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Lid posted:Cant find much on Salman Abedi but one thing is it seems that he was a British citizen. Not an immigrant. well then, maybe you should stop playing at being an internet detective, and we can wait for actual, real information, to be released and reported on.
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geological reasons are to blame im thinking plate tectonics and soil erosion, you can't loving trust dirt it's brown
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TomViolence posted:geological reasons are to blame I blame evolution, for making homo sapiens sapiens happen. Big error.
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Also, whoeversaid Norway is not socialist country was spot on, no European country has been for a while. Long while. If if you want to argue with "whatever wingers" by saying country X like Norway or Sweden is socialist, don't do that pls. Last true mighty power of socialism in North Europe was DDR which was a horrible shitshow people tried to escape with a risk to their lives, it was so bad. That does not exist today and not even close.
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forkboy84 posted:I blame evolution, for making homo sapiens sapiens happen. Big error. evolution is a loser
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Oberleutnant posted:The four bombers responsible for the 2007 london bombings were all British, brn and bred. The perpetrator of the Westminster attack this year was a Briton, born with the noticably foreign sounding name of Adrian Elms. Stop trying to make these incidents about scary foreign immigrants you loving racist turds. It's not about immigration, it's about you being scurred of brown people. You're pathetic. A single generation of residency doesn't erase the fact that there is an assimilation problem, even if it takes a generation to develop. Whether it's immigrants or the kids of immigrants, you have an issue on your hands with demographical contributors. There isn't some magic wand that makes it stop being a cultural and immigration issue because one generation passes.
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forkboy84 posted:I blame evolution, for making homo sapiens sapiens happen. Big error. they should have stopped at just the one sapiens, quit while they were ahead im fine with the homo though
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The UK asylum application rate is like 6 per 100,000 as opposed to the European average of 26 Barging in to make points about the CRAZY EUROPEAN ASYLUM system being at fault is dumb dumb dumb
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vodkat posted:well then, maybe you should stop playing at being an internet detective, and we can wait for actual, real information, to be released and reported on. Internet detective? It was the BBC... https://twitter.com/DannyShawBBC/status/866985543720161280
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Ligur posted:Also, whoeversaid Norway is not socialist country was spot on, no European country has been for a while. Long while. No, don't think I'll let a racist oval office define socialism, thanks very much.
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Regarding that NYT graph showing recent terrorist attacks in Europe, for which Norway wasn't shown -- that attack was in 2011, and the graph only goes as far back as Jan 2015. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/23/world/europe/europe-terror-attacks.html Notwithstanding the 'bodycount' metric itself is bullshit, and they should instead be looking at the reactions each attack triggered, which is why they happen in the first place. Nobody's trying to destroy Britain by killing every single person in it.
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That just means born in Britain it doesn't mean they're not from some hardcore wahhabi family.
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forkboy84 posted:I blame evolution, for making homo sapiens sapiens happen. Big error. "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
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forkboy84 posted:No, don't think I'll let a racist oval office define socialism, thanks very much. Norway's not a socialist country though. No more than Britain is.
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Sulla-Marius 88 posted:Regarding that NYT graph showing recent terrorist attacks in Europe, for which Norway wasn't shown -- that attack was in 2011, and the graph only goes as far back as Jan 2015.
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Man, if only we could figure out what makes these young, isolated, alienated, frustrated young men lash out like that. Couldn't be the volitile mix of depression and toxic masculinity. Ah well, let's keep on discriminating and alienating them, that'll fix things.
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The ideas and ideals of socialism are present in almost every European country, the only difference is to which extent. Health care, pensions, living wage, affordable public education etc.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Remember when there was nothing? I don't remember anyone asking me if I wanted a big bang.
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Randarkman posted:Norway's not a socialist country though. No more than Britain is. It says a lot for the strength of Republican branding that now even self-styled intellectual elitists use their definition for socialism.
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Randarkman posted:Norway's not a socialist country though. No more than Britain is. The Nordic model is social democracy which is closer to what a lot of European countries do, and I agree it's not socialism as inherently defined, but likewise a lot of right-wingers mistakenly assume that 'socialist' means 'Soviet authoritarianism with central planning.' Definitions be hosed yo.
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SteelMentor posted:Man, if only we could figure out what makes these young, isolated, alienated, frustrated young men lash out like that. Couldn't be the volitile mix of depression and toxic masculinity. Putting their entire families into camps is being mooted by some of our top columnists. A surefire solution that could never backfire!
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Bape Culture posted:That just means born in Britain it doesn't mean they're not from some hardcore wahhabi family. The westminster knife attacker was a convert. One of the Lee Rigby killers was a convert. One of the 7/7 bombers was a convert. The others were born into Islam, and I couldn't comment on whether they were hardcore wahhabi families, but it's clearly highly simplistic to boil it down to "immigrants aren't integrating"
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SteelMentor posted:Man, if only we could figure out what makes these young, isolated, alienated, frustrated young men lash out like that. Couldn't be the volitile mix of depression and toxic masculinity. Look at this joker over here, thinks the answer to conflict is communication (it's more guns)
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It's times like these that we must come together and see that while there are a few awful, awful posters who want to make life hell for everyone, the vast majority of the thread are decent people who will speak up against racists and nazis, even those who rarely post. You're good people, UKMT.
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All the assholes who came into this thread to gloat about terror are loving ghouls.
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I'm glad we can summarise the effects of mass immigration with 20 years of data, we should start doing that for everything. Smoking is an effective nootropic and antidepressant with minor respiratory side effects. ave a puff lad
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SteelMentor posted:Man, if only we could figure out what makes these young, isolated, alienated, frustrated young men lash out like that. Couldn't be the volitile mix of depression and toxic masculinity. I disagree, we need to forcibly put the most dangerous ones into poorly managed camps. If we isolate them from society and keep them out of sigh there is no chance they can do further harm, furthermore *farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt*
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kanonvandekempen posted:The ideas and ideals of socialism are present in almost every European country, the only difference is to which extent. Those are ideas held by socialists, yeah. But they are far from unique to socialists and can be embraced by people and parties and ideologies who you would never call socialist. Beign a country that has many of these as policies does not and has never made a country socialist in the sense that you can call it a "socialist state", which I implies something more, like an ideological or constitutional foundation. Foreign socialists (particuarly Americans and British) should stop claiming Scandinavia as their own as a socialist state, because its annoying and embarassing. It's like Mormons claiming everyone they liked throughout history as a Mormon (well not exactly).
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Just because people do terrorism IRL doesn't mean you all have to come do forums terrorism on UKMT with awful posting. I for one am staunchly against thread immigration because there's all these weirdos coming in and not integrating with our posting culture.
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Pochoclo posted:That's the sound of your goalposts moving. Suddenly it's not about immigration at all - it's about a neglected socioeconomic class. To be clear immigration in general is bad for housing, the environment, jobs. Allowing it is just giving The Man another weapon in his arsenal. Muslim immigrants just come with the added bonus of putting down poisonous roots Also lol at the word Paddy being verboten now in this thread. This thread is more milquetoast than a piece of lightly browned bread dunked into a glass of milk, repeatedly (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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buckets of buckets posted:To be clear immigration in general is bad for housing, the environment, jobs. Allowing it is just giving The Man another weapon in his arsenal. Muslim immigrants just come with the added bonus of putting down poisonous roots My goodness, aren't you special.
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gently caress oooooffff racists out of my country thread.
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SteelMentor posted:Man, if only we could figure out what makes these young, isolated, alienated, frustrated young men lash out like that. Couldn't be the volitile mix of depression and toxic masculinity. alienated AND frustrated, wow i would've felt sorry for him if i had known that instead of being an angry racist. Thank you
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The westminster knife attacker was a convert. One of the Lee Rigby killers was a convert. One of the 7/7 bombers was a convert. I'm going to say the movie Four Lions is correct about who becomes terrorists. It's not going to be the weird regressive openly fundamentalist weirdos who carries out attacks. It's going to be relatively young disaffected guys who want to "do something", "make a mark" anything to "make a difference" for Islam and/or Muslims. The regressive fundamentalist is a societal danger in his own right, but he's probably going to be happy enough about measuring his beard and locking his wife in a cupboard while playing football in a robe and not really bother with blowing himself up.
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Randarkman posted:Those are ideas held by socialists, yeah. But they are far from unique to socialists and can be embraced by people and parties and ideologies who you would never call socialist. Beign a country that has many of these as policies does not and has never made a country socialist in the sense that you can call it a "socialist state", which I implies something more, like an ideological or constitutional foundation. Is it as embarrassing as being unable to spell embarrassing? So what is an example of a socialist state then, shitposter Randarkman? In an essay of under 1,000 words please explain how Nordic social democracy no longer counts as socialism. Take your time. In fact, take the rest of your life writing it, so we never have to read one of your posts again.
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https://twitter.com/raffpantucci/status/867002694967455744
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This isn't proof our security services are rubbish at their job, just that they need even more surveillance powers, and we need much less in the way of civil liberties. Huzzah.
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Randarkman posted:I'm going to say the movie Four Lions is correct about who becomes terrorists. It's not going to be the weird regressive openly fundamentalist weirdos who carries out attacks. It's going to be relatively young disaffected guys who want to "do something" Rubber dinghy rapids bruv? Oh poo poo didn't they shut down the rubber dinghy rapids due to that girl's death? 
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