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GunnerJ posted:
This is reasonable, colonial nations spawn when you have five completed colonies in a colonial region.
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 Proposing Don't Wait - Vassalate Use every effort to make vassals of every small power on the Iberian peninsula.
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May 19, 2017 21:37
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Would it be possible to engineer a personal union with Palermo?
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May 19, 2017 21:38
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catlord posted:
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May 19, 2017 21:41
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 Well, my plan of accepting Portuguese and having other conquered cultures converted to Portuguese isn't going to go anywhere if we can't A) convert provinces and B) annex non-Portuguese territory, so I propose the Advanced Statecraft Act. All Administrative Power must be aimed at bringing our Administrative Tech to the highest level (that is, until we start getting ahead-of-time penalties) before it can be used on anything else.
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May 19, 2017 21:44
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Would it be possible to engineer a personal union with Palermo? Impossible, Muslims can't have PUs in EU4.
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May 19, 2017 21:44
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May 19, 2017 21:46
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I propose continued military research and maintenance, since it worked out well last time.
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TildeATH posted:
Just so you know, this would technically only apply to Galicia, because Leon is under a Castilian PU, and we're allied with Aragon. If anyone wants to vassalize Leon, then we'd have to attack Castille and their allies. If anyone wants to vassalize Aragon, then we'd need a separate policy demanding both that we break the alliance with Aragon and attack them.
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May 19, 2017 21:49
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Hashim posted:Just so you know, this would technically only apply to Galicia, because Leon is under a Castilian PU, and we're allied with Aragon. If anyone wants to vassalize Aragon, then we'd need a separate policy demanding that the alliance be broken, and Aragon invaded. But if during the course of human events we no longer have an alliance with Aragon or Leon falls into the open, then we're free to snatch them, so I think this is the best policy.
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May 19, 2017 21:51
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GunnerJ posted:
 I support this act! This will go a long way in financing our inevitable wars with the Christians.
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May 19, 2017 21:55
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GunnerJ posted:
I support this, controlling the Caribbean is a great way to make the most of the New World given our location. Although once we create a colonial nation in Cuba, our next priority should be colonizing along the Ivory Coast.
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May 19, 2017 22:06
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TildeATH posted:
By small power do you mean Galicia and Aragon? Might be better to make that clear.
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May 19, 2017 22:09
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Frionnel posted:By small power do you mean Galicia and Aragon? Might be better to make that clear. Hash already weighed in, basically it's only Galicia now, Aragon if they break alliance with us and Leon if they fall out of Castille's orbit. So basically it's just Vassalize Galicia and maybe get some more if the situation allows, which seems fine to me. I could also see the wisdom of supporting the MilTech proposal.
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May 19, 2017 22:20
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catlord posted:
Agreed. The New Taifas are on the rise: once we can wage wars of real conquest, we need to be ready.
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May 19, 2017 22:22
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GunnerJ posted:
I, Ali al-User support this policy
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May 19, 2017 22:22
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GunnerJ posted:
I support this policy.
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May 19, 2017 22:24
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Soup du Jour posted:
Uhhh. What does this do exactly? What are the benefits and costs of pursuing the higher administrative tech level at this moment?
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Edit: poo poo, I forgot that I switched parties. Never mind, please don't send me to the Oubliette! I'll post an actual vote later.
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Snipee posted:Uhhh. What does this do exactly? What are the benefits and costs of pursuing the higher administrative tech level at this moment? Having admin tech as high as possible is generally really good, because it gives you +20% Production Efficiency bonus and -0.05 Corruption. Plus, idea groups. If it falls too far behind military tech, then corruption starts to increase, so you need to spend more money to combat it. This is what our economy looks like right now:  Because there's recently been a focus on bringing military tech up to par, admin and dip techs have fallen behind, so we're paying 3.7 gold to Root Out Corruption. Also, developing that gold mine did give us a boost in income, but inflation is kinda hampering that at the moment. hashashash fucked around with this message at 23:09 on May 19, 2017 |
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Agreed. The New Taifas are on the rise: once we can wage wars of real conquest, we need to be ready. It is a little bit strange to me that the power to make proposals to declare certain types of war is only given to whatever the ruling faction is, so that now the warrior faction can't do it while the faction with no interest in doing it can.
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May 19, 2017 22:49
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GunnerJ posted:It is a little bit strange to me that the power to make proposals to declare certain types of war is only given to whatever the ruling faction is, so that now the warrior faction can't do it while the faction with no interest in doing it can. They can always propose vassalization wars, plus a hawkish Sultan can unilaterally decide to conquer as well.
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GunnerJ posted:It is a little bit strange to me that the power to make proposals to declare certain types of war is only given to whatever the ruling faction is, so that now the warrior faction can't do it while the faction with no interest in doing it can. I mean, think of it more as we can only declare wars on conquest when the Taifas are in power. The only reason I've allowed the Merchants to do it is if they want to capture a province with a centre of trade, for example, or an estuary or something like that. If the Merchants started declaring conquest wars willy-nilly, then I would just ban it altogether unless the Taifas are actually in power.
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May 19, 2017 22:53
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Soup du Jour posted:
I stand behind this. The Ulema have always been the weakest political faction, perhaps if we research Statecraft we can advance our interests more easily.
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May 19, 2017 23:02
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Soup du Jour posted:
I, Snipee of the Ulama, support this proposal.
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May 19, 2017 23:13
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I, Chatrapati of the Ulema, propose we send Christians who are known to be disruptive, such as the Leónese, to those overseas rocks the merchants are so interested in. Paving the way for local populations to be filled with pious Muslims.
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May 19, 2017 23:15
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 I, Ralepozozaxe, the Dalai Ullama, propose the Toleading from the Front Act. We move our capital to Toledo and increase it's development to 30. We must show the other Iberians that we are not a southern Iberian nation, but the central and most prominent Iberian nation. By moving our capital to the center, we show them that we will not be backing down. Plus, the previous sultan made it oh so nice and pretty.
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May 19, 2017 23:20
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Soup du Jour posted:
I endorse this proposal.
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May 19, 2017 23:21
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catlord posted:
The al-Boys support this course.
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May 19, 2017 23:21
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WilliamAnderson posted:
I support policies that bring in more of my little shiny friends. I talk to my coins but they do not talk back. 
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May 19, 2017 23:23
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I propose Fiscal Acceptance and Responsible Toleration which mandates that we extend limited privileges and toleration to christians who contribute to the realm, preferably financially.
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May 19, 2017 23:23
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Ralepozozaxe posted:
The llama knows all, the llama is smart. The llama gets my vote
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Policies so far:TildeATH posted:Proposing Don't Wait - Vassalate Use every effort to make vassals of every small power on the Iberian peninsula. TildeATH, Rodyle. catlord posted:I propose continued military research and maintenance, since it worked out well last time. catlord, RZApublican, Lord Cyrahzax, ShootaBoy. Soup du Jour posted:I propose the Advanced Statecraft Act. All Administrative Power must be aimed at bringing our Administrative Tech to the highest level (that is, until we start getting ahead-of-time penalties) before it can be used on anything else. Soup du Jour, Duey, Snipee, Mountaineer. Ralepozozaxe posted:I, Ralepozozaxe, the Dalai Ullama, propose the Toleading from the Front Act. We move our capital to Toledo and increase it's development to 30. We must show the other Iberians that we are not a southern Iberian nation, but the central and most prominent Iberian nation. By moving our capital to the center, we show them that we will not be backing down. Plus, the previous sultan made it oh so nice and pretty. Ralepozozaxe, Slaan. GunnerJ posted:Proposing the Caribbean D.R.E.A.M. Act - Focus on nabbing territory in the Caribbean with an initial goal of establishing at least one self-sufficient colony* there. GunnerJ, Talas, Bot 02, Tendronai, HailedUser, Yvonmukluk. WilliamAnderson posted:I propose that we Build Workshops in all provinces that will earn us 0.15 or more ducats per month. WilliamAnderson, Dick Trauma. Archaeology Hat posted:I propose Fiscal Acceptance and Responsible Toleration which mandates that we extend limited privileges and toleration to christians who contribute to the realm, preferably financially. Archaeology Hat
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Chatrapati posted:I, Chatrapati of the Ulema, propose we send Christians who are known to be disruptive, such as the Leónese, to those overseas rocks the merchants are so interested in. Paving the way for local populations to be filled with pious Muslims. I'm not too sure what this means, is it culture converting? We can't culture convert unless the province is already Sunni, and we can't convert it to Sunni whilst the Ulema are the smallest faction, so that's not possible yet.
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TildeATH posted:Hash already weighed in, basically it's only Galicia now, Aragon if they break alliance with us and Leon if they fall out of Castille's orbit. Well, we could also try to diplo-vassalize Aragon, get those relations up and ask nicely. Thought you meant that by "every effort". Anyway, i'll go ahead and support the Don't Wait - Vassalate act since Galicia having no allies is too good to let pass.
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Hashim posted:I'm not too sure what this means, is it culture converting? We can't culture convert unless the province is already Sunni, and we can't convert it to Sunni whilst the Ulema are the smallest faction, so that's not possible yet. No, I meant that we should move Leónese populations out of Al-Andalus and into colonies, like England did with its religious minorities. I probably ought to read what is possible in the game before making suggestions.
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May 20, 2017 00:16
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I propose the al-Helladid was a Populist Act. These rebellions threaten us during times of war. Filthy opportunists bite at our heels while the infidel marches to our gates. We must stamp out rebellious tendencies in the disloyal provinces by any means necessary.
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Not participating, so just a question: Should the Sultan target the big islands (Cuba, Hispanola), or the little islands in the Lesser Antilles? There are some fantastic provinces in the Caribbean, so this is a good area to look into.
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Patter Song posted:Not participating, so just a question: Should the Sultan target the big islands (Cuba, Hispanola), or the little islands in the Lesser Antilles? There are some fantastic provinces in the Caribbean, so this is a good area to look into. I'm partial to either, though I think the Lesser Antilles could be a lot of fun. Second to that, Cuba.
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