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Been a few days, but just watched the ITV's piece on Corbyn and the Labour party as it stands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYTCdhQu2cs Bit of a hit piece, but there we go. Mount St. Helens in Washington erupts, causing a massive avalanche and killing 57 people on this day in 1980. Ash from the volcanic eruption fell as far away as Minnesota. Seismic activity at Mount St. Helens, which is 96 miles south of Seattle, began on March 16. A 4.2-magnitude tremor was recorded four days later and then, on March 23-24, there were 174 different recorded tremors. The first eruption occurred on March 27, when a 250-foot wide vent opened up on top of the mountain. Ash was blasted 10,000 feet in the air, some of which came down nearly 300 miles away in Spokane. The ash caused static electricity and lightning bolts. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 01:07 on May 19, 2017 |
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Whats his policy on Vimto chew bars
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May 19, 2017 01:04
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it's really interesting to look at some of the mail's headlines about May - like the fact that you can genuinely feel the fact that the writer/editor's been masturbating over them. i'm honestly just fascinated by it
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May 19, 2017 01:18
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Newsnight interview with Fallon was ridiculously crawling. Lost count of the number of times Evan Davis apologised for asking a difficult question or said 'let's move on' immediately after getting a complete non-answer. One thing came out though, Fallon's response when asked about industrial strategy was to say they've devolved responsibility for all that to the local mayors. VileLL posted:it's really interesting to look at some of the mail's headlines about May - like the fact that you can genuinely feel the fact that the writer/editor's been masturbating over them. i'm honestly just fascinated by it What confuses me is why they even bothered trailing this social care policy when their key supporting newspapers are clearly trying to cover up it's existence. Maybe they assume their core supporters get all their news from the Daily Mail while voters they can woo will actually hear about their policy elsewhere.
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May 19, 2017 01:27
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/865320130460479490 gently caress. Just gently caress.
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May 19, 2017 01:59
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Still no mention of the voting reforms (i.e. going to FPTP for mayoral elections, repeal of FTP Act, voter ID) on the BBC website, as far as I can see. Even on their Tory Manifesto At A Glance page. How nice it is to have such an engaged, balanced press.
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May 19, 2017 06:32
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the May Revolution
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May 19, 2017 06:41
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Namtab posted:My boys love and girls love policies are pretty progressive Seems like all discussions in here boil down to the age of consent
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May 19, 2017 08:37
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The attack on the middle classes is just to ensure even less social mobility. The poor are already poor and not a threat. This apparently makes her socialist. And of course the middle classes receive scorn from above and below so no one minds when they lose their family home. This is beyond hosed. Left wingers with poor critical thinking skills are totally going to fall for this poo poo.
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May 19, 2017 09:18
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OwlFancier posted:We... might have a Turkish shop somewhere in boro but I don't know the center super well, don't go there for anything except to get the bus. I'm going to Israel in about a week, I can get some Israeli Halva for you (we steal all our good foods from our neighbours) and mail it to you when I get back to the UK in 2-3 weeks? Edit: steal as in appropriate, not literally take the food out of their mouths, but I can see why someone might get the wrong idea. Miftan fucked around with this message at 09:26 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 09:19
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Miftan posted:I'm going to Israel in about a week, I can get some Israeli Halva for you (we steal all our good foods from our neighbours) and mail it to you when I get back to the UK in 2-3 weeks? Theres a dark chocolate halva I used to get in the gulf and my god is it simultaneously the worst and best thing for you. That with rose and pistachio turkish delights with copious amounts of tea Oh boy (Which reminds me ramadan is super close and that means im going to gain a few pounds off of all the freshly made desserts that illl be eating) Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 09:36 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 09:32
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jabby posted:What confuses me is why they even bothered trailing this social care policy when their key supporting newspapers are clearly trying to cover up it's existence. Maybe they assume their core supporters get all their news from the Daily Mail while voters they can woo will actually hear about their policy elsewhere. so that when the ritual killings start they can say it was in their manifesto and they mentioned it once and people voted for it. The "it was on public display, in a basement behind a door labelled Beware of the Leopard" defence.
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May 19, 2017 09:38
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https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/865461468094840832 We've got laughs from coast to coast To make you smile A real life look at each of you To capture all that style You're the red, white and blue The funny things you do America, America this is you
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May 19, 2017 09:49
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Theres a dark chocolate halva I used to get in the gulf and my god is it simultaneously the worst and best thing for you. The type that comes in blocks, or the type that comes in strings that look like hair? Either way I'd you like that sort of thing I highly recommend baklava.
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May 19, 2017 09:50
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Regarde Aduck posted:The attack on the middle classes is just to ensure even less social mobility. The poor are already poor and not a threat. This apparently makes her socialist. And of course the middle classes receive scorn from above and below so no one minds when they lose their family home. This is beyond hosed. Left wingers with poor critical thinking skills are totally going to fall for this poo poo. It's a smart policy and an improvement on the current one. Isn't the prospect of spending money on quality end of life care one of the reasons ppl work and save into pensions anyway?
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May 19, 2017 10:04
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May 19, 2017 10:05
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Breath Ray posted:It's a smart policy and an improvement on the current one. Isn't the prospect of spending money on quality end of life care one of the reasons ppl work and save into pensions anyway?
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May 19, 2017 10:13
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and people don't believe me when I say that the wonderful land of keep-your-government-hands-off-my-medicare tax revolt is where we're headed, twenty years down the road we used to think: the future is James and Hilda crawling into a paper bag to die. now the future is James and Hilda handing over their life savings to fund campaigns to abolish their pension, their postal service, their fire department, and their roads, in the abject terror that a Polish person somewhere might undeservingly benefit ronya fucked around with this message at 10:22 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 10:15
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ronya posted:and people don't believe me when I say that the wonderful land of keep-your-government-hands-off-my-medicare tax revolt is where we're headed, twenty years down the road I think it's plausible that we're heading down that road, but I don't think it's an inevitability thanks to the fact the opposition parties are not complete wastes like the Democrats are. I wonder what they're up to right now? Oh look, unironic appeals to "Radical Centrism"! This is definitely a winning tactic that will not fall flat on its face!"
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May 19, 2017 10:24
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jBrereton posted:It's an intensely bad policy that will lead to the price of housing skyrocketing in the next fifteen years as a generation and a half of old people with all the assets in this country die and pass them onto care firms that will own all the cards and be extremely hard to extricate from their housing stock once this measure is taken. Frankly I think it's immoral for old ppl to stay in too big houses. Then they fall down the stairs and thereafter require 24hr care. Then their 60yo heirs can't inherit more than 100k? Boo hoo itpo.
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May 19, 2017 10:24
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ronya posted:and people don't believe me when I say that the wonderful land of keep-your-government-hands-off-my-medicare tax revolt is where we're headed, twenty years down the road
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May 19, 2017 10:25
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Breath Ray posted:Frankly I think it's immoral for old ppl to stay in too big houses. Then they fall down the stairs and thereafter require 24hr care. Then their 60yo heirs can't inherit more than 100k? Boo hoo itpo. Those care firms also know the government would find it nearly impossible to prise them away from the housing market once they've got their claws in without either paying them nothing and looking like the Venezeulan government or whatever other collectivist semi-pariah you choose, or paying more or less infinity £££s and becoming the biggest landlords in Britain.
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May 19, 2017 10:33
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Corbyn should campaign on nationalizing the press
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May 19, 2017 10:34
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So about this elder care thing, after the person passes away, the estate is liquidised and the costs for care are recouped and the ring fenced 100k gets paid out to the heirs. But who are the executors of this? People are saying that the homes will be in the hands of the private care firms, but surely the property will just be sold and the care firm takes its cut and the rest goes to the heirs? I don't understand where people are getting this idea that all the housing stock will soon be owned by private care firms
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May 19, 2017 10:38
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fridge corn posted:So about this elder care thing, after the person passes away, the estate is liquidised and the costs for care are recouped and the ring fenced 100k gets paid out to the heirs. But who are the executors of this? People are saying that the homes will be in the hands of the private care firms, but surely the property will just be sold and the care firm takes its cut and the rest goes to the heirs? I don't understand where people are getting this idea that all the housing stock will soon be owned by private care firms Then they'll be sold cheaply to landlords who can buy it instead. It's definitely not going to be turned into a cheap starter home, is it?
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May 19, 2017 10:39
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Me neither. If it's a deferred payment surely it's up to the estate to pay it out of any assets left? And how does his work for elderly couples when one goes into care leaving another in a shared home? Is there double the allowance? Is it deferred until they both die?
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May 19, 2017 10:39
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jBrereton posted:I loving guarantee you what you will see is more or less a divorce battle between inheritors and care firms from the moment that care is needed, that will absolutely poison the discourse around care, drive up the price of housing, and immiserate everyone but lawyers and care firm owners who will be making gigantic profits from the people too tired to fight back. The care firms will just rent out the properties to professional landlord firms who will provide tenants with modern fit for purpose housing at competitive prices. Or the heirs pay each other off and one holds on to the place Breath Ray fucked around with this message at 10:43 on May 19, 2017 |
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May 19, 2017 10:40
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Breath Ray posted:The care firms / heirs will just rent out the properties to professional landlord firms who will provide tenants with modern fit for purpose housing at competitive prices. What a hoot
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May 19, 2017 10:42
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Miftan posted:Then they'll be sold cheaply to landlords who can buy it instead. It's definitely not going to be turned into a cheap starter home, is it? Sold cheaply by who? Do the properties go up on auction, or do the executors (the heirs maybe) list it with an estate agent and attempt to get best possible price? That seems much more likely. People seem to be getting hysterical about this policy without having any clue how is going to work in practicality
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May 19, 2017 10:43
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fridge corn posted:Sold cheaply by who? Do the properties go up on auction, or do the executors (the heirs maybe) list it with an estate agent and attempt to get best possible price? That seems much more likely. People seem to be getting hysterical about this policy without having any clue how is going to work in practicality Well, considering it's part of the Strong And Stable Theresa May Party manifesto I think assuming the worst possible option is the most likely one is fairly safe.
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May 19, 2017 10:48
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forkboy84 posted:Well, considering it's part of the Strong And Stable Theresa May Party manifesto I think assuming the worst possible option is the most likely one is fairly safe. This is probably true. Also, it's a lovely solution to the problem anyway so why even entertain it? Have an actual inheritance tax and put more money into care, there, we've solved the problem without forcing people to sell off their house!
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May 19, 2017 10:51
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fridge corn posted:People seem to be getting hysterical about this policy without having any clue how is going to work in practicality The precise mechanism doesn't matter if the concept is bad in the first place. And I don't think much thought has gone into the precise mechanism anyway.
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May 19, 2017 10:53
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Miftan posted:Have an actual inheritance tax... without forcing people to sell off their house!
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May 19, 2017 10:54
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Houses are a good place to levy inheritance tax because you can't take them offshore.
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May 19, 2017 10:55
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What happens if the worth of the estate is not enough to cover the cost of care plus the £100k? Is the care firm forced to take a loss in that case?
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May 19, 2017 10:56
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fridge corn posted:What happens if the worth of the estate is not enough to cover the cost of care plus the £100k? Is the care firm forced to take a loss in that case?
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May 19, 2017 10:58
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It's not super difficult to understand. People would rather back the winning team. Even though a vote for the Tories is a vote for an unlubricated butt loving, if you choose it by voting for it (try not to think about how you're only voting for it because you feel like there's no choice...) then you have maintained agency in your life, and confirmed that your personal individual choice still matters. Everything is falling the gently caress apart, but at least you didn't throw your vote away on a lost cause!
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May 19, 2017 10:58
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LemonDrizzle posted:That is more or less what we have today. It doesn't raise very much money at all. 40% over 300k is not a proper inheritance tax.
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May 19, 2017 10:59
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Miftan posted:40% over 300k is not a proper inheritance tax. What about 100% over 100k
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Miftan posted:40% over 300k is not a proper inheritance tax.
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