not winning"
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corn in the bible posted:The canon sh2 end is he disappeared in silent hill and never came back So the ending where he kills himself is probably the canon one then. Where's the part where he didn't win edit: Alternatively the ending where he leaves Silent Hill with the little girl is the canon one and he just starts a new life because yknow he did kill his wife and all, in which case he did not win because now he has to look after the most annoying child in videogames
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CJacobs posted:So the ending where he kills himself is probably the canon one then. Where's the part where he didn't win Fartface!
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corn in the bible posted:The canon sh2 end is he disappeared in silent hill and never came back actually the canon ending is that he went to silent hill vita with his buddy heather 
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The canon SH2 ending is the dog ending, I thought we all understood this
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haveblue posted:The canon SH2 ending is the dog ending, I thought we all understood this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIovnejnjLU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myeDeblTato&t=14s Homecoming's UFO ending wasn't even a hidden unlockable, it was entirely possible to get it on your first time if you made the right story choices.
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I did it first time to get the laser gun for a hard mode run I never bothered finishing.
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I always felt like In Water felt like the truest ending to SH2 and it's the first one I ever got before I knew there even were different endings. I think I got it because I ritualistically examined everything in my inventory and always would go in the exact opposite direction of where the plot was leading me so that I wouldn't miss anything.
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Really Pants posted:the true horror was the friends we made along the way I always knew Nier:Automata was a horror game at the core.
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exquisite tea posted:I always felt like In Water felt like the truest ending to SH2 and it's the first one I ever got before I knew there even were different endings. I think I got it because I ritualistically examined everything in my inventory and always would go in the exact opposite direction of where the plot was leading me so that I wouldn't miss anything. It's actually pretty cool and deliberate that probably everyone got the In Water ending the first time because the stuff that triggers it is stuff that almost every new player is going to do.
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I hope and pray there's posts like this for Puyo Puyo games where you play arcade games with Satan
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Presumably this is what happens when a kid who wasn't allowed to play Pokemon reaches adulthood.
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They should play one of the SMT games where you actually kill the christian god
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Sakurazuka posted:It's actually pretty cool and deliberate that probably everyone got the In Water ending the first time because the stuff that triggers it is stuff that almost every new player is going to do. I always assumed Leave would be the most popular because if twitch streams are to be believed, most gamers are not thorough at all and will just follow the story while skipping dialogue barely examining anything.
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wizard on a water slide posted:The Silence of the Lambs is ostensibly a horror film about a serial killer. Clarice Starling defeats the main antagonist, Buffalo Bill, and rescues his last victim. But Hannibal Lecter escapes from custody, and Clarice will carry scars from what happened for the rest of her life, because Buffalo Bill isn't really the monster in The Silence of the Lambs. Having read Hannibal I do have to say this sentence misses the mark slightly.  It's a valid point though. Video games are ostensibly about "winning" but it's really the writing and setting that determine how successful the player is, and even success is still not always a good thing in the scope of the broader narrative. Good horror games tend to have your goals be something short term like "don't get your rear end killed" even when overall nothing really goes well for the player at any given time. It does feel like a little bit of a cop-out when the ending is "turns out despite getting killed being a game over before this time it's the ending!!!" but it still can work depending on the strength of the writing and scenario.
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I'm 6 hours into Prey and that pulsating effect/colour fade out during combat is insufferable. Doesn't help that I've been fighting the same two enemy types either.
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Lurdiak posted:I always try to go 100% nonlethal if games will let me and I usually end up having a terrible time because of it because it's either way harder or just plain unfun because the option was added as an afterthought. Alpha Protocol was great for this as long as you weren't playing on Hard. Jay Rust posted:Presumably this is what happens when a kid who wasn't allowed to play Pokemon reaches adulthood. i had some pretty bad hang-ups after reaching adulthood because my parents were a little too nuts about jesus so yeah it is Fur20 fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 13, 2017 |
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