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Lote posted:It's not a 20% premium hike. Oh my god.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. I doubt they care. They can pass it in reconciliation which is all that matters. They will just lie about the rest of the bill and their rubes will believe them.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. Lol if you think they aren't happy with this. It made the reconciliation limit. That's probably all they wanted.
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So this bill does literally nothing to improve healthcare over existing law (in most cases dramatically worsening it), and the only selling point is it cuts taxes on the rich. I see no way for this to survive the Senate, other than suicidal Republicans.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. Mick Mulvaney is out there basically saying "I care more about my unborn grandchild than I do about whether living poor kids get food" and you think this is gonna make them break stride? They'll just doggedly stick to the idea that the bill SAVES MONEY  and a decent portion of America will buy it or decide the CBO is FAKE NEWS.I think the Senate has difficulty getting 50 votes for this monstrosity, though. Heller, Flake, Collins, Portman, possibly Burr and Murkowski are probably going to balk at the Medicaid cuts.
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Skyr posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/867481059784626177 The twist: It's Donald's heart.
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Skyr posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/867481059784626177 Must have been a relief interacting with someone who has both the mind and body of a child
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. I promise you we are about an hour out from a Ryan tweet or statement pointing out "Over 1 Billion in savings!!!!". The CBO could report that it will outright kill 200 million americans and Ryan/McConnel would spin it as a huge reduction in medical waste/fraud.
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Alter Ego posted:Mick Mulvaney is out there basically saying "I care more about my unborn grandchild than I do about whether living poor kids get food" and you think this is gonna make them break stride? They'll just doggedly stick to the idea that the bill SAVES MONEY and then their Medicaid and SSI will get taken away and then they'll die lol
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There Bias Two posted:So you're saying with this new bill, they expect a hike of up to 50%?! Actually, it's 30% higher than 120% of this years. so up to 56% hahahahah premiums next year could go up ALMOST SIXTY PERCENT
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. If it can pass reconciliation it is, isn't it? I mean they can't actually claim they care about the impact when they rushed to beat the CBO score.
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My Twitter Account posted:Only until the plague takes care of them. Dishonored and Deus Ex are both good games but I can't afford the nanomods right now.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:not really sure what you'd like to see them do that they're able to at this point a.) Loudly condemn the bill. b.) Communicate via empathy for those losing coverage & anger towards rich getting tax cuts, not just smugness.
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The CBO did not attempt to determine what states would ask for waivers. quote:As a result, CBO and JCT’s estimates reflect an assessment of the probabilities of different outcomes (without any explicit predictions about which states make which choices) and are, by the agencies’ judgment, in the middle of the distribution of potential outcomes.
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It should go without saying, but this is class warfare.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol if you think this is the CBO scoring Ryan or McConnell want. "Poor people get hosed over" is something both Ryan and McConnell will probably masturbate to tonight
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If you think the 20% premium increase is crazy: https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/867482139566145536
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androo posted:a.) Loudly condemn the bill. They're going to do both of these things but they take longer than 15 minutes.
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haveblue posted:Must have been a relief interacting with someone who has both the mind and body of a child Lmao
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evilweasel posted:The CBO did not attempt to determine what states would ask for waivers. Seems reasonable. They probably started with New York and California at 0% chance of asking for a waiver, Alabama at maybe 80%, and then figured out the expected average.
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androo posted:a.) Loudly condemn the bill. a) There's going to be any number of Democrats who do this. b) I'm not sure what this means, but this literally just happened 20 minutes ago. Maybe wait to see what their response is first?
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B B posted:If you think the 20% premium increase is crazy: our only hope is the AARP lmao
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B B posted:If you think the 20% premium increase is crazy: What in the actual gently caress
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B B posted:If you think the 20% premium increase is crazy: that's the good news: states without waivers would be 940%
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B B posted:If you think the 20% premium increase is crazy: Mother of god.
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fsif posted:It should go without saying, but this is class warfare. No, this is democide.
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fsif posted:It should go without saying, but this is class warfare. Lining people up to shoot them in the head is not war
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Pollyanna posted:Mother of god. Remember that woman that tried to run her rep off the road? There's going to be more of those stories.
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Ted Bundy and Waco: The Video Game
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old poor people: you are dead. the end. you're simply dead.
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The GOP may have been hoping the media would announce "hey, it got a little better, 1 million more people insured!" Instead, the media is blaring 23 million will lose coverage by 2026 in 80-point font.
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Pendragon posted:Lol if you think they aren't happy with this. It made the reconciliation limit. That's probably all they wanted. Realize they had to have the house pass a bill that will raise premiums, cut off insurance for 50+ million and give massive tax breaks to the wealthy, just to have the senate replace the entire bill anew. All those town halls and any blowback they get over this (and there will be tons because healthcare matters to individuals) will be for a loving nothing bill. Alter Ego posted:Mick Mulvaney is out there basically saying "I care more about my unborn grandchild than I do about whether living poor kids get food" and you think this is gonna make them break stride? They'll just doggedly stick to the idea that the bill SAVES MONEY You're missing the forest for the trees. It doesn't matter if their base keeps listening to Rush, the fact the CBO scoring is so bad for a pointless bill hurts them with their reluctant and moderate voters. The Republicans have tricked you into seeing incompetence as wisdom by beating expectations. The idea the House bill would fail the CBO reconciliation limit assumes Ryan's team majorly hosed up on their math. Instead, they didn't gently caress up their math, they just made the house pass a pointlessly ghoulish bill to try and appease a right wing that can't be appeased.
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RZA Encryption posted:Remember that woman that tried to run her rep off the road? She has a legitimate argument now that that was self-defense.
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theflyingorc posted:old poor people: you are dead. the end. you're simply dead.
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Have any GOPers come out in favor of these results yet? The spin will be terrible.
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evilweasel posted:but what about the high-risk pools????? Pretty much what we all expected. $8bil is nothing
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There Bias Two posted:Have any GOPers come out in favor of these results yet? The spin will be terrible. why yes paul ryan has
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