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Norway, the super-successful Sweden of the 80s or the Finland of 1999 had little to do with socialism. It was high taxes, which are/were spent on public services, and private enteprise with the help of superbly educated & unified populace and incredibly good infra. These were never planned or socialist economies. Sorry, some of you guys!
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forkboy84 posted:Is it as embarrassing as being unable to spell embarrassing? democracy
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forkboy84 posted:Is it as embarrassing as being unable to spell embarrassing? Nah, I'm okay with misspelling words.
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buckets of buckets posted:Also lol at the word Paddy being verboten now in this thread. This thread is more milquetoast than a piece of lightly browned bread dunked into a glass of milk, repeatedly Its PC gone mad!!
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Can't even say I'm going down the bleeding paki shop thanks to Labour!
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Ligur posted:Norway, the super-successful Sweden of the 80s or the Finland of 1999 had little to do with socialism. Yes, this is why we don't let loving racist idiots from the far right define what socialism is. Now gently caress off already. croc suit posted:democracy Despite you not being randarkman this response was everything I hoped for, so thanks. Now gently caress off already.
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Ligur posted:It was high taxes, which are/were spent on public services Ah, capitalism you say.
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Man, I can't wait for May to use this debacle to justify putting those censors and blocks on the net they proposed. Solve the societal problems that lead to poo poo like this? That sounds like some pinko faggotry, better to spy on everyone all the time, Mother May knows best citizen. Also croc suit posted:alienated AND frustrated, wow i would've felt sorry for him if i had known that instead of being an angry racist. Thank you gently caress off racist. Crawl back to GBS.
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Definitely beginning to think that Brexit was a good idea because clearly europe is full of terrible posters. I do not want UKMT to form an ever closer union with Europol.
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Please explain to me, a really smart person, how an inherently capitalist society isn't socialist!
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croc suit posted:alienated AND frustrated, wow i would've felt sorry for him if i had known that instead of being an angry racist. Thank you
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OwlFancier posted:Definitely beginning to think that Brexit was a good idea because clearly europe is full of terrible posters. Unfortunately Brexit will not see bad foreign posters exiled to Europol where they belong. There are no quotas for bad for posters as part of David Davis negotiations as far as I'm aware.
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Stop engaging these shitbrains. They've found a really good reason to attack you all and you're letting them do it.
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Lightning Lord posted:Stop engaging these shitbrains. They've found a really good reason to attack you all and you're letting them do it. Is this about Manchester and aimed at the media or about the UKMT?
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Lightning Lord posted:Stop engaging these shitbrains. They've found a really good reason to attack you all and you're letting them do it. It's funny how one of the best thread immigrants by far is our Saudia Arabian poster.
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Lightning Lord posted:Stop engaging these shitbrains. They've found a really good reason to attack you all and you're letting them do it. loving gobshites the lot of em Machineprobe em i say. Lol people died Immigrants sure are bad amirite
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Lightning Lord posted:Stop engaging these shitbrains. They've found a really good reason to attack you all and you're letting them do it. Really the only reasonable response is to call them cunts, but sadly a lot of thread regulars (despite being Correct people) lack my heroic commitment to this type of ideological purity. 
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They could just gently caress off forever, burdon of not being a shitheel is on them.
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Oberleutnant posted:Here's an interesting look at the racist oval office at work. He likes to make sweeping generalisations like "immigrants bad" from specific incidents. But when you suggest looking for broad, underlying causes and potential solutions to systemic issues his backward, brokeass brain can't handle it. You can't compete with an ideology that threatens eternal damnation and promises an eternity of bliss when people truly believe it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tesseraction posted:It's funny how one of the best thread immigrants by far is our Saudia Arabian poster. white people are loving trash (including me)
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Oberleutnant posted:Here's an interesting look at the racist oval office at work. He likes to make sweeping generalisations like "immigrants bad" from specific incidents. But when you suggest looking for broad, underlying causes and potential solutions to systemic issues his backward, brokeass brain can't handle it. A fellow phrenologist, how do you do
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croc suit posted:alienated AND frustrated, wow i would've felt sorry for him if i had known that instead of being an angry racist. Thank you He was talking about anger and frustration as a systemic, social issue you certinous, racist oval office. But you're not interested in system issues unless the answer is "kill the darkies", are you? Go gently caress yourself you deeply stupid vile oval office.
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I'm just saying when some dude slides in here bad faith because they're a ghoulish vulture and says incredibly dumb things instead of trying to refute them, which is like yelling at clouds to stop being so high up in the sky, you should try thinking "Hmm, maybe this person is being disingenuous and I should ignore them"
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Tesseraction posted:It's funny how one of the best thread immigrants by far is our Saudia Arabian poster. AHEM. Typical pro-arab, anti-semitic european.
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new phone who dis posted:You can't compete with an ideology that threatens eternal damnation and promises an eternity of bliss when people truly believe it. Yes you can.
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Oberleutnant posted:He was talking about anger and frustration as a systemic, social issue you certinous, racist oval office. But you're not interested in system issues unless the answer is "kill the darkies", are you? I didnt realise the root cause was attendees of ariana grande concerts, my mistake comrade always glad to be reeducated in proper doctrine
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Miftan posted:AHEM. Typical pro-arab, anti-semitic european. You're an immigrant who's a regular in the thread. That's different. 
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new phone who dis posted:You can't compete with an ideology that threatens eternal damnation and promises an eternity of bliss when people truly believe it. My man have you tried LSD?
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Lightning Lord posted:I'm just saying when some dude slides in here bad faith because they're a ghoulish vulture and says incredibly dumb things instead of trying to refute them, which is like yelling at clouds to stop being so high up in the sky, you should try thinking "Hmm, maybe this person is being disingenuous and I should ignore them" You can also call them names while ignoring their stupid poo poo, that works well.
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Ligur posted:Also, whoeversaid Norway is not socialist country was spot on, no European country has been for a while. Long while. So your metric of what a socialist country is "is it bad?' Or less charitably 'do I dislike it?'. Again you state that there is only one kind of socialism and will only ever be one kind of socialism. On the other hand any time a capitalist state overdoes it and people die in poverty that's just that particular country. capitalism, according to you, is able to morph and adapt and is therefore a system above morality in a way rigid old socialism can never be. This thread is argueing for a very different thing to you. When this thread champions socialism it's championing a fairer society, strong worker rights, strong welfare systems and intelligent energy policies. An end to corporations controlling the government via corruption and increased living standards for all. But for you socialism is apparently all gulags and east Germany. Because you've 'no true scotsmanned' yourself into that corner. You're playing games with labels.
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OwlFancier posted:Yes you can. It seems like even the most permissive and liberal of European societies still have to take it on the chin in regards to this issue. Once Sweden started getting hit, the argument that society could somehow accommodate all of them went out the window. Sorry fellas, your ideology is not equipped to handle this phenomenon.
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croc suit posted:I didnt realise the root cause was attendees of ariana grande concerts, my mistake comrade always glad to be reeducated in proper doctrine Like look at this clearly this is a individual interested in debating effective solutions to terrorism in the UK and came to this thread in good faith to discuss it OwlFancier posted:You can also call them names while ignoring their stupid poo poo, that works well. Ya
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If private and (rather free) enterprise combined with extremely high taxes, spent on education and education, is "socialism" over here, or anywhere, I profess to be a socialist right this moment. Good enough for me. (Also it appears some posters have a "bit" of an obsession with either far right, racism, or both, you won't do it am sure but not thinking "everyone I disagree with is HITTLARR" isn't a solid or objective or rational choice.)
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new phone who dis posted:It seems like even the most permissive and liberal of European societies still have to take it on the chin in regards to this issue. Once Sweden started getting hit, the argument that society could somehow accommodate all of them went out the window. Sorry fellas, your ideology is not equipped to handle this phenomenon. Gbs
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Ligur posted:If private and (rather free) enterprise combined with extremely high taxes, spent on education and education, is "socialism" over here, or anywhere, I profess to be a socialist right this moment. Isn't that social democracy, which the far right is interested in dismantling? There's also some elements of market socialism in there possibly
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Regarde Aduck posted:So your metric of what a socialist country is "is it bad?' Or less charitably 'do I dislike it?'. Again you state that there is only one kind of socialism and will only ever be one kind of socialism. On the other hand any time a capitalist state overdoes it and people die in poverty that's just that particular country. capitalism, according to you, is able to morph and adapt and is therefore a system above morality in a way rigid old socialism can never be. Socialism means the workers control the means of production. That's it. It has nothing to do with Social Programs, which can and do exist just fine under capitalism.
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new phone who dis posted:You can't compete with an ideology that threatens eternal damnation and promises an eternity of bliss when people truly believe it. Which is why the catholic church reigns supreme!
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kingturnip posted:The point is that, while it's terrible that there are people willing to commit suicide bombings and/or kill people to further an extremist cause, you're far more likely to die in any other number of ways well before your life expectancy would suggest. also a compelling argument against gun control, as your odds of going down in a mass shooting are much lower than, say, dying in a car accident
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Lightning Lord posted:I'm just saying when some dude slides in here bad faith because they're a ghoulish vulture and says incredibly dumb things instead of trying to refute them, which is like yelling at clouds to stop being so high up in the sky, you should try thinking "Hmm, maybe this person is being disingenuous and I should ignore them" This is the easiest trolled thread in the easiest trolled part of Something Awful. We make the horrible crime of being sincere in our care for our fellow human beings. Regarde Aduck posted:So your metric of what a socialist country is "is it bad?' Or less charitably 'do I dislike it?'. Again you state that there is only one kind of socialism and will only ever be one kind of socialism. On the other hand any time a capitalist state overdoes it and people die in poverty that's just that particular country. capitalism, according to you, is able to morph and adapt and is therefore a system above morality in a way rigid old socialism can never be. No, Stalinism & Maoism & Pol Potism are the only forms of Socialism. So says some dumb gently caress racists, and thus, so it is.
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