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gnarlyhotep posted:Comics is still at best a "my guy is better than yours" bullshit fest Sometimes it's just, "all these guys are poo poo, why are you paying money to read this poo poo?" especially if it's a Mark Miller comic.
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Hellsau posted:Sometimes it's just, "all these guys are poo poo, why are you paying money to read this poo poo?" especially if it's a Mark Miller comic. so, totally worthless in some cases, you're saying
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May 17, 2017 05:35
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gnarlyhotep posted:so, totally worthless in some cases, you're saying Naw, sometimes there's a kernel of a good idea in there and some better writer can salvage something from it.
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May 17, 2017 05:36
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Because real men know how to bleach their whites.
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May 17, 2017 05:37
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gnarlyhotep posted:Comics is still at best a "my guy is better than yours" bullshit fest superhero comics yeah but comics as an art form can get pretty great. r. crumb's book of genesis owns
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May 17, 2017 05:39
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Hellsau posted:Naw, sometimes there's a kernel of a good idea in there and some better writer can salvage something from it. Let me preface this by saying I hate comics and everyone involved with them. Yes, Hellsau, I agree with you.
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May 17, 2017 05:42
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Comics allow for some pretty neat visual storytelling that isn't really doable with regular print. It's not the best example, but the manga Blame has a lot of pages without much, if any, dialogue. A lot of the panels just show characters moving through the environment, and I can't imagine how you would do that in a novel.
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May 17, 2017 06:23
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But really, this is what we all want on the silver screen. 
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May 17, 2017 10:33
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Also, lol at BC's lovely outfit.
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May 17, 2017 10:36
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Jose Mengelez posted:we3 is like homeward bound meets robocop. grant morrison wrote it i think? morrison and moore don't like each other. moore acknowledges he's a shill who wrote juvenile fantasies for money with some occasional meaningful commentary. morrison thinks he's crafting the myths of the age.
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May 17, 2017 10:40
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Lodin posted:But really, this is what we all want on the silver screen. This is what I was saying earlier in the thread. The JLI comics could make a great comic book movie, I think it could be DC's Guardians of the Galaxy. It'd be even better if they let it take place in the past, too. Set it in the middle of the 80s and fill it with cheesy music and worse outfits. The weird shopping channel plot with the villain Manga Khan was loving hilarious and would be awesome on the big screen, it's really stupid but still quite grand scale. Or when he comes back "Formerly Known as the Justice League" with an army of robots that Booster Good pushes over.  There's also a plot in those ones where a network of villains kidnap and mind control a bunch of superheroes so they can put them in an underground fight club against each other, where they bet on it and tally everyone's stats and poo poo. That would be a great premise for a longer plot. Fuckin hire me DC 
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May 17, 2017 16:19
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scuba school sucks posted:I did, and I was like, what the gently caress was going on here? Apparently I didn't smoke enough drugs to understand it? Like the alligator from Kelly's Pogo came to Earth and lamented that even here, disgusting monkey beings consumed the flesh of other animals, then he tried to bring the gospel of universal love to a group of actual Earth alligators and they ate him because alligators give no fucks if you're a talking cartoon animal, what the gently caress ever, you're made of meat, chomp chomp. Wile E Coyote came in as a guest star to say, yeah it's really not that funny when I get run over by a steamroller cause that poo poo fuckin HURTS. hi you're describing alan moore's run on swamp thing and not morrison's run on animal man and i already made the joke about confusing moore and morrison earlier in the thread please do try and keep up moore = MURDER DEATH RAPE, can't get enough of that MURDER DEATH RAPE btw MEAT IS MURDER and also DEATH RAPE morrison = it's okay that a psychic vampire from beyond the universe is eating all of reality because talking animals in capes are going to sing him to death. remember when comics were fun and goofy and not about murder and death and rape all the time?! e: i've never read animal man, is it good (insomuch as a comic book can be "good")
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Mr. Unlucky posted:make a superman movie that's all of those bizarre old comic book covers merged together into the most incoherent mess possible. go watch superman 3
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food court bailiff posted:hi you're describing alan moore's run on swamp thing and not morrison's run on animal man and i already made the joke about confusing moore and morrison earlier in the thread please do try and keep up yeah I was about to say this, but I've got enough posts gobbling Morrisons dick in this thread. When that dude says 'he's writing modern myths' he's not being pretentious and saying his stuff is going to last ages, he's saying characters like Superman, Darth Vader, and James Bond inhabit the modern popular mindspace as Zeus, Roland, and Coyote did in the past. Also Moore has never dismissed the work he cares about, at best he's distanced himself from stuff where he was wrong only after it becomes popular, but more often says "The comics others like are poo poo my comics are ART," or does his best to poo poo on the companies that got him fat because they're KKKorporate. Morrison's animal man is neat especially for the whole 4th wall breaking stuff and meta fiction towards the later parts of it, and for being his first major rehabilitation of a silly silver-age concept, but he's pulled off the same sorts of gimmicks in other stuff too.
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May 17, 2017 17:56
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Alan Moore's Lost Girls is the most embarassing comic, and I knew somebody who owned a physical copy of it and once people found out lets say nobody was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt a gross pervert who should live alone forever.
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Barudak posted:Alan Moore's Lost Girls is the most embarassing comic, and I knew somebody who owned a physical copy of it and once people found out lets say nobody was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt a gross pervert who should live alone forever. it's only *technically* child porn, really they're 200 year old literary constructs you see, and nabokov's lolita is high literature and furthermore 
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Bogus Adventure posted:Because real men know how to bleach their whites. Mark Millar is a hack
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May 17, 2017 21:01
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Reading Injustice, it's actually really good.
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Where are you in Injustice? Let us know when you tap out. (Props to Snyder for insinuating in BvS that the Injustice Universe is next door to the DC Cinematic Universe. The balls on that guy.)
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scuba school sucks posted:Where are you in Injustice? Let us know when you tap out. hahaha where was that?
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Batman's dream sequence where Superman goes punching through people's chests and burning them alive with his heat vision, like in Injustice. Just one little push, take Lois away from Superman and he will turn into the red-glowing-eyed self-proclaimed alien tyrant from Injustice. Of course this is all a dream, but then a few seconds later in another "dream" the Flash explicitly confirms it. He straight up says, "Fear him! You've always been right about him!" Henry Cavill is NOT Injustice Supes. But he really is the Joker's famous "one bad day" away from being that guy. (I warned you Gnarly.)
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scuba school sucks posted:Where are you in Injustice? Let us know when you tap out. Year Two, during the GL war. Spoilers Incoming... My only problem with it is that the conflict starts out feeling manufactured. No cares all that much that Superman executed the Joker. Their big problem with him is that he's started being more proactive about policing the world. But unless you're one of those people who think it's more important that leaders be elected than not be retarded, Superman is doing a better job of running things than the people before him were. The Australia protests and Gotham test case are prime examples of how the writers had to make things cartoonish in order to make Supes the bad guy. Why is Superman forcefully dispersing protests in Australia? It's not like they were rioting. And there's a pretty enormous middle ground between the chaos that was Gotham previously and people getting their arm broken for being out after curfew, which is of course the kind of pointlessly dumb thing that's going to piss people off and get them to rebel. If Superman weren't trying extra hard to be such a cartoon fascist his plan for a better world would actually work. Also if Batman didn't have such tunnel vision and a hard on for playing Red Dawn he'd realize that a better strategy than running a resistance cell against Superman's regime would be to step into the role of adviser and mentor to Superman, who is clearly out of his depth and susceptible to influence. This way Batman could curtail Superman's fascism and point things in a better direction. Instead he leaves the spot open and, big surprise, it ends up getting filled by Sinestro. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 04:25 on May 18, 2017 |
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scuba school sucks posted:I did, and I was like, what the gently caress was going on here? Apparently I didn't smoke enough drugs to understand it? Like the alligator from Kelly's Pogo came to Earth and lamented that even here, disgusting monkey beings consumed the flesh of other animals, then he tried to bring the gospel of universal love to a group of actual Earth alligators and they ate him because alligators give no fucks if you're a talking cartoon animal, what the gently caress ever, you're made of meat, chomp chomp. Wile E Coyote came in as a guest star to say, yeah it's really not that funny when I get run over by a steamroller cause that poo poo fuckin HURTS. It is the question of the meaning of man's existence in a universe, and on the nature of God. It is an exploration of the meaning of fiction overall; the very fabric of stories themselves is examined. Plus it has Animal Man use his powers in really great ways. I thought it was pretty clever that he uses earthworms to regrow limbs.
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Barudak posted:Alan Moore's Lost Girls is the most embarassing comic, and I knew somebody who owned a physical copy of it and once people found out lets say nobody was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt a gross pervert who should live alone forever. Ironic, he married the woman who drew it.
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-Blackadder- posted:Year Two, during the GL war. Rigidity of moral code is Batman's thing so it's in character for him to do that. Also if someone who can tear people apart like they are paper slips at all from strict moral norms a slippery slope could be in effect - a lot of our society is premised on no one person being in and of themselves powerful enough to totally control society without help from subordinates and conspirators.
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gnarlyhotep posted:Let me preface this by saying I hate comics and everyone involved with them. Gnarly hates comics so much he keeps posting in a thread about them just to say he hates them On Morrison: The man himself is a huge twat but honestly all comic authors and indeed creators in general tend to be cunts so I figure it's just good to have somebody at DC who can write a story where nobodies children get raped and eaten
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Neurosis posted:Rigidity of moral code is Batman's thing so it's in character for him to do that. Also if someone who can tear people apart like they are paper slips at all from strict moral norms a slippery slope could be in effect - a lot of our society is premised on no one person being in and of themselves powerful enough to totally control society without help from subordinates and conspirators. Yeah, but the interesting thing about Batman is that in most of his recent incarnations he'd be perfectly happy with a lot of the stuff Superman is doing. Future Batman was running Gotham like a surveillance state in Kingdom Come and it was Batman who built Brother Eye. Tony Stark's paranoid douche-turn in Civil War where it was found out that he had been doing poo poo like secretly combing the couch cushions in Avengers mansion to get hair follicle samples from Thor in case he ever wanted to clone him was practically cut & pasted from Tower of Babel era Batman. As far as how people would react to Superman, well, it's pointless to argue fiction transposed to real life but if he were running around heat visioning ISIS and kicking tinpot dictators out their castles I don't see a lot of people complaining. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 06:41 on May 18, 2017 |
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BONGHITZ posted:Remember Fables? lol terrible loving comic
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once upon a time is fables but good because it doesn't try to be smart it's just a dumb dumb idiot show for idiots and I love it
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Troposphere posted:once upon a time is fables but good because it doesn't try to be smart it's just a dumb dumb idiot show for idiots and I love it yeah some of the "fairest" spin off is good too since it's different authors doing fun stuff in the fables world, other stuff is just as bad as the original fables
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-Blackadder- posted:Yeah, but the interesting thing about Batman is that in most of his recent incarnations he'd be perfectly happy with a lot of the stuff Superman is doing. Future Batman was running Gotham like a surveillance state in Kingdom Come and it was Batman who built Brother Eye. Tony Stark's paranoid douche-turn in Civil War where it was found out that he had been doing poo poo like secretly combing the couch cushions in Avengers mansion to get hair follicle samples from Thor in case he ever wanted to clone him was practically cut & pasted from Tower of Babel era Batman. Brother Eye was to watch the heroes wasn't he? So to prevent divergence from his rigid views on what heroes should do
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BONGHITZ posted:Remember Fables? lol I think I read like thirty issues of Fables. I couldn't tell you what happened in any of them to save my life, and I don't want to read them again to find out. If this is the GBS bitch about bad comics thread, is Morning Glories still going? They had to hire loving historian to write three pages of research at the back of each issue just to unravel the plot.
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Lodin posted:But really, this is what we all want on the silver screen. Matt Damon as Ted Kord please. Matt Damon Blue Beetle and Affleck Batman would be pretty loving awesome actually. And have Jeremy Renner jump ship and him and Damon can do a Booster Gold/Blue Beetle buddy super hero movie.
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Neurosis posted:Brother Eye was to watch the heroes wasn't he? So to prevent divergence from his rigid views on what heroes should do Kinda...ironically both his creation of Brother Eye and his actions that lead to the Tower of Babel were retconned to trace back to when some of the members of the JLA managed to mind-wipe him after he walked in on them having Zatanna lobotomize Dr. Light during Identity Crisis. Eventually he remembers what happened and this was supposed to be the whole reason why modern age Batman was written as being such a control freak and paranoid rear end in a top hat. I think they were supposed to have retconned all that out in one of the reboots, Final Crisis, I believe. But even after FC he's still pretty much always been written as hyper-paranoid, ends-justifies-the-means guy, whose only real rule is no killing. There's even a relevant scene in Injustice where he's facing off against Superman, Flash, and Cyborg who are trying to rendition the inmates at Arkham to a more secure location. Batman just pushes a button on his belt and causes Cyborg to have a seizure. Cyborg can't figure out how Batman got a virus into his system since he just upgraded his firewalls then he notices that the registry date shows that Batman secretly uploaded the virus into Cyborg a week after they first met. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 11:42 on May 18, 2017 |
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ruddiger posted:Matt Damon as Ted Kord please. In recent years, I've wanted to see Adam Scott as Blue Beetle and Joel McHale as Booster Gold.
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Troposphere posted:it's just a dumb dumb idiot show for idiots and I love it Well it reaches the intended demographic then BONGHITZ posted:Remember Fables? lol The first two collections of Fables are really great and fun. I have no idea where it turns weirdly pro-Israel but the world and characters were pretty good for the 12+ issues I read.
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