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Iris gets Barry a puppy as a death present so he can learn to love again and move on, but then a Bratva member (played by Theon Greyjoy) kills the puppy and, after learning they're actually from the Earth 2 Bratva, Barry decides to murder the whole organization.
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But where's Black Flash to destroy the time bandit Barry Allen? Thawne just wanted to live and Barry is committing genocide.
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May 19, 2017 18:07
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I'm a little disappointed Black Lightning isn't overtly part of the Arrow-verse but realistically that doesn't really mean a lot. As people said, Supergirl wasn't originally either. Either they keep it vague enough that they can reveal down the line its Earth 1 (or Supergirl's, I guess) or they can make it another Earth. I just kind of liked the idea of Black Lightning being an East Coast hero so being separated from Arrow by an entire country and maybe drawing Vixen in. But ah well. Better its left to find its own footing, I guess. Apparently Central City is in Missouri? I would not have guessed that.
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May 19, 2017 18:28
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Black Flash had been busy with Thawne this season. It's a time... thing.
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May 19, 2017 18:31
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STAC Goat posted:Apparently Central City is in Missouri? I would not have guessed that. I think in the comics it had a sort of Kansas City, Kansas / Kansas City, Missouri with Keystone City where they were each on either side of a river.
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May 19, 2017 19:08
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Central City is clearly KCMO
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May 19, 2017 19:09
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I guess I kind of assumed it was West Coast like Star City, but now that I think of that I realize it was probably silly of me to assume the two cities were close just because Barry can run between the two of them and characters sometimes take a train back and forth.
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May 19, 2017 19:13
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Makes sense since Kansas City is where the weirdos live.
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May 19, 2017 19:15
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STAC Goat posted:I'm a little disappointed Black Lightning isn't overtly part of the Arrow-verse but realistically that doesn't really mean a lot. As people said, Supergirl wasn't originally either. Either they keep it vague enough that they can reveal down the line its Earth 1 (or Supergirl's, I guess) or they can make it another Earth. I just kind of liked the idea of Black Lightning being an East Coast hero so being separated from Arrow by an entire country and maybe drawing Vixen in. But ah well. Better its left to find its own footing, I guess. Black Lightning's original stomping grounds was the Southside of metropolis a.k.a. Suicide Slum (based off of the Lower East Side). It could totally take place in the Supergirl universe with Pierce being extra angry at Superman.
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May 19, 2017 19:48
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Ojjeorago posted:Iris gets Barry a puppy as a death present so he can learn to love again and move on, but then a Bratva member (played by Theon Greyjoy) kills the puppy and, after learning they're actually from the Earth 2 Bratva, Barry decides to murder the whole
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May 19, 2017 20:53
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:Iris gets Barry counseling as a Death Present. Barry learns to heal and move on, while still remembering the good times he had with Iris. He still has rough days, but he grows as a person. Add in Iris popping back into existence at the same time Savitar winks out and I think this has a legitimate shot at being how things end.
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Xelkelvos posted:Black Lightning's original stomping grounds was the Southside of metropolis a.k.a. Suicide Slum (based off of the Lower East Side). It could totally take place in the Supergirl universe with Pierce being extra angry at Superman. Yeah, I think it could work either way. Black Lightning could be from Earth 19 where Supergirl has made it seem like there's more heroes and comic book world outside National City and he could be part of that. Or he could be an urban legend in an Earth 1 city far away from Star City so it all flew under the radar until it doesn't. They could probably make either work if they wanted to and don't do anything to overtly say "there's no other heroes" or something. But I get the idea of not giving it any baggage and just letting it tell its own story to start with. They can "retcon" stuff in later if they want to.
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A big reason they're not tying it to the CWverse right away is that Black Lightning shoots in Atlanta, while the other four shows shoot in Vancouver, so logistically crossing over with the other shows is difficult just based on location. It's the same problem Supergirl faced when it was down in Los Angeles before the show moved to up to Vancouver.
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howe_sam posted:Add in Iris popping back into existence at the same time Savitar winks out and I think this has a legitimate shot at being how things end. I'll be shocked if this doesn't end with Savitar making the conscious decision to sacrifice his existence to save Iris. At the end of the day, he's still a Barry, and our hero has to redeem himself.
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May 19, 2017 21:58
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IIRC, Black Lightning's pilot basically sets it in Compton/Watts.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I think it could work either way. Black Lightning could be from Earth 19 where Supergirl has made it seem like there's more heroes and comic book world outside National City and he could be part of that. Supergirl is on Earth 38. HR and Gypsy are from Earth 19 
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May 19, 2017 23:38
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Lyla really had a change of heart regarding the Dominator technology in that episode.
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Q_res posted:I'll be shocked if this doesn't end with Savitar making the conscious decision to sacrifice his existence to save Iris. At the end of the day, he's still a Barry, and our hero has to redeem himself. That's my going theory now too. There's still a few scenes from that season-ending sizzle reel they posted the other week that we haven't seen yet on the show itself and one of them was Savitar and Iris together and he looks like he's really broken up by seeing her. One way or another, the finale's gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out now.
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The only reason Barry saved Snart is because it would have hosed time up even more to have him die then instead of later on. Barry is no hero.
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May 20, 2017 16:17
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Are we not gonna talk about how the legends never went to Siberia in 1892?
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bentacos posted:Are we not gonna talk about how the legends never went to Siberia in 1892? Maybe the TV show isn't a complete documentary of everything anyone has ever done.
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May 20, 2017 16:37
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I think at this point, I'd rather have a season where we follow around snart. Sure no scenery would be safe, but he felt more heroic then barry in the last episode.
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bentacos posted:Are we not gonna talk about how the legends never went to Siberia in 1892? Also, sometimes it takes a lot of hard work and planning and help from other speedsters for Barry to time travel properly... And sometimes he just waltzes a century into the past and to the other side of the globe on a whim. shades of eternity posted:I think at this point, I'd rather have a season where we follow around snart. Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 16:53 on May 20, 2017 |
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May 20, 2017 16:48
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I feel people are way too hard on that last episode. It was a good set up for the finale.
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May 20, 2017 17:51
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Robot Hobo posted:I am 100% willing to go along with any excuse to get more Smart on any show. I don't think Legends of Tomorrow is in any danger of this happening.
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Robot Hobo posted:I'm willing to believe they did that offscreen between episodes... But how did Barry know exactly when and where to find them, especially to find Snart all alone and handily far enough along in his good-guy character development? It's almost as if, and I want to follow me closely here, but like the writing is really, really bad
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Robot Hobo posted:But how did Barry know exactly when and where to find them My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest stalker alive.
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May 20, 2017 19:14
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I'd like to think, given that Snart said the "no strings on me" line he had said right before he died, despite the fact that he shouldn't have had any reason to say it at that point, if it was before he died, that might be a hint that they are bringing him back somehow. Or it could just be weird/bad writing.
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May 20, 2017 19:14
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Yeah, using his final words again was lovely writing. Lot S1 was bad but Cold went out like a loving champ.
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Snart's development into an honest to god hero was the singular best part of Season 1 Legends.
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nine-gear crow posted:Snart's development into an honest to god hero was the singular best part of Season 1 Legends. Agreed. He's just so good at comic book hamming.
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I really liked Mick's visit with him. Really, that stuff was about the only solid part of S1. I just started a watch of S2 - I know it's great, but I'm gonna miss Leonard.
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I think Legends S1 did some solid stuff with Sara's guilt and acceptance that she's worthy of being a hero too. But that also involved Snart, so yeah, Snart's largely the saving grace of S1. Mooseontheloose posted:I feel people are way too hard on that last episode. It was a good set up for the finale. I thought it was fine by the pulpy comic standards I judge this show on, but this thread kind of hates the show and the episode did a lot of what they hate... so what you gonna do?
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I like Snart as a hero but it's still a wee bit disappointing that it makes him tough to use as a villain again; it's fun that Barry has one enemy who sort of respects him for some reason ( ) and has a code that stops Barry from killing him like he does everyone else with the misfortune to cross his path.I think this and the last season of Flash have suffered for not having him and Rory as reliable recurring bad guys.
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STAC Goat posted:
Fair. I really don't get the hate for the show.
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I generally "get" it. I don't agree with all of it but I usually see where people are coming from. Although in these threads people tend to get carried away eventually.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Fair. I really don't get the hate for the show. The plots have holes you could drive a truck through and they keep doing the same mopey tragic romance and keeping secrets beats over and over, but never well.
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metztli posted:Snart said the "no strings on me"line, despite the fact that he shouldn't have had any reason to say it at that point So they did have a reason for him to say the line, it was just really pointless and shoehorned in so badly that it was even dumber than just having him say it totally unprompted. And Snart is so awesome, he still almost made that line work. Not gonna lie, I think I may have a bit of a crush on Captain Cold.  Phylodox posted:I don't think Legends of Tomorrow is in any danger of this happening. 
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May 20, 2017 22:59
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I'm not embarrassed to admit it. I love him so much I'm considering watching Prison Break.
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STAC Goat posted:I'm not embarrassed to admit it. I love him so much I'm considering watching Prison Break. I walked down that path. I couldn't watch season 2.
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