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Calling the mental health cuts a "Dementia Tax" was a stroke of genius.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Calling the mental health cuts a "Dementia Tax" was a stroke of genius. Dementia Tax is the Tory idea that you should basically sell the houses of people with dementia to the care firms that are looking after them, while they're still alive.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Isn't this the guy who blamed "The Left" for Donald Trump winning? If you're referring to the video I think that you are then he was raging against the liberal anti-racism strategy of basically only focusing on legislative equality and excluding everyone else from that process rather than a popular anti-racism movement which engages and challenges oppression locally as the former relies on retaining that political control while also alienating large numbers of people which in a democracy can end very badly. Unfortunately his language during the video was mostly rightwing, blaming the left as a broad group, and so was very confused.
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clearly the rich with dementia that want to keep their fortune for their families are meant to register their own care home and employ their own carers headquartered at their 100k house
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Okay, now that sufficient british politics has elapsed to justify this thread being called the british election thread: it's nothing to do with an 'eternal law', it's that so long as mutations exist (ie so long as errors exist), any mutation that services self interest is going to out-compete any one that doesn't. That's even if you're starting from the premise of a perfectly programmed AI in the first place, and not one that encounters 'undefined behavior' at some point, due to a buffer overflow or whatever. It doesn't have to share any of the same human drives or neurosis, all it needs is a single instance where it values its own self interest, and your perfect little society or whatever is hosed. It doesn't need to resemble human thought to do that, hell, viruses are self-interested and they're not really alive in the first place.
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rudatron do you also complain that computers don't do what you tell them when you mash the print button 19 times and it locks up
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rudatron posted:Okay, now that sufficient british politics has elapsed to justify this thread being called the british election thread: it's nothing to do with an 'eternal law', it's that so long as mutations exist (ie so long as errors exist), any mutation that services self interest is going to out-compete any one that doesn't. That's even if you're starting from the premise of a perfectly programmed AI in the first place, and not one that encounters 'undefined behavior' at some point, due to a buffer overflow or whatever. i think you may find that any future ai is much more likely to just seize up and throw an exception rather than develop self interest or whatever
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the space communist AI should be a human hivemind so that its self-interest is humanity's self-interest
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jBrereton posted:rudatron do you also complain that computers don't do what you tell them when you mash the print button 19 times and it locks up
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also i guarantee that everything positive-sounding in may's manifesto is going to be walked back on but the poo poo will stick
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Yes I agree. None of the new theoretically good things are actually new promises by the Tories. One of their first budgets, maybe the first or second Autumn budget, had a line in about rebuilding any sold council housing that has just 100% not materialised in the least. They also managed to change the discourse about the minimum wage by slightly increasing it and calling it the National Living Wage (which is a wholly different thing). I don't see why they won't walk back on worker's rights, either.
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this article is kind of on the same level of "never once touched a computer" as rudatrons last page of posting https://www.wired.com/2017/05/hear-lets-elect-ai-president/
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i am very good with computah i'd post in yospos, but all the other guys there aren't as good as computahs as me, that's how good i am
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i trust in jc denton
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yospos man thinking harder than he's ever thought in his life "the president is like... a computer"
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May 18, 2017 14:21
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What if an AI malfunctioned and did something it was in no way coded or able to do, like when photocopiers print whole new books if you overfill them with toner :S
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rudatron posted:also i guarantee that everything positive-sounding in may's manifesto is going to be walked back on but the poo poo will stick Good news - there is nothing positive sounding in it!
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May 18, 2017 14:33
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jBrereton posted:What if an AI malfunctioned and did something it was in no way coded or able to do, like when photocopiers print whole new books if you overfill them with toner :S yeah well guess what - even a cold unfeeling machines thinks ur a creepy loser
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rudatron posted:Optimistic =/= utopian. You build a better future based on how people are observed to behave. You don't expect a bunch of fairy dust to solve your problems for you, than fall back on an elitist superiority complex when it fails (clearly those dirty poors didn't try hard enough to not be racist, ergo its 100% their fault). "race war is inevitable" doesn't seem very optimistic to me
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What the gently caress? I explicitly mentioned integration as the alternative here. Are you blind?
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theresa may is actually just the meat slave of self interested AI MONIAC, and britain is about to get nerve stapled
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Rudatron are you ever going to admit what a sick bastard you are for docilely playing along with alien murder games? Or at least admit that offering a clearly morally superior third option and then getting mad that people took it because you have no grasp as to why people make decisions was a mistake? No wonder you are coming out against immigrants and having so much trouble with this conversation about reality lmao
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race war or forced assimilation, fine
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rational self-interest is fake news, as soon to be demonstrated by the extinction of the human race by our own hands
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Who was the famous science man who said we should fear AI? He's famous and stuff for physics, so he must know what he's talking about regarding something as insignificant as artificial intelligence or whatever. Glory to the Butlerian Jihad.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Who was the famous science man who said we should fear AI? He's famous and stuff for physics, so he must know what he's talking about regarding something as insignificant as artificial intelligence or whatever. Glory to the Butlerian Jihad. This whole conversation defies the jihad! Mods?!
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the tory manifesto is impressive in how brazen it is. may is totally loving her core support in multiple ways shes so confident
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just got a treat in the post lmao   
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Hodgepodge posted:This whole conversation defies the jihad! Mods?! mentats? where are the womentats??????
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the funniest thing about this booklet is that it seems to avoid citing any right wing media on purpose
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british man thinking harder then he's ever thought before in his life: Corbyn is like... trump.
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Jose knows and he has warned us all. https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833742550661951490 https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833745605470023680 https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833743754330730497 https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833749373393645568 https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833749983257976833 https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833751146170691584
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pretty sure you're talking about automation and not robots, jose
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he neglected the capitalist class which will own and profit from the robots once again labour is blamed for the ravages of capital
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Nanomashoes posted:british man thinking harder then he's ever thought before in his life: Corbyn is like... trump. Corbyns gonna build a million houses and make the rich pay for it He's gonna make the NHS great again
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This all over again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YCKs-aBdyw
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