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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Would you take the Eagles offense or the Giants offense this year? easy You go with the better QB
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This has always been the Eagles thread. Why are there so many more Eagles fans than fans of the other NFC East teams? 
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May 25, 2017 01:25
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I think we're just louder/more devoted.
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May 25, 2017 01:55
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TheChirurgeon posted:FO has its problems but Iodised was wrong in his criticism. Football Outsiders ranked them #2 in sack rate, which even if you take out their weeabo adjustments isn't wildly different from just looking at the actual sack rate--sacks/pass attempts. I agree with what you point out in this post and it was the main point I was trying to make in my criticism of FO here. Sack rate is a garbage stat and heavily influenced by the quarterback behind the line and judging an OL entirely based off of its sack rate is really simplistic. You would hope a site that wants to be seen as having advanced stats would be able to cook up something more complex than what basically boils down to "sacks/dropbacks." It's also why the Giants come out way ahead of the Packers in pass blocking according to FO which is what I mentioned in my post - Eli gets the ball out of his hands incredibly quickly, for better or worse, and even in many of those scenarios he's pressured. But there's nothing in FO's calculations that takes this into account. Only if he actually gets sacked does it matter. PFF does a slightly better job at accounting for this but they're still pretty flawed there too. Contrast that to the Packers, who give Rodgers so much time that he occasionally runs in circles in the pocket waiting for someone to come open. But he does take more sacks doing this so FO comes to the conclusion that Giants OL > Packers OL. Reality is a lot more complex than that and I would hope that a stat like this is one thing that they're focusing hard on improving upon.
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May 25, 2017 07:50
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Also, by my own metrics that I refuse to share, the Giants' offense is better than the Eagles
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May 25, 2017 07:53
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Would you take the Eagles offense or the Giants offense this year? I'd rank it: 1. Cowboys 2. Eagles 3. Giants 4. Lolskins But the Eagles and Giants are really close. I'd rather have the Eagles O-line and the Giants WRs. I'd take Wentz over Eli but I'm a giant homer. RB situation is kind of a toss-up. NotWearingPants posted:This has always been the Eagles thread. Posting's all we have since we dont have ~*RINGZZZ*~ 
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May 25, 2017 13:10
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axeil posted:Posting's all we have since we dont have ~*RINGZZZ*~ I'm p.sure they don't give out rings to fans anyway. I think the Eagles offense is now good enough to be as good as Carson Wentz makes it. It doesn't have the kind of weapons that could carry a mediocre QB, but it's got enough for a good QB to win. Wentz had a clear disadvantage with his receiving core last season. He won't have that excuse anymore.
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May 25, 2017 17:44
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axeil posted:I'd rank it: Really? You think Washington is that bad? Our offensive line is solid, Cousins has proven to be a viable starter, and we have weapons. I would at least put them over the Giants on the offensive line alone.
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May 25, 2017 19:06
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Really? You think Washington is that bad? Our offensive line is solid, Cousins has proven to be a viable starter, and we have weapons. I would at least put them over the Giants on the offensive line alone. I think the Washington Redskins suffer from people not knowing their team very well because they've been irrelevant for so long that nobody pays attention. They are better than people think.
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May 25, 2017 19:10
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The main issue for the Skins is they lost their top 2 WRs (I know Crowder is secretly the best but still) and Doctson is a ???
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May 25, 2017 19:12
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SHOAH NUFF posted:The main issue for the Skins is they lost their top 2 WRs (I know Crowder is secretly the best but still) and Doctson is a ??? But they got Pryor and still have Jordan Reed.
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May 25, 2017 19:48
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That's true, Pryor will be probably better than any WR they had last year. Jordan Reed is a concussion away from retiring it seems
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May 25, 2017 19:51
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NotWearingPants posted:I'm p.sure they don't give out rings to fans anyway. Yep I'm kind of worried tbh. He might not be good.
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May 25, 2017 19:57
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NotWearingPants posted:I think the Washington Redskins suffer from people not knowing their team very well because they've been irrelevant for so long that nobody pays attention. They are better than people think. Yeah. It also doesn't help that during the offseason Washington tends to make a joke of themselves with things like firing the GM around free agency. SHOAH NUFF posted:The main issue for the Skins is they lost their top 2 WRs (I know Crowder is secretly the best but still) and Doctson is a ??? I'd say the lack of certainty at RB is a bigger issue than losing Jackson and Garcon. Garcon's benefit was primarily as a veteran presence and while Jackson's speed is obvious I think they can make do with what they have. Crowder is a great player, Reed is an amazing red zone threat, and Washington's biggest issue was the red zone. Between Reed, Doctson, and Pryor Cousins should have plenty of big bodies to throw to. Brian Quick might also prove interesting at 6'3" but if he hasn't figured out the game by now I doubt anything will change in DC. Either way I think Washington has what it takes to have a third winning season. At the very least Cousins will be playing for a monster contract (on another team  ).
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May 25, 2017 20:00
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euphronius posted:Yep Nonsense 
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May 25, 2017 20:02
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euphronius posted:Yep I wouldn't worry. By the Law of Cleveland Always Makes The Wrong QB Decision he should at least be decent solely by their deliberate choice to pass on him. Ragnarok the Red fucked around with this message at 20:35 on May 25, 2017 |
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May 25, 2017 20:31
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euphronius posted:Yep I'm a little worried that he might only end up being a top 5 QB, but I'm p.sure he'll be the best when Brady retires.
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May 25, 2017 20:51
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The bigger problem with Washington is that Kirk doesn't want to be there and could pretty much do jack poo poo and get signed by the Niners next season.
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May 25, 2017 23:56
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a new study bible! posted:The bigger problem with Washington is that Kirk doesn't want to be there and could pretty much do jack poo poo and get signed by the Niners next season. Yeah, for all the bluster I've heard from the front office it's pretty blatant that Cousins has no problem moving on and is probably eager to do so. I don't think he'll half-rear end things, especially since the better he plays the better his contract, but either Washington is going to pay out the nose or they're going to lose him. And even a massive contract may not be enough.
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May 26, 2017 01:28
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Yeah but I think this guy just likes to play football https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecC4ASKETk
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May 26, 2017 03:29
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Josh Norman did an interview and he had several insightful things to say about some other NFC East players:quote:Let's get into a little word association with receivers. Dez Bryant? quote:So when you think of Odell, what is his game? He goes on to talk about how none of the receivers in the NFC East represent a real challenge like Julio Jones or Antonio Brown, and then a little for the Eagles too: quote:Who are the other receivers more like Julio Jones then? Who do you have circled on your own schedule? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...200776899256040
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May 27, 2017 02:12
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in a division littered with hilarious cartoon characters and villains, josh norman is the most inconsequential and boring of them
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May 27, 2017 05:11
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corn on the cop posted:in a division littered with hilarious cartoon characters and villains, josh norman is the most inconsequential and boring of them I wish he would talk less. The whole thing with OBJ is ridiculous and while he's clearly a solid corner I don't think his actions back up his words as much as he thinks they do.
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May 27, 2017 05:19
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Did he do much last year? I can't remember
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May 27, 2017 15:34
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He had a good, not great season and got penalized a lot
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May 27, 2017 15:40
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corn on the cop posted:He had a good, not great season and got penalized a lot He had poo poo days in his first games against Bryant and ODB and did OK in his second games, on Thanksgiving against Bryant in which Bryant beat him bad on a crucial 3rd down play to set up the win and in a nothing-at-stake week 17 game against the Giants So good-not-great is accurate, but I'd probably shut up and keep my head down if I were him, given that that Washington missed the playoffs
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May 27, 2017 16:00
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Howie freed up another 2.5 million in space almost by restructuring McLeod
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May 27, 2017 21:03
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Nolan Carroll got arrested for DWI
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May 30, 2017 11:42
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CyberPingu posted:Nolan Carroll officially became a Cowboy ftfy
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May 30, 2017 17:12
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ONLY THE FINEST OF CHARACTER TO PLAY ON JASON GARRETTS TEAM
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May 30, 2017 18:44
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He didn't even injure, let alone kill a teammate so nah
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May 31, 2017 06:13
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In a Q&A today, an Eagles beat writer was asked to name the best QB in the NFC East going in to the 2017 season. For me, the obvious answer to this question is Carson Wentz. He said Kirk Cousins.
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Jun 1, 2017 02:19
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Was it Marcus Hayes?
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Jun 1, 2017 07:50
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NotWearingPants posted:In a Q&A today, an Eagles beat writer was asked to name the best QB in the NFC East going in to the 2017 season. Nick Foles, hands down. 
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axeil posted:Nick Foles, hands down. Hey, that's Hall of Famer Nick Foles. 
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Quiet Feet posted:Hey, that's Hall of Famer Nick Foles. I think you mean Pro Bowl MVP Nick Foles
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Jun 2, 2017 13:29
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Doubting Nick Foles goes to show that the Eye Test is empirical.
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Jun 2, 2017 14:59
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First Foles comes back. Next Maclin gets cut. The universe is trying to undo the idiocy of Chip Kelly The Fraud.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:12
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I want Mac Back
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Diqnol posted:I want Mac Back 
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