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Jaxyon posted:It should not be ignored that charters actually have a decent following in minority communities with concerned parents who see it as a way for their children to actually have a chance at success in areas where the schools are terrible. There's not much difference in support for charter schools across racial groups. TyroneGoldstein posted:Basically. In 'bad' school districts it's a way for the students that have more involved parents to get their kids out of the system. In the case of gentrifying whites (See: Weehawken NJ, among other places), it's a way to not have to send their kids to the schools with those same troubled kids. It's a win-win for each of those groups. Public "Magnet" schools without entrance requirements pose exactly the same problem. And Special Ed is bizzaro world where neighborhood public schools have the best services so even rich, savvy parents are going to send their kid with autism to a class with all the proles.
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Sloober posted:https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/867427806413811712 
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Jaxyon posted:It should not be ignored that charters actually have a decent following in minority communities with concerned parents who see it as a way for their children to actually have a chance at success in areas where the schools are terrible. It's still a FYGM attitude. Sure, it's defensible and terrible that people in these communities feel they have to look outside the public school system in order for their kids to have a chance, but that doesn't change the underlying truth of what they're doing: pulling money out of an already cash-strapped public school system and letting their kids benefit at the expense of the kids who remain at public schools.
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Doctor Butts posted:Northern Ohio is not to blame for this. Correct. Northern Ohio best Ohio.
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Piell posted:Video of Devos saying that she would continue to fund schools that discriminate against LGBT/minority students, as long as the state says its ok Last November I called up a few of my old A.C.E. contacts and Prester Jane posted:So on the topic of the Trump administration's plans for the future of education in America I have some interesting scuttlebutt to share. I recently checked in on some of the behind the scenes activity happening in Accelerated Christian Education and gleaned a few interesting tidbits. Mind you, I can't verify any of this, so take it with a grain of salt. That said, here are the highlights. It seems to me that the religious right intends to re-fight the LGBT culture wars with children since they lost the argument with adults. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 18:35 on May 24, 2017 |
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30 years from now, Cyborg Scorsese is gonna make a movie about the rise and fall of Fox News.
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theflyingorc posted:One thing is for certain: If he loses, this thread will have half a dozen posters LOSING THEIR MINDS about how the Democrats are DEFINITELY doomed forever "He would have won if he had pushed for full communism!!"
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Baronash posted:It's still a FYGM attitude. Sure, it's defensible and terrible that people in these communities feel they have to look outside the public school system in order for their kids to have a chance, but that doesn't change the underlying truth of what they're doing: pulling money out of an already cash-strapped public school system and letting their kids benefit at the expense of the kids who remain at public schools. A lot of folks are in "bad school districts" because they are really poor and can't afford to live in "good school districts" so describing it as FYGM is pretty tone-deaf. It's certainly a plan to gently caress over public schools and funnel money to private ones but it's occurring top down and those implementing it are the people deserving of your ire.
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, my only issue with if what he did is legally treason under the US Constitution is that he took the bribe from Turkey, not ISIS. His goal was assisting Turkey, not ISIS, but to assist Turkey he did assist ISIS. Which one controls? The argument could be made that especially he, as a general, would know that in this instance helping Turkey directly worked against US interests.
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evilweasel posted:His covering up was so loving incompetent it was backfiring. The Republicans want the Trump probe quietly obstructed, not loudly obstructed. Nunes was giving away the game so he got yanked out. I know the event that precipitated it but I'm not so sure about why he went along with it. Even now the majority of R voters don't think the whole Russia thing is a big deal, he could have dug his heels in if it had been winnable. e: also it has nice narrative symmetry with Chaffetz's side 
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mcmagic posted:37% is a new low! Yup! The only lower number I've seen was gallup polling had him at 35 for a day and 36 for two days, but this is the new low for Q poll.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Yquote:U.S. President Donald Trump told his Philippine counterpart that Washington has sent two nuclear submarines to waters off the Korean peninsula, the New York Times said, comments likely to raise questions about his handling of sensitive information.
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Skyline Chili owns hard I wish they had restaurants in Texas.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y Thread already talked about this, but it's arguably a larger breech of national security Intel than what he told the Russians. Also another laughable instance of hypocrisy after he whined about Obama announcing troop movements.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y ... Sent? Oh dear. CroatianAlzheimers posted:Correct. Northern Ohio best Ohio. Truly a high bar 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How long until the military begins lying to Trump about sensitive information? Now I'm imaging a button in the war room that flips all the maps and charts from actual military deployments to the electoral map.
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evilweasel posted:lol the georgia race has gotten so expensive local tv stations are reorganizing their lineup so they can show more political ads: quote:Several GOP operatives noted that the party’s committees can use the threat of losing control of Congress as a selling point as they work their donor base. Literally "the fact that we're losing means that we can win!" I mean, they SHOULD run on that if they want to win, but pretending like being in a bad position is actually a GOOD position is really dumb
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Piell posted:Video of Devos saying that she would continue to fund schools that discriminate against LGBT/minority students, as long as the state says its ok
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Captain Invictus posted:I really, really hope she's part of the russian collusion, and they can seize her assets if not jail her. At the end of this, she deserves to be left penniless or worse for loving with the education of children and bringing back discrimination that hasn't been seen in nearly three quarters of a century. I hope so but i think she just bought her position the old fashioned way and is, not at all unexpectedly, unable to do it well.
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theflyingorc posted:Literally "the fact that we're losing means that we can win!" In a bizarre twist of fate, Clinton's 2016 laziness and self-assured of their victory will be mirrored by republicans for years to come!
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Jaxyon posted:A lot of folks are in "bad school districts" because they are really poor and can't afford to live in "good school districts" so describing it as FYGM is pretty tone-deaf. I said this right in the second sentence. I'm not necessarily blaming them for taking advantage of any edge afforded to them. My issue is with using support in minority communities as a defense of charters, which I understand isn't exactly what you were saying, but it comes up frequently. Minority communities support them for the same reason rich white people support them: a small percentage of them get to attend these schools while actively hurting the remaining students who don't. It's a lovely system that fractures education spending in this country, and support of charters is a symptom of a disease, not the cure.
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Sloober posted:I hope so but i think she just bought her position the old fashioned way and is, not at all unexpectedly, unable to do it well. Her brother is both a professional collector of war criminals/mercenary thugs and was involved in trying to set up a back channel for Trump and Putin.
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Blitz7x posted:Dress for the job you want, right Melania? 
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Hollismason posted:Why is Melanie Trump dressed like she is in mourning. Manchester
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Blitz7x posted:Dress for the job you want, right Melania? Lmao
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theflyingorc posted:Yup! The only lower number I've seen was gallup polling had him at 35 for a day and 36 for two days, but this is the new low for Q poll. It's gonna be funny when the GOP holds the House with him at like 26% approval.
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Hollismason posted:Why is Melanie Trump dressed like she is in mourning. There's apparently a tradition that only Catholic queens can wear white while visiting the pope. As to whether that requires everyone else to wear black, I don't know
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Blitz7x posted:Dress for the job you want, right Melania? 
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Admiral Joeslop posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y Is this as bad as it looks to me? Like this looks even worse to me than the Israel Intel thing. He basically just also told North Korea that we just parked nuclear weapons close by them. I don't know how much of a secret it was though. In any case he was clearly bragging to duterte to impress him exactly like he did with the Russians and for the same reason.
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I mean, the concept of chili on pasta is fine, it's just the execution that fails. I'm pretty anxious about the Montana special election.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:Basically. In 'bad' school districts it's a way for the students that have more involved parents to get their kids out of the system. In the case of gentrifying whites (See: Weehawken NJ, among other places), it's a way to not have to send their kids to the schools with those same troubled kids. It's a win-win for each of those groups. Public schools, by their very nature, have massive fixed costs yet have their funding tied heavily to student headcount, so letting funding go to fly-by-night unregulated charter schools necessarily means less money being spent on "discretionary" stuff like music, art, or sane class sizes. DeVos wants all education to be private and gently caress you if you don't make enough to send your kids to a "good" school (or even any school). It's totally worth it to put the screws to those fat-cat unionized teachers.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:There's apparently a tradition that only Catholic queens can wear white while visiting the pope. As to whether that requires everyone else to wear black, I don't know Traditionally yes, although required is less apt than expected. Francis has relaxed the expectation but the Trumps went in very traditional. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/people/melania-ivanka-trump-stuck-traditional-vatican-dress-codes-meeting/ cited as explanation and for the pic of Michelle in traditional veil.
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empty whippet box posted:Is this as bad as it looks to me? Like this looks even worse to me than the Israel Intel thing. He basically just also told North Korea that we just parked nuclear weapons close by them. I don't know how much of a secret it was though. In any case he was clearly bragging to duterte to impress him exactly like he did with the Russians and for the same reason. We talked about it earlier and if they're SSBNs then it's very, very bad but all our subs are technically "nuclear subs" because of their powerplants so it could just be a couple of random subs with a carrier group. So it's either "holy poo poo gently caress" bad or just regular "Trump is dumb" bad.
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