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Drone posted:Shame Home Soil is pretty forgettable except for one thing. Mods, can we get the thread title changed to: quote:Star Trek: UGLY BAGS OF MOSTLY WATER
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King Hong Kong posted:The soundtrack is one of the things I hate most about JJ Trek whereas I've watched TMP just for the soundtrack. Like almost everything else about those films, the best part of the scores are the bits that sound like they're riffing on stuff from the original movies. The best parts of Beyond's soundtrack where the parts that sounded like James Horner, the actual JJTrek theme sounds like something Danny Elfman banged out in 1993 for another Keaton-Batman sequel that never got made
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May 19, 2017 21:48
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gently caress you all, London Calling from Into Darkness is amazing.
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May 19, 2017 22:00
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Timby posted:gently caress you all, London Calling from Into Darkness is amazing. 
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May 19, 2017 22:02
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Things from a terrible, bad, bad, terrible, really really not good movie can be good. That's one of them.
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May 19, 2017 22:16
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Zesty posted:I didn't care to play Star Trek Online at all, but I think they really nailed the music for a Star Trek video game. I appreciate they did their own thing and didn't ape other themes other than the opener here. I love the opening theme for STO. It's Star Trek through and through. You're right, the music in general in the game is incredibly good.
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May 19, 2017 22:29
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Comrade Fakename posted:Haven't we been over this? STO is its own thing outside the films or TV. But because of CBS/Paramount's stupid legal separation the TV shows can't reference anything in the films (of course the films can reference the TV shows because the entire franchise is a reference to a TV show). I was under the impression that this was explicitly given as the reason the new show isn't set in the Kelvin timeline. It is its own thing, but they still have to negotiate for rights to reference things. They started off with the CBS TV rights (minus TAS, probably), and negotiated with Paramount for movie references. Which is what I'm saying... it's entirely possible for CBS to negotiate with Paramount for references. They've done it in the past to use the costumes from the movies, it's not outside of the realm of possibility for them to get the rights to reference the destruction of Romulus. They both work together as it stands for rights for the comics, too.
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May 19, 2017 22:33
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Kazinsal posted:I love the opening theme for STO. It's Star Trek through and through. It's weird how the games often get this right and fail at just about everything else. Star Trek Legacy also had a pretty great soundtrack. Maybe the best part of that game, actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikKUofk-C0c
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May 19, 2017 23:29
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I really like Devil's Due. I think I like it even more in the face of the new Discovery trailer. The right blend of moralizing without being too heavy handed in it (though Devil's Due in particular toes that line a bit much,) good Data stuff, Picard gets one of his all too rare Kirk moments (the trial) and the solution to that weeks problem is clever without being tied to the Prime Directive or some bullshit logical leap. It's the quintessential non-important Trek episode; fun time, good sci-fi, good fable, just an enjoyable forty five minutes that leave you feeling good for the rest of the night.
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May 19, 2017 23:42
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The thing that bugs me about the games (and, often, the merchandise) is how often they screw up iconic imagery that should be simple to reproduce. Transporter effects, for instance, seldom look like any iteration of the show, even in games that (a) prerender everything anyway or (b) have the processing power to render the effects live. Or you get a comm badge toy, and pressing it makes a sound that is nothing like the familiar chirp. This isn't trying to get a performance out of Patrick Stewart that doesn't sound like they put him in a sound booth with a list of lines and asked him to just read it through once, even though that's what they did. This is straight up 'put the WAV file in the microchip'. And 'don't cheap out on the license', I guess.
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May 19, 2017 23:44
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Orv posted:I really like Devil's Due. I think I like it even more in the face of the new Discovery trailer. The right blend of moralizing without being too heavy handed in it (though Devil's Due in particular toes that line a bit much,) good Data stuff, Picard gets one of his all too rare Kirk moments (the trial) and the solution to that weeks problem is clever without being tied to the Prime Directive or some bullshit logical leap. Um, I think you'll find that is, in fact, bad, because it features Fek'lhr, guardian of Gre'thor, land of the dishonored dead, despite Day of the Dove explicitly stating that Klingons have no "devil".  TNG Season Four 
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May 20, 2017 01:23
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Timby posted:gently caress you all, London Calling from Into Darkness is amazing. London Calling really reminds me of another track I heard recently (or vice versa, honestly). FredMSloniker posted:Or you get a comm badge toy, and pressing it makes a sound that is nothing like the familiar chirp. Oh, and there's a red light on it for no reason (I assume you're talking about the Playmates TNG communicator). 
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May 20, 2017 01:38
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Comrade Fakename posted:Haven't we been over this? STO is its own thing outside the films or TV. But because of CBS/Paramount's stupid legal separation the TV shows can't reference anything in the films (of course the films can reference the TV shows because the entire franchise is a reference to a TV show). I was under the impression that this was explicitly given as the reason the new show isn't set in the Kelvin timeline. They've got special permission now for some elements, but back in the day STO operated under the same rules as all Prime Universe spinoff media. And they were able to reference the Romulan supernova and Romulans having pointy needle ships specifically because those elements came out of the Star Trek: Countdown comic, the crossover prequel comic before Trek 09 that was set in the prime universe. My point is, it's weird and complicated, so who knows. But for a full-on TV series, I expect CBS and Paramount would sort out a deal anyway. They both want the franchise to succeed.
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May 20, 2017 01:42
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The_Doctor posted:London Calling really reminds me of another track I heard recently (or vice versa, honestly). I had one of those. It was half the size of the shuttle toy.
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May 20, 2017 03:55
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Kazinsal posted:I love the opening theme for STO. It's Star Trek through and through. Unironic STO players are the loving worst. All the music in that game is generic space adventure fare because they don't have the rights for anything iconic or the money for actually good videogame composers like Inon Zur or Marty O'Donnell who can do something truly original. The stuff that plays when you first visit DS9 in the story is trying so hard to be as grand and uplifting as the real DS9 theme it's a bad joke. That whole game is like off-brand Star Trek muzak.
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May 20, 2017 04:11
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McSpanky posted:they don't have the rights for anything iconic I definitely heard the Kirk vs. Spock fight music from "Amok Time" in one of the missions.
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May 20, 2017 04:36
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McSpanky posted:Unironic STO players are the loving worst. All the music in that game is generic space adventure fare because they don't have the rights for anything iconic or the money for actually good videogame composers like Inon Zur or Marty O'Donnell who can do something truly original. The stuff that plays when you first visit DS9 in the story is trying so hard to be as grand and uplifting as the real DS9 theme it's a bad joke. That whole game is like off-brand Star Trek muzak. You play a MMO and don't turn off all its music?
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Watching Coming of Age and I don't think it explains why the boy steals the shuttle or why he can't fly it if he's "highly trained in shuttlecraft."
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching Coming of Age and I don't think it explains why the boy steals the shuttle or why he can't fly it if he's "highly trained in shuttlecraft." It's a season one B plot, the answer starts with b and ends with ad episode.
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May 20, 2017 05:25
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Did anyone buy the TNG PS4 theme? Did they lift the music from Warhawk from PS3?
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May 20, 2017 06:43
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Tunicate posted:You play a MMO and don't turn off all its music? Of course, but it's the subject at hand. And some TOS tracks snuck in with the TOS-themed expansion last year, though that was about six years too late and a teeny tiny part of the whole game anyway. Anyone who claims STO is anywhere near the level of even a mediocre Voyager episode is selling you a bill of goods.
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If there are any gif artists lurking about, could an avatar-sized gif of Gowron turning and grinning at Duras during Reunion get made? Zoom on his head after the turn optional, I don't really know what's involved in making that look good.
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May 20, 2017 07:00
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching Coming of Age and I don't think it explains why the boy steals the shuttle or why he can't fly it if he's "highly trained in shuttlecraft." Because teenager. He didn't make it into Starfleet Academy, so he kind of flipped out and stole a shuttle. He had a vague plan of signing on with a pirate freighter, or something like that. And even though he'd made it through 24th-century Driver Ed, he still managed to do something stupid and almost crash within the first two minutes. Translate it to real life and it's still plausible: distraught over some rejection or other, a teenager takes his Dad's car with a vague plan to drive to Alaska and sign on with a lobstering boat, but he crashes it before he's made it three miles.
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May 20, 2017 07:29
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Not getting the love for STO's story. It's the worst excesses of terrible fanfic and does little but rehash storylines from old episodes. Only thing it's missing is the shipping of characters for the true lovely fanfic experience.
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What's the Trek book to read if you just finally finished watching DS9 and are mostly left with a sense of JAKE DESERVES BETTER Sisko didn't even say anything to him what the dang hell Space Hamlet fucked around with this message at 13:48 on May 20, 2017 |
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May 20, 2017 13:44
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Space Hamlet posted:What's the Trek book to read if you just finally finished watching DS9 and are mostly left with a sense of JAKE DESERVES BETTER Er, novel or non-fiction? The pick-up point from What You Leave Behind, novel-wise, would be a book called Avatar, which is the two-parter "relaunch" series starter.
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Drone posted:Er, novel or non-fiction? Yeah fiction, I need the scoop on Sisko's return to wash that taste out. Thanks, I'll look that one up
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May 20, 2017 14:16
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The_Doctor posted:London Calling really reminds me of another track I heard recently (or vice versa, honestly). "Dermal Sensor Touchpad", or, as it's sometimes known, "a button"
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May 20, 2017 15:51
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Orv posted:I really like Devil's Due. I think I like it even more in the face of the new Discovery trailer. The right blend of moralizing without being too heavy handed in it (though Devil's Due in particular toes that line a bit much,) good Data stuff, Picard gets one of his all too rare Kirk moments (the trial) and the solution to that weeks problem is clever without being tied to the Prime Directive or some bullshit logical leap. It was also one of the two recycled Phase II scripts! (The other one was Season 2's The Child.) But yeah, it's a fun episode. I like it too.
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May 20, 2017 17:14
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Space Hamlet posted:Yeah fiction, I need the scoop on Sisko's return to wash that taste out. Thanks, I'll look that one up The best of the post-show bunch is A Stitch In Time, if you like Garak, and if you don't like Garak I don't even want to know you.
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May 20, 2017 18:23
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Mukaikubo posted:The best of the post-show bunch is A Stitch In Time, if you like Garak, and if you don't like Garak I don't even want to know you. Yeah. Garak's backstory would have been something really easy to gently caress up but Robinson actually writes a pretty compelling novel while answering basically every question about Garak's past.
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Mukaikubo posted:The best of the post-show bunch is A Stitch In Time, if you like Garak, and if you don't like Garak I don't even want to know you. Interestingly, the novel is written by the guy who played Garak: "Robinson recalled the process which lead to the writing of the novel: " I started writing about Garak because, coming to the Star Trek franchise and being cast as an alien, a Cardassian, I had no idea what that was. I barely know about Human beings. But then suddenly to be cast as an alien... it was a challenge. So I decided to write about the character and create the world of the character and I did this in the form of a diary that Garak kept: every day he would write about his experiences and so forth. And then I started going to conventions, like this one, and I started reading from the diary and the fans, the audiences loved it. So I started writing more, and I started crafting it more and, like a lot of people, I've always wanted to write a novel! That's when I started working into a novel. Then the people at Simon and Schuster, the publisher, agreed to let me do it, and it was a bit of a big deal because I was the first actor to write a novel without what they call a ghost writer, or with someone else writing it for me. Because I wanted to write it by myself, I didn't want anybody else writing it."
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In the ST post-DS9 novels, Garak is currently the head of the Cardassian Union
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FlamingLiberal posted:In the ST post-DS9 novels, Garak is currently the head of the Cardassian Union Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
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FlamingLiberal posted:In the ST post-DS9 novels, Garak is currently the head of the Cardassian Union You mean shadow ruler, surely.
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May 20, 2017 19:43
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Arglebargle III posted:You mean shadow ruler, surely. That would be Elim.
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May 20, 2017 19:45
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FlamingLiberal posted:In the ST post-DS9 novels, Garak is currently the head of the Cardassian Union To be honest that makes me really mad. His novel makes a point to talk about how his legacy is toxic and the best thing for everyone is him living out the rest of his life in obscurity.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:To be honest that makes me really mad. His novel makes a point to talk about how his legacy is toxic and the best thing for everyone is him living out the rest of his life in obscurity.
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May 20, 2017 20:21
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McSpanky posted:Of course, but it's the subject at hand. And some TOS tracks snuck in with the TOS-themed expansion last year, though that was about six years too late and a teeny tiny part of the whole game anyway. Anyone who claims STO is anywhere near the level of even a mediocre Voyager episode is selling you a bill of goods. Hey at least if people are trying to encourage you to play a Star Trek MMO it's probably not because you yourself are an in-game commodity.
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Catching up: Discovery trailer looks okay - I'm just not the type to care much about uniforms, bridge design, or whatever as long as it doesn't look ridiculous - but nothing to get really excited about either. You should watch all the Stargates but I think I'm the one guy who liked Universe. Music chat: I will agree that the Voyager theme is probably going to be the best of past and future Treks. Even without the visuals you can feel the exploration happening. DS9's theme is great too, feels like something that would play during some grand reveal of a really important piece of work, but it never really felt connected to the show like Voyager's did. The best Star Trek novel is "How Much For Just the Planet?" because there are random musical numbers and it ends with (some of) the Enterprise crew getting into a pie throwing fight with Klingons.
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