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Orv posted:Yeah, "Ensign Something or Other is budding again" was I believe the line one time. Yep, turns out there's plenty of sperg out there for this character who never once appeared on screen and was only mentioned in passing in three episodes: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Vilix%27pran
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WampaLord posted:Spot on points. Worf's room is the only TNG room that looks remotely close to actually having someone live in it, since at least he decorates with Klingon stuff. Everything else looks like a hotel, not someone's living quarters.
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That chair is either super comfortable or super uncomfortable. There's no way it's just an ok chair.
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WampaLord posted:It's the chair. Look at his posture! This always kinda bugged me. Like, those palm flashlights. Isn't it easier just to have a regular flashlight with a handle? Also for some reason, TNG phasers are more like remote controls than pistols. In the future, they must have just forgotten what handles are. And pockets. They forgot how to make pockets, too. Related: 
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May 17, 2017 13:28
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MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: Oh cool, they're doing a Star Wars crossover.
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Is that supposed to evoke Star Wars or Nimbus III? e: beaten
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MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: I spy a TOS style flip communicator on her belt.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Oh cool, they're doing a Star Wars crossover. star trek doesn't have enough jedi
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MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: Well, I'll be damned, Tatooine
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MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: I have a nasty feeling this all they have filmed.
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Apparently that's a location shot from Jordan
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skasion posted:Apparently that's a location shot from Jordan I wonder to what degree the King is involved
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Any chance we'all get a trailer or at least a few more stills today?
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This is just making me look all that more forward to the new Dune movie. But I have to undercut that hype because I can't get my hopes too high.
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vermin posted:new Dune movie  Well, Patrick Stewart looks about the same, so there's one bit of casting handled.
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I don't think Dune is the kinda thing that works well as a movie. You really need to make it into a Game of Thrones type TV series. It's a really weird book with some very out there concepts and I think it would be difficult if not impossible to tell that story in a way that's both compelling and makes any sense at all within a two and a half hour runtime. The first time I saw the David Lynch Dune movie, I hated it, thought it made no sense and felt the characters were all like soulless robots. Then I read the book and watched the movie again and went "oh, I get it now, this is actually really cool." I kinda like that movie now but I really feel like you have to read the book to be able to appreciate it and get what's going on. I never did read the sequels though. I got bored about halfway through Dune Messiah but maybe I'll give the other (Frank Herbet penned) books another chance sometime.
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David Lynch Dune fails pretty hard at storytelling but absolutely oozes style, which is the only reason why anyone remembers it (and a killer cast).
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Gammatron 64 posted:I don't think Dune is the kinda thing that works well as a movie. You really need to make it into a Game of Thrones type TV series. It's a really weird book with some very out there concepts and I think it would be difficult if not impossible to tell that story in a way that's both compelling and makes any sense at all within a two and a half hour runtime. Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune end up being kind of a trilogy. God Emperor is probably my favorite book in the series but I don't know if that's a universally held opinion. I can totally get where you're coming from though. At one point the plot of Dune Messiah becomes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr07lrGSNUs&t=15s
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Gammatron 64 posted:I never did read the sequels though. I got bored about halfway through Dune Messiah but maybe I'll give the other (Frank Herbet penned) books another chance sometime. Eh, the rule of Dune in the science fiction thread over in BB is that you should stop after whichever book you don't enjoy (or after Frank Herbert, whichever comes first), and I'm inclined to agree. Messiah and Children are pretty solid, but I found the quality already dips after Dune proper. God Emperor is just a weird melange of ideas people seem to love or hate, and the ones after that are kind of a wreck.
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SomeMathGuy posted:just a weird melange I see what you did there. I read all the Herbert books and a couple of the others, but the only one I really care about or would recommend is the first.
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SomeMathGuy posted:Eh, the rule of Dune in the science fiction thread over in BB is that you should stop after whichever book you don't enjoy (or after Frank Herbert, whichever comes first), and I'm inclined to agree. Messiah and Children are pretty solid, but I found the quality already dips after Dune proper. God Emperor is just a weird melange of ideas people seem to love or hate, and the ones after that are kind of a wreck. I've read most of Herbert's books beyond the Dune series too, and Dune is a step and a half above everything else, but even the worst ones are pretty OK. God Emperor is indeed divisive, love it or hate it with little in between in my experience talking about it. The last two are still Frank Herbert books for better or worse, but they do wander off into the weeds.
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MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: Is the ship still awful?
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TheScott2K posted:Is the ship still awful? Based upon the renderings that were seen in the "we've started shooting" teaser that came out back in January, it is essentially unchanged from the announcement teaser from TCA last year.
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The_Doctor posted:I love the looks of what could have been for the Ent-D bridge. Some of these are truly cruise ship-y. I'm the guy with the latte and t-shirt standing in front of the viewscreen
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dont even fink about it posted:I'm the guy with the latte and t-shirt standing in front of the viewscreen He just followed Data all the way from 10 forward, and up the turbolift, droning amiably about nothing in particular as Data started working on his console, trying to be polite, but not engaging whatsoever.
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dont even fink about it posted:I'm the guy with the latte and t-shirt standing in front of the viewscreen  Can I help you, Mr Fink? We're rather engaged with this contingent of Cardassian ships on a potential war footing.  Nah, it's all good. You do you. <slurps latte>
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MikeJF posted:Let's go concept art hog wild. It never made any sense to me that you have this giant ship that carries 1000 people or so, but sickbay is a tiny room with like 8 beds and one operating area. What do they do when they have a ton of injured or sick people? Where are you guys getting these concept pictures?
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They should've had a scene in the first episode with a bunch of people getting treated in that big main sickbay room so they had the money to get it built like they did with main engineering.
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McSpanky posted:They should've had a scene in the first episode with a bunch of people getting treated in that big main sickbay room so they had the money to get it built like they did with main engineering. There is a theoretical limit to this strategy. Engineering was better than sickbay, given it was a choice.
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The Bloop posted:There is a theoretical limit to this strategy. That's true but they also had that crazy huge cargo/shuttlebay set that got used maybe a dozen times in the whole series, how much did that cost? Unless it was a redress of something from the movies.
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McSpanky posted:That's true but they also had that crazy huge cargo/shuttlebay set that got used maybe a dozen times in the whole series, how much did that cost? Unless it was a redress of something from the movies. IIRC that set was itself redressed as the holodeck, so they got decent mileage out of it.
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dont even fink about it posted:I'm the guy with the latte and t-shirt standing in front of the viewscreen drat it, I wanted to say that. MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: Blending in with the locals, maybe? He said way too optimistically.
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You know, if they're visiting Nimbus III, I have to give them credit for being ballsy like that, because Star Trek V is not exactly the most fondly remembered part of the franchise.
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Timby posted:It's not outside the realm of possibility that, since the TNG movies are so old, the sounds have been recycled into effects libraries. Also bear in mind that quite a few of the TOS sound effects were either reproductions of or just straight-up lifted from the 50s War of the Worlds film so it's entirely possible that they're public domain by now.
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Always makes me chuckle when in one breath Galaxy-class starships are described as the 'most sophisticated machines ever built'; and in the very next scene Picard spins the little laptop on his Ready Room desk, presses a button, and it wobbles a little bit.
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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MikeJF posted:Still from Discovery: this is ceti alpha 5
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Gammatron 64 posted:I don't think Dune is the kinda thing that works well as a movie. You really need to make it into a Game of Thrones type TV series. It's a really weird book with some very out there concepts and I think it would be difficult if not impossible to tell that story in a way that's both compelling and makes any sense at all within a two and a half hour runtime. I had kind of the opposite experience, funny enough. I got bogged down reading the book (I was like 12 or something) and then rented the movie and suddenly everything clicked and I was able to devour the rest of the book. I think Dune can work as a movie, you just have to be willing to adapt the material and accept that you're not going to get a 1:1 translation. Also I think Dune should basically be made like one of those old epic films with an intermission, where you're dragging a thousand extras out into the desert and the studio nearly goes bankrupt.
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