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Guy A. Person posted:I wonder if there will be some sort of time skip? Yes, of about four months like every season.
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So, uh....that was certainly a last episode of a TV show season.
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May 24, 2017 05:40
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I want to believe this means Wally is the new Flash from now on and we can hit the reset button on this whole shambling mound of stupidity, but since I haven't heard of any incoming cast departures, this is all gonna get erased in the very first episode of next season 
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May 24, 2017 05:43
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howe_sam posted:Yes, of about four months like every season. They should pull a Samurai Jack and have Barry pop out of the Speed Force like 10 years in the future or in whatever year that stupid future headline from Season 1 takes place and have him spend half a season trying to get back to the past just so that drat thing can come true already when he finally does go back.
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May 24, 2017 05:43
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Also, I feel like they're trying to do a greatest hits of the Flash, and this is their take on Barry dying and Wally taking over. It won't be remotely permanent and undone in something like 1-3 episodes, but it'll be their play on that part of the comic's history. Now I'm curious if they're going to change the intro narration.
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May 24, 2017 05:43
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nine-gear crow posted:Or flip the whole thing on its head. Create a time remnant and go "dude, love her with all your heart, be a great friend to everyone, and be a better Flash than I was. Laters!" and then fling himself into the Speed Force and then just follow that Barry for the rest of the show and all the wacky CW DramaTM guaranteed to come about because of it. Oh, wow. That would have been a WAY better ending.
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May 24, 2017 05:45
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Phenotype posted:Oh, wow. That would have been a WAY better ending. Isn't that exactly how they got Savitar in the first place?
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May 24, 2017 05:50
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howe_sam posted:Now I'm curious if they're going to change the intro narration. "My name is Wally West, and I'm the fastest man alive. When the Flash died, I became the Flash, and also inherited his supporting cast which is good because I have nothing going on. I think I'm supposed to be a college student? Or was a college student, it hasn't really come up in awhile. Maybe they'll redecorate the Newspaper office set into being a college set, god knows we haven't been using it"
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May 24, 2017 05:51
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I mean Savitar didn't happen just because he was a remnant, it was because everyone was a huge piece of poo poo to him because he wasn't the ~real Barry~. Which, honestly, how the gently caress did future!Barry not realize his remnant was Savitar after everyone treated him like a piece of poo poo?
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May 24, 2017 05:52
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GLOSS posted:Finally that homicidal maniac is locked up where he belongs! A good finale 
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May 24, 2017 06:22
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TheHan posted:Isn't that exactly how they got Savitar in the first place? No, Savitar was the time remnant created to save Iris that got trapped in the Speedforce somehow, after people were lovely to him. If Barry created a time remnant and then handed the remnant his life, and then willingly went into the Speedprison himself, it would have been a great inversion of how Savitar was created.
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May 24, 2017 06:27
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That would be crazy as gently caress if Wally became the lead next season. I hope they go through with it for an episode or two at least.
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May 24, 2017 06:29
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Phenotype posted:No, Savitar was the time remnant created to save Iris that got trapped in the Speedforce somehow, after people were lovely to him. If Barry created a time remnant and then handed the remnant his life, and then willingly went into the Speedprison himself, it would have been a great inversion of how Savitar was created. But then when OG Barry inevitably returns there'd be too many Barrys and one of them is gonna get the shaft. Then it's Savitar 2: Electric Boogaloo and he'll have to go to the past and kill HR Wells to ensure his existence.
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May 24, 2017 06:38
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TheHan posted:But then when OG Barry inevitably returns there'd be too many Barrys and one of them is gonna get the shaft. Then it's Savitar 2: Electric Boogaloo and he'll have to go to the past and kill HR Wells to ensure his existence. Go read the post I was actually responding to. It was just an alternate way they could have ended the season, with time remnant Barry living life as The Flash and Original Barry willingly sacrificing himself and not turning into Savitar. Why are you arguing with me?
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May 24, 2017 07:06
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Phenotype posted:Go read the post I was actually responding to. It was just an alternate way they could have ended the season, with time remnant Barry living life as The Flash and Original Barry willingly sacrificing himself and not turning into Savitar. Why are you arguing with me? Because Savitar pretty clearly established that Barry is kind of a poo poo, and if he lost his friends and family to someone else he'd turn into a crazy supervillain. As it is now, he can enjoy the self-pity while he's trapped in hell, but if he left another Barry out there he'd grow jealous and crazy and break out of speedhell, becoming Savitar
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May 24, 2017 07:13
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Guy Goodbody posted:Because Savitar pretty clearly established that Barry is kind of a poo poo, and if he lost his friends and family to someone else he'd turn into a crazy supervillain. As it is now, he can enjoy the self-pity while he's trapped in hell, but if he left another Barry out there he'd grow jealous and crazy and break out of speedhell, becoming Savitar In the proposed scenario, Barry would have wholeheartedly given up his life to the time remnant knowing he needed to atone for his crimes, and wouldn't have become Savitar. And again, this is a theoretical ending to the season imagined by someone who wasn't even me. It doesn't happen the way you said it does because it happens the way I said it does (because it's purely theoretical). Stop arguing.
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May 24, 2017 07:26
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Phenotype posted:In the proposed scenario, Barry would have wholeheartedly given up his life to the time remnant knowing he needed to atone for his crimes, and wouldn't have become Savitar. No need to get defensive, it's just theorizing what that ending would lead to based off the series history. Sure it could work if Barry was a stable and righteous human being, but if he were he wouldn't be going to speedgitmo in the first place.
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May 24, 2017 07:56
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howe_sam posted:His entire arc in LoT was trying to avoid the consequences of his actions. And them constantly trying to catch up with him. Then finally doing so. I still have no clue what the gently caress they thought that ending was going to be, though. Having Barry actually win without murdering the gently caress out of his opponent (and Iris getting the agency to kill him in defense of Barry) was a solid place to end things. Creating this asinine downer cliffhanger when there's no chance in hell they just ditch their lead of 3 seasons makes no real sense.
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May 24, 2017 08:02
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They're trying to do the All Star Superman ending. "Fixing the sun." Trouble is, Barry isn't All Star Superman, he's just an rear end.
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May 24, 2017 08:06
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Guy Goodbody posted:I can't believe they wrote Caitlyn out into a spin-off that doesn't exist I want her to end up on LoT as next season's "female character we only have for a season." She can learn that being a cold based character doesn't mean she has to be evil, have a doomed romance with a main character (since Ray and Nate had their turn let's mix it up and have the romance be with Captain Lance), and at the end of the season when they dump her character she can come back to Flash just in time for Season 4 to start.
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I'd watch a LoT with Caitlin Snow. She'd be great, I demand more cold puns. Whoever wrote that episode needs tomatoes thrown at them. Terrible writing. Thank gently caress we get 2 episodes of Wally next season. New suit, hopefully. Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 11:46 on May 24, 2017 |
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May 24, 2017 11:41
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 they're doing the Arrow season 3 finale poo poo where the main hero disappears for a few episodes into season 4
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May 24, 2017 15:40
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nine-gear crow posted:They should pull a Samurai Jack NO.
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May 24, 2017 16:55
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8one6 posted:I want her to end up on LoT as next season's "female character we only have for a season." She can learn that being a cold based character doesn't mean she has to be evil, have a doomed romance with a main character (since Ray and Nate had their turn let's mix it up and have the romance be with Captain Lance), and at the end of the season when they dump her character she can come back to Flash just in time for Season 4 to start. Have her show up as a sole surviving member of a Suicide Squad.
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May 24, 2017 17:01
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Is Draco sticking around? The new genious doctor?
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May 24, 2017 17:04
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Balon posted:Is Draco sticking around? The new genious doctor? When Barry comes back, I hope he gets that sick rear end suit from the future Flash episode.
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May 24, 2017 17:23
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good. i hope barry loving stays in there. barry allen sucks.
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May 24, 2017 17:24
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Is it a good idea to have Wally as the new Flash when just a couple of episodes ago we established that undoing Savitar makes him lose his powers?
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May 24, 2017 17:26
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Bruceski posted:Is it a good idea to have Wally as the new Flash when just a couple of episodes ago we established that undoing Savitar makes him lose his powers?
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May 24, 2017 17:27
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spaceships posted:good. i hope barry loving stays in there. Maybe we can get earth 17's fun loving Larry Allen.
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Rocksicles posted:I'd watch a LoT with Caitlin Snow. She'd be great, I demand more cold puns.  I now officially NEED this to happen. A reformed Killer Frost would fit in nicely with the Legends crew.Rocksicles posted:Maybe we can get earth 17's fun loving Larry Allen. They should just bring back Jay Garrick and have him be the Flash for the rest of the series. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 17:30 on May 24, 2017 |
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spaceships posted:good. i hope barry loving stays in there. That's the new opening narration for season 4. "My name is Barry Allen and I'm just the worst."
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May 24, 2017 18:15
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This was a good way to end the series.
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I was honestly hoping for something likenine-gear crow posted:Or flip the whole thing on its head. Create a time remnant and go "dude, love her with all your heart, be a great friend to everyone, and be a better Flash than I was. Laters!" and then fling himself into the Speed Force and then just follow that Barry for the rest of the show and all the wacky CW DramaTM guaranteed to come about because of it. Except instead of Barry creating a time remnant, during the final battle they actually get through to Savitar and figure out how to keep him in existence through SPEEDFORCE. Then the ending plays through exactly the same way except instead of Barry going into the speedforce it's Savitar by choice to save everyone. It'd be a good redemption story flip on them trapping him there. Or maybe flip that and Savitar staying and Barry going, leaving room for classic CW romance drama once Barry gets out again, and Savitar eventually dying or going into the speedforce to replace Barry in the 4th season.
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May 24, 2017 19:08
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So does this mean that Wally West is now the Flash? Red suit and all?
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May 24, 2017 19:14
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Alter Ego posted:So does this mean that Wally West is now the Flash? Red suit and all? Yep! From now until S04E01!
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May 24, 2017 20:07
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He needs a new suit. The face mask doesn't look great, and if he's supposed to be Kid Flash, why did you give him the mask with the heavier brow and more pronounced forehead lines? Who are the costume wizards who came up with that one?
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May 24, 2017 20:30
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I'd love to see them do a complete time skip all the way until 2024 when Iris writes that article about the Flash disappearing, which has now become a retrospective about Barry's time as the Flash before he got locked down. Wally is now THE Flash, and Barry has become a distant memory to almost everyone. Unfortunately that would screw with the now mandated crossover episodes with the other DC shows, so it can never happen...
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May 24, 2017 21:04
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That was so terrible lol. Basically nothing was resolved in a satisfying manner. Cisco and his convenient plot powers is getting annoying. Is there any reason why he couldn't just Vibe the gently caress out of there? Caitlin just suddenly not being evil but not being good or wanting to fix herself was just stupid. DadFlash showing up was awesome, but again made no sense with regards to the Speed Force earlier in the season. I get that they want to end on a clifhanger but they don't need to leave so many things basically unresolved. Hopefully next season will start with "My name is Wally West, and I am the Fastest Man Alive". He'll be the Flash, Barry will come back and Wally will become Impulse.
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ruddiger posted:That would be crazy as gently caress if Wally became the lead next season. I hope they go through with it for an episode or two at least. honestly, I want this wally to be worthy of the title - the wal man and do a story arc that would make enzo matrix from reboot proud. and finally a season where barry didn't do it. :p
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