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Kwyndig posted:There's got to be somebody out there who plays both and has like, the most poo poo tastes in both board games and RPGs and I shudder to think what their shelf has to look like. Please do not doxx me.
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so what is the boardgame equivalent of only plays Pathfinder Core?
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May 22, 2017 00:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:so what is the boardgame equivalent of only plays Pathfinder Core? people who only play Settlers of Catan
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May 22, 2017 00:28
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gradenko_2000 posted:so what is the boardgame equivalent of only plays Pathfinder Core? people who only play munchkin and zombie games
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May 22, 2017 00:34
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Countblanc posted:people who only play munchkin and zombie games That sounds about right, they're games that can be fun but really overstay their welcome easily.
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May 22, 2017 00:46
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Countblanc posted:Well I specifically meant here. Most people I know who play one irl play the other, though there's definitely a trend where the ones who plays a lot of RPGs plays poo poo board games and the ones deep in board games only know about 3.5e. Most people have poo poo tastes in board games, and most people have poo poo tastes in RPG systems, so finding good taste in both coinciding inside one single person, even though it seems like there should be some correlation, is much rarer than you'd expect.
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May 22, 2017 00:47
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i only play the realest boardgame known to man, Stratego
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May 22, 2017 00:55
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Alaois posted:i only play the realest boardgame known to man, Stratego I think you mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3sXhR7Uhf4
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May 22, 2017 01:26
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Countblanc posted:people who only play munchkin and zombie games Also people who have every Cards Against Humanity expansion quote:White Cards
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May 22, 2017 01:32
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Kwyndig posted:That sounds about right, they're games that can be fun but really overstay their welcome easily.
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May 22, 2017 01:57
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"Strategy" and "tactics" are just crutches for those who can't face the truth. Chutes and Ladders simulates that you have no control over your success or failure, or even over your moral choices, and life is a meaningless sea of chaos that which nobody can truly influence. As such, it's the only meaningful board game you ever need to play. But to be fair, Uno and Sorry! are good demonstrations of how other people will crush you without mercy and how society is less like a hive of bees and more like a bucket of crabs. Munchkin, on the other hand, is for babies that need a reward and applause every time they kick down a door and murder a stranger. 
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May 22, 2017 02:26
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Alien Rope Burn posted:"Strategy" and "tactics" are just crutches for those who can't face the truth. Chutes and Ladders simulates that you have no control over your success or failure, or even over your moral choices, and life is a meaningless sea of chaos in which nobody can truly influence. As such, it's the only meaningful board game you ever need to play. But to be fair, Uno and Sorry! are good demonstrations of how other people will crush you without mercy and how society is less like a hive of bees and more like a bucket of crabs.
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May 22, 2017 04:06
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starkebn posted:Worst kind of roleplay story in my opinion I kind of agree tbh. I like hearing stories about people being inventive or fun or finding creative applications of rules/gear/whatever over "this session was only notable because nat 20/1", if only because that seems to be the most common memorable thing anyone ever shares.
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Covok posted:What we need is gritty military sci-fi that is all about the failures of facism and the necessity of socialist, liberal democracy Traveller can easily fit the bill, depending on how you run it. But my impression of Traveller is that it's from the 70s school of pessimistic sci-fi that's critical of capitalism and militarism, but also seems to regard it as inevitable and unstoppable. Also,  Star Wars is military sci-fi about the cycle of liberal democracy breaking down into fascism and rebuilding itself. Covok posted:Except the author was in support of this stuff, IIRC. occamsnailfile posted:Le Guin is, if not specifically leftist, at the least opposed to the idea of American/white/male exceptionalism and centrality, and actively works to promote alternative perspectives in her writing. Those who walk away from Omelas is considered a touchstone of dystopian fiction for simply asking what a perfect society should cost. gradenko_2000 posted:I think an analysis of RPGs through the lens of dialectic materialism would at least be mildly interesting I thought about reviewing Millennium's End which, at first glance, appears to be pure distilled Tom Clancy techno-thriller death cult fiction as RPG. But from what I can tell, the main point of the game is the complicated rules for guns and milwank, with ideology a very distant second.
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You put the can of worms smiley around your uninventive star wars reading and not around your Ed Greenwood dig? That's some courage there man.
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Halloween Jack posted:Heinlein was a very very weird dude and very much a product of 60s liberalism. He was a hippie libertarian, and comes across to me as the sort of 60s male feminist who supports "liberation" because he thinks that means "free love" which means "free sex with a harem of eager babes." A lot like Ed Greenwood, actually. If you want a good picture, Jubal Harshaw is literally Heinlein. Nuns with Guns posted:You put the can of worms smiley around your uninventive star wars reading and not around your Ed Greenwood dig? That's some courage there man. The fact that Ed Greenwood is a weirdo pervert not really disputable.
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May 22, 2017 04:51
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Zurui posted:The fact that Ed Greenwood is a weirdo pervert not really disputable. It depends on whether or not Arivia is reading the thread at the moment
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May 22, 2017 04:52
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Nuns with Guns posted:You put the can of worms smiley around your uninventive star wars reading and not around your Ed Greenwood dig? That's some courage there man.
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Nuns with Guns posted:It depends on whether or not Arivia is reading the thread at the moment Hi. It's worth remembering that over half of Ed's original group, his original test readers and so on, are all women. I won't disagree that Ed is the free love sort, but that actually comes from his social group and was what his audience has repeatedly asked for. He's the exact opposite of the creepy shut in who's never touched a woman - he writes what he does because his audience, particularly women, ask for it. It's also worth remembering that Ed has repeatedly tried to put in more and better representation in his products for years. That stuff was always edited out by TSR/WotC, going back to the first Realms publications in 1987. He has stood up for women in gaming, writing, et cetera. I'm smiling remembering how loving livid he got on Facebook when Gamergate went after the trans character in Baldur's Gate. Ed's not perfect, but creepy pervert is way off the mark.
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May 22, 2017 05:54
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No one called him creepy, he doesn't seem creepy. Just licentious and prone to including that in his games, which is weird.
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May 22, 2017 06:08
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Zurui posted:No one called him creepy, he doesn't seem creepy. Just licentious and prone to including that in his games, which is weird. You called him a weird pervert, dude. I'm explaining how that's not really the case.
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May 22, 2017 06:10
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Change thread title to "Greenwood because it's wet" tia.
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Are we allowed to still consider Ed Greenwood's writing terminally adolescent? I swear to God, that "three D&D wizards travel to Earth and have secret club meetings in my kitchen while I secretly watch from a closet, tee-hee!" series is like half the stuff on fanfiction.net, only a generation too early.
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May 22, 2017 06:40
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Kwyndig posted:There's got to be somebody out there who plays both and has like, the most poo poo tastes in both board games and RPGs and I shudder to think what their shelf has to look like. I've got friends who play both but they also own like, every RPG and Board game so it's hard to tell how their tastes run.
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May 22, 2017 06:48
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Elminster definitely fucks.
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ed greenwood is a creepy sex pervert and i'm glad this line of thought makes arivia mad
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May 22, 2017 07:00
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Countblanc posted:people who only play munchkin and zombie games I would have gone with Cosmic Encounter myself.
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May 22, 2017 07:09
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Elminster's Neg Person
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Kai Tave posted:I would have gone with Cosmic Encounter myself. I was convinced until recently that no one actually played Cosmic Encounter and that it was just a long con troll from our boys at SU&SD, but I actually saw it crop up in the wild at a meet-up a week or so ago.
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occamsnailfile posted:Le Guin is, if not specifically leftist, at the least opposed to the idea of American/white/male exceptionalism and centrality, and actively works to promote alternative perspectives in her writing. Those who walk away from Omelas is considered a touchstone of dystopian fiction for simply asking what a perfect society should cost. Le Guin is kind of famously an anarchist, i.e. anti-authoritarian left. The Dispossessed is about an society that rejects any sort of concept of possessions.
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I think Elminster doesn't gently caress, he's just a buddy with the author of the books and asks him to add scenes where he fucks.
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starkebn posted:Worst kind of roleplay story in my opinion OpenlyEvilJello posted:I rolled three natural ones in a row on the same check in my first extended 3.5e campaign. Antivehicular posted:I swear to God, that "three D&D wizards travel to Earth and have secret club meetings in my kitchen while I secretly watch from a closet, tee-hee!" series is like half the stuff on fanfiction.net.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Yesterday one of my players gave us that coveted moment of excitement you get when you experience something you've only ever heard of by rolling three critical hits in a row. Then turn order moved on to the next player, who made an attack and also rolled a critical hit. My favorite was the RPPR crew's Iron Heroes campaign where the Scythe-wielding Monk character rolled a nat 20 to provoke a critical threat multiple times, but they only confirmed a critical hit once across maybe a dozen episodes. Don't get me wrong, I understand the design behind crit confirmations, but that was really unfortunate for the player because his dreams of landing a big 4x critical hit was like a wet fart.
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May 22, 2017 08:35
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Countblanc posted:I was convinced until recently that no one actually played Cosmic Encounter and that it was just a long con troll from our boys at SU&SD, but I actually saw it crop up in the wild at a meet-up a week or so ago. I kind of feel like it's a harder sell these days since it doesn't really have the party game/cooldown game vibe that things like Munchkin or CAH do, it comes across as more of a "real" boardgame and consequently people are more willing to say they'd rather play something else whereas they may be more willing to go along with Munchkin "just for a few rounds or so" out of politeness.
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rumble in the bunghole posted:I think Elminster doesn't gently caress, he's just a buddy with the author of the books and asks him to add scenes where he fucks.
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Antivehicular posted:Are we allowed to still consider Ed Greenwood's writing terminally adolescent? I swear to God, that "three D&D wizards travel to Earth and have secret club meetings in my kitchen while I secretly watch from a closet, tee-hee!" series is like half the stuff on fanfiction.net, only a generation too early. I'll be sure to tell Dante that while we're at it.
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Arivia posted:I'll be sure to tell Dante that while we're at it. a) Yeah, actually, the bits of Dante that are him writing fanfiction about his tooling around the afterlife with his favorite dead people and seeing people he didn't like burning in Hell are pretty goddamn juvenile; b) There is a certain quality gap between Dante Alighieri and Ed Greenwood that makes one's self-indulgence and juvenile tendencies a forgivable foible in a masterwork and the other's... distinctly less so. Sidenote: my partner has been reading through terrible Forgotten Realms tie-in novels (don't ask me why), and there's been a copy of Elminster Enraged sitting on our bedside bookshelf for a couple of months. I have profound difficulties not thinking of that book as Elminster Engorged, even though I have no idea whether it contains Elminster sex or not, because I did my time in the FR novel mines in high school and have no plans to return. It's just... Elminster, you know?
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Ed Greenwood is a weird pervert, but that's not necessarily pejorative any more than "slapthighs" is as a term. 
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I mainly play board games, but occasionally I get to play some rpgs. So far I have only played 3.5, Scion, and 5th Edition. None of them have struck me as mechanically sound or balanced. And I definitely wouldn't consider any of them a straight up "I want to play these all the time" favorite, or advocate for them that matter. Nonetheless I still have a fun time role playing and slaying baddies with my friends. Shelf status: one 5ed rule book is resting above six 18XX games
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