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wdarkk posted:So CE or AFT for my first tier 4 skill on the Ognevoi? aft. The russian DDs are not stealthy enough to save you much. Americsn DDs will still have first strike in you. And you shouldn't be that close to begin with.
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Just watched Jingle's Hood video. That sigma looks a lot like German sigma. What is the Hood supposed to be good at?
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# ? May 18, 2017 00:12 |
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MikeC posted:Just watched Jingle's Hood video. That sigma looks a lot like German sigma. What is the Hood supposed to be good at? Making money for WG.
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# ? May 18, 2017 00:16 |
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MikeC posted:Just watched Jingle's Hood video. That sigma looks a lot like German sigma. What is the Hood supposed to be good at? Getting Clear Sky with gimmick AA builds.
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# ? May 18, 2017 00:17 |
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MikeC posted:Just watched Jingle's Hood video. That sigma looks a lot like German sigma. What is the Hood supposed to be good at? Tanking, I think. It has something silly like close to 70k HP, a really low citadel and strong belt armor that goes all the way up to the deck, plus really good firing angles.
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# ? May 18, 2017 00:43 |
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TheFluff posted:Tanking, I think. It has something silly like close to 70k HP, a really low citadel and strong belt armor that goes all the way up to the deck, plus really good firing angles. Makes sense. If there's anything the Hood, the last Battlecruiser actually built is known for, its durability in combat.
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# ? May 18, 2017 00:48 |
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Much like the Bismarck is known for its excellent AA defense.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:01 |
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Velius posted:Makes sense. If there's anything the Hood, the last Battlecruiser actually built is known for, its durability in combat. Jingles actually covered that in the video. Being the last battlecruiser, the Hood was up-armored to the point that it was more of a Fast Battleship. Problem was, they didn't touch the deck armor. Deck armor that was built to defend against early WWI contact fused AP and not later timed fuses.
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# ? May 18, 2017 01:20 |
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Triggerhappypilot posted:On one hand: Wow, that essentially makes the Shokaku obsolete. Also that surface detect isn't really that bad. If you really want to see bad concealment you should look at the Midway: 16km detect without CE but with the module and I ended up shuffling my captains around (initially leaving my good captain in the Essex because it was cheaper that way) after getting shot one too many times. Gwaihir posted:*five* fighter squads in reserve vs only 2 for the Torpedo Bombers is Insert name here fucked around with this message at 01:26 on May 18, 2017 |
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So played the New York several games now. Pretty unimpressive. I was shattering shells on Fuso's belt at sub 5km range. I guess its maybe match making loving me over a bit, I have been bottom tier, as the lone T5 BB all 3 matches so far. edit: make that 4 straight matches now. I am gonna be Gneisenau food. MikeC fucked around with this message at 04:09 on May 18, 2017 |
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MikeC posted:So played the New York several games now. Pretty unimpressive. I was shattering shells on Fuso's belt at sub 5km range. I guess its maybe match making loving me over a bit, I have been bottom tier, as the lone T5 BB all 3 matches so far. Tier 5 blows donkey balls. the NY is not particularly good. Try and stay angled. Lumber yourself into position. Soak as much damage as you can and remember the middle turret is a trap and not to broadside for it.
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# ? May 18, 2017 04:13 |
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MikeC posted:So played the New York several games now. Pretty unimpressive. I was shattering shells on Fuso's belt at sub 5km range. I guess its maybe match making loving me over a bit, I have been bottom tier, as the lone T5 BB all 3 matches so far. Do you have the top hull? I think the pen on the guns increases. It is like the Colorado in that it's slow, but has a decent heal, decent AA. I never had problems with penetration from US AP but it could be the fact that tier 5 gets terrible mm.
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# ? May 18, 2017 04:19 |
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Tier 5 blows donkey balls. the NY is not particularly good. Try and stay angled. Lumber yourself into position. Soak as much damage as you can and remember the middle turret is a trap and not to broadside for it. It feels like I am just a big damage sponge. I am farming my fair share of damage but 34 second reloads seems absurd, also I am taking a ton of damage on nose shots. I guess 19mm plating doesn't stop much Blindeye posted:Do you have the top hull? I think the pen on the guns increases. It is like the Colorado in that it's slow, but has a decent heal, decent AA. I never had problems with penetration from US AP but it could be the fact that tier 5 gets terrible mm. Honestly it feels like every tier is terrible mm. 2/3rds of my games are as bottom tier ship. Sample size around 50 games now confirmed now, I decided to keep track. All 4 NY games I was bottom tier and either the lone bottom tier BB or maybe I had 1 friend with me as bottom tier. Which is funny since as Wyoming, I was seeing no end to enemy New Yorks, Konigs, and Kongos. And no I don't have top hull yet. Slowly getting there MikeC fucked around with this message at 04:23 on May 18, 2017 |
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The buff to Warspite's turret traverse makes it absolutely amazing.
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# ? May 18, 2017 04:31 |
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Blindeye posted:Do you have the top hull? I think the pen on the guns increases. It is like the Colorado in that it's slow, but has a decent heal, decent AA. I never had problems with penetration from US AP but it could be the fact that tier 5 gets terrible mm.
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# ? May 18, 2017 04:47 |
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New York is a giant piece of poo poo. Tier-wise Wyoming was better.MikeC posted:Just watched Jingle's Hood video. That sigma looks a lot like German sigma. What is the Hood supposed to be good at? Lady Morgaga fucked around with this message at 04:57 on May 18, 2017 |
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I honestly used to really like the New York but I feel it's in a very similar situation as the Omaha where it's been power creeped on to the point where I have a hard time recommending people play it. That said I still quite enjoy my Texas and seem to do decent in it but it feels like you really have to work for it.
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# ? May 18, 2017 05:36 |
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Texas still seems okay when I play it, other than being slow as balls.
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# ? May 18, 2017 05:41 |
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Torbo posted:The buff to Warspite's turret traverse makes it absolutely amazing. Does the captain need Expert Marksman?
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# ? May 18, 2017 07:48 |
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I thought the New York was ok the big problem being you face T6 all the time and the Fuso, Bayern etc are absolute monsters.
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# ? May 18, 2017 09:11 |
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Insert name here posted:Treating your planes as IJN as disposable is a good way to deplane yourself in the late game. The only CV I'd say that truly has "disposable" planes is the fighters and DBs on the Midway, because 136 plane hangar lol. Yeah this is one of the biggest myths that non-CV players believe about CVs. I used to play CV's a lot (not so much now) and it was incredibly rare for me to finish any game with full squadrons. And from my observations of high tier games (playing as non-CV), it seems that every CV player is finishing games with partial squads except Midway and occasionally Hakuryu and of course Saipan. BTW if you really want to shoot down planes, play Neptune. The AA rating is great plus with the range and smoke you are very often shooting down planes and the enemy CV has no idea what is happening. I haven't even taken MAA which is supposed to be the better choice on Neptune specifically, but went for AFT instead since apparently thats better for Minotaur. Des Moines with DefAA is still the best AA ship in the game though, if you pop that with planes about 4-5km out they will all disappear and the CV can't even withdraw them in time.
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Aramoro posted:I thought the New York was ok the big problem being you face T6 all the time and the Fuso, Bayern etc are absolute monsters. The New York has crap range and while doing the BB shake, can really only bring 4 guns to bear. Meanwhile you have the Kongo mashing people at range and the Konig destroying any ship that would think to get within 8KM of it. It really doesn't have the guns, range, speed, or armor play with other BBs in its tier. The only New York that is decent is the Texas for its ability to introduce you to anti air.
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# ? May 18, 2017 15:26 |
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I was hoping they would put some ships on discount today, but they're just plugging the drat Hood and nothing else. Mmph. Maybe I'll get a lovely boat from a container and before I ever actually buy one.
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# ? May 18, 2017 15:37 |
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The Hood Ultimate package is $100. For the same amount, I could buy enough doubloons to convert my premium XP into a Missouri. I've spent plenty of money on this game but that is just not happening.
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# ? May 18, 2017 15:44 |
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When is the Hood actually out in the EU? It doesn't seem to be in the 0.6.5 patch.
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# ? May 18, 2017 15:50 |
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Clarence posted:Does the captain need Expert Marksman? Yea, still does. With Expert Marksman the 180 degree shift is 45ish seconds. With as nimble as the Warspite is, the quicker the guns can shift the better. I'm impressed they learned its a good idea to sell commanders with a few points already.
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# ? May 18, 2017 15:52 |
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Aramoro posted:When is the Hood actually out in the EU? It doesn't seem to be in the 0.6.5 patch. Tomorrow, with Bismarck missions.
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# ? May 18, 2017 16:00 |
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HFX posted:The New York has crap range With upgraded radar and artillery plotting room fitted it has a range of over 20km. That's not crap at all!
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# ? May 18, 2017 16:19 |
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Man I really want the Hood now and actually would be willing to whale hard enough for the $100 bundle for all the extras but tiered bundle releases are dumb and I really don't want to encourage WG to do it more often.
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# ? May 18, 2017 16:34 |
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Insert name here posted:I honestly used to really like the New York but I feel it's in a very similar situation as the Omaha where it's been power creeped on to the point where I have a hard time recommending people play it. This is the case. It compared well with the Kongo in everything but speed, which - to be clear - is a big deal, but when the Konig came along in all it's OP glory the NY suffered a lot. There's nothing 'wrong' with the US standard battleships, but the only real gem in the whole line is the NC.
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# ? May 18, 2017 16:47 |
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Ice Fist posted:There's nothing 'wrong' with the US standard battleships, but the only real gem in the whole line is the NC. That's a funny way to spell Colorado, especially since the NC is a fast battleship, not a standard.
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# ? May 18, 2017 16:55 |
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NTRabbit posted:That's a funny way to spell Colorado, especially since the NC is a fast battleship, not a standard. I was including the entire tree in the 2nd part of that post. Basically: "The US BB tree is fine, but doesn't stand out until T8"
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# ? May 18, 2017 16:59 |
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MikeC posted:It feels like I am just a big damage sponge. I am farming my fair share of damage but 34 second reloads seems absurd, also I am taking a ton of damage on nose shots. I guess 19mm plating doesn't stop much That's because your bow is being over matched. 19*14.3 = 271.7 so anything that's 272mm and up in caliber size will over match you and literally every BB has larger guns than 272mm. If you don't have artillery plotting room, put that on, because you're so slow you need all the extra range you can get. Unfortunately the NY can not dictate fights so you just kind of have to roll with it. Tier 5 MM is the pits. You constantly see 7s and if you're lucky you maybe see 6s. In the NY I usually just mashed W and sailed straight for awhile and hoped for the best.
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# ? May 18, 2017 17:05 |
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MadJackMcJack posted:With upgraded radar and artillery plotting room fitted it has a range of over 20km. That's not crap at all! So you put the plotting room on but still have crap effective range. I mean technically I can shoot at things 20+KM away in my Schanhorst, doesn't mean I should. Here is the problem as Crazed has pointed out: You don't have great armor like the Konig. You get penned a lot for full non citadel damage. You don't have the Konig speed or firing rate which can close down the gap on you. You don't have the speed/effective range to dictate the fight like the Kongo (which has poor armor). This leaves you with a narrow window that you need to get the Kongo to stay in, or delay the time the Konig takes to get to you. At least these are my impressions as I go from bad player to okay player. I'm in the New Mexico, but I will still go run my Texas from time to time. At least the Texas has the gimmick of making all the CVs hate you.
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# ? May 18, 2017 17:21 |
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Texas is better because you can use the middle turret without going full broadside so you can stay reasonably angled and either stagger fire from the front 2 and the rear 3 or pivot just enough to get all 10 shells down range. The AA is just a wonderful bonus. Like Ice Fist is saying it isn't that the NY is incapable of doing well, but it needs some help to do it. I never played either of the lower tier IJN BBs, but the German ships are hilariously more powerful relative to the USA counter parts. Just comparing my tier 5 BBs I deal 53k and 52k respectively in the Konig and Texas while the NY languishes at 43k.
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# ? May 18, 2017 17:32 |
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What is the most fun and profitable premium to buy for between 20-30 bones?
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# ? May 18, 2017 21:53 |
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:What is the most fun and profitable premium to buy for between 20-30 bones? Nothing in that range is really super profitable, but I like the Molotov a lot. The Arizona is ok as well. I've heard good things about the Sims though. If you can swing a few more bucks, get a Belfast though. That thing is a ticket to party town.
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# ? May 18, 2017 21:59 |
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CitizenKain posted:Nothing in that range is really super profitable, but I like the Molotov a lot. The Arizona is ok as well. I've heard good things about the Sims though. The Belfast isn't exactly an 'easy mode' ship, though.
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# ? May 18, 2017 22:03 |
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Scharnhorst, on the other hand, for a bit more...
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# ? May 18, 2017 22:11 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The Belfast isn't exactly an 'easy mode' ship, though. True. But even bad Belfast games can rack up some good money. On the Belfast though, the only real downside to it is that its a pretty bad RN crew trainer, since you need IFHE on it. And that skill is 100% useless for other RN ships.
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