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Election night is going to be amazing I cannot wait. Namtab posted:On the off chance that Labour wins I will use all of my influence to ensure pissflaps is banned Banned from your anime club?
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hakimashou posted:Is T-May literally the british Hillary Clinton and J-Corbz the british trump?
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May 25, 2017 23:12
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Sadly looks like one of the folks at the wargames club's going down the islamophobe route. I'm hoping I can see him monday when he's a bit calmer and talk some sense into him. Pity how the far right always seems to be around to offer a wrong answer before someone can bring up facts.
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May 25, 2017 23:13
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TACD posted:Somebody I usually consider fairly level–headed has done a Facebook post complaining about articles from the Canary being 'fake news' — it's obviously got a fairly lefty slant but AFAIK it's don't published anything that qualifies as 'fake'. Am I wrong? The Canary is not a good source for the truth but no worse than any other tabloid. It's just coming from the opposite direction so pundits give it more derision.
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May 25, 2017 23:13
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Don't get me wrong I hope corbyn wins. For one thing, my one close british friend is an arch-tory. When he was in university he kept a framed charcoal or pencil sketch of Margaret Thatcher on his desk, which his grandfather, another arch-tory, had loving drawn in years past. I think he signed up as a labour supporter or whatever to vote for corbyn in the leadership election, on the firm belief that he was sowing the seeds of the labour party's destruction, and I reminded him that the republicans had had the same idea with Obama over here. If labour loses narrowly though... there can be no forgiving corbyn snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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May 25, 2017 23:14
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Gorn Myson posted:If May wins the next election I'll obviously be upset but at least we all saw that coming. If Corbyn becomes PM though, I'm going to lose faith in humanity altogether if you backtrack on your comments in the same way that you did your Brendan Rodgers prediction. I don't know who brendan rodgers is.
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May 25, 2017 23:14
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hakimashou posted:If labour loses narrowly though... there can be no forgiving corbyn snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I'm pretty sure that whatever happens in the rest of this campaign no-one can accuse Corbyn of having snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
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May 25, 2017 23:15
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jabby posted:I cringed hard when Burnham said we need to engage with the Muslim community and 'put the onus on them' to identify potential terrorists. Yeah, if only friends and family members of the Manchester bomber had alerted the security services about their concerns about him. That would have prevented it.
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May 25, 2017 23:16
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hakimashou posted:I don't know who brendan rodgers is.
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May 25, 2017 23:16
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Gorn Myson posted:This is pedantry Mr Flaps. We all look up to you and you let us down. We need strong and stable leadership in these times and you lead us astray. that's not Flaps
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May 25, 2017 23:16
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Gorn Myson posted:This is pedantry Mr Flaps. We all look up to you and you let us down. We need strong and stable leadership in these times and you lead us astray. I'm not pissflaps.
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May 25, 2017 23:16
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Gorn Myson posted:This is pedantry Mr Flaps. We all look up to you and you let us down. We need strong and stable leadership in these times and you lead us astray. How is not knowing who Brendan Rodgers is pedantry?
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May 25, 2017 23:17
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Pissflaps posted:
I'm shocked at how you managed to figure out that I like anims, when I talk about them, have an av of them, have a rap sheet from adtrw, you're insightful af. Maybe you should think less about me, it's weird.
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May 25, 2017 23:17
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jabby posted:I'm pretty sure that whatever happens in the rest of this campaign no-one can accuse Corbyn of having snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Yeah, he had a lot against him going in. If he retains most of his seats, that's pretty good. If he gains, he can unequivocally argue he's succeeding. Random Integer posted:Yeah, if only friends and family members of the Manchester bomber had alerted the security services about their concerns about him. That would have prevented it. This is why I don't understand the "we need muslims to take the lead in policing people!" thing.
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May 25, 2017 23:18
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Pissflaps posted:How is not knowing who Brendan Rodgers is pedantry? Also if we're giving out Flaps avatars can I have one please.
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May 25, 2017 23:18
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So what did I miss that warranted 1200 posts overnight
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May 25, 2017 23:19
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tithin posted:So what did I miss that warranted 1200 posts overnight 
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May 25, 2017 23:20
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spectralent posted:This is why I don't understand the "we need muslims to take the lead in policing people!" thing. It's easy. The government doesn't want you to think they're indirectly to blame, and as a side effect they benefit from increased social division and votes from people trying to stop the Muslamic threat.
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May 25, 2017 23:20
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tithin posted:So what did I miss that warranted 1200 posts overnight Bomb news, racists, books
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May 25, 2017 23:20
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tithin posted:So what did I miss that warranted 1200 posts overnight Labour are going to win the election and Jeremy Corbyn's going to become president of the united states of europe.
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May 25, 2017 23:21
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Lol, a PCSO hating foreign aid attacking the Tory on the panel. What a world we live in.
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May 25, 2017 23:21
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Just been reminded by Twitter. Theresa May still has to face audience panels.
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May 25, 2017 23:21
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I turned against corbyn when he refused to step down after the brexit and after losing the confidence of his professional colleagues. I'd sort of begun to believe in him before that. If he wins, then good for Britain, the benighted isles will go up quite a few rungs in the Anglosphere Rankings. I have some very serious reservations about him based on his despicable views on NATO, but if he is willing to keep britain as integrated as possible with the EU then that might make up for any damage he does otherwise in terms of international cooperation and institutional strength against the enemies of democratic civilization. If he doesnt win though, and its close, it may well be that the blame is down to his divisive and ineffective leadership and an inability to capitalize on the declining fortunes of the tories. Less than two weeks to go!
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May 25, 2017 23:21
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Racists, and the resurrection of Hope. Also, Pissflaps, what is the minimum requirement for Labour to succeed? The Tories losing their majority? Or labour to be be able to form a agreement for a labour government despite a minority of seats? Or labour to take 326 seats?
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May 25, 2017 23:22
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TACD posted:Somebody I usually consider fairly level–headed has done a Facebook post complaining about articles from the Canary being 'fake news' — it's obviously got a fairly lefty slant but AFAIK it's don't published anything that qualifies as 'fake'. Am I wrong? Steve Topple was pretty much a full on conspiracy theorist who wrote some very dubious articles for them. Otherwise the majority of fake news they were caught out as rewriting and republishing were things that other major publications were caught out by. For the most part they're fine. I don't rate them too highly for their journalism, but there are a lot worse outlets out there.
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May 25, 2017 23:22
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How am I still allowed to post? No justice, no peace
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May 25, 2017 23:22
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Here, have a hot take: https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/867867775322267648
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May 25, 2017 23:23
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Prince John posted:It's easy. The government doesn't want you to think they're indirectly to blame, and as a side effect they benefit from increased social division and votes from people trying to stop the Muslamic threat. It's more the "normal people" doing it who aren't hugely political. I guess most of them just assume that he wasn't investigated by his local community at all.
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May 25, 2017 23:23
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hakimashou posted:I turned against corbyn when he refused to step down after the brexit and after losing the confidence of his professional colleagues. I'd sort of begun to believe in him before that. Please stop calling it "the brexit", it's just brexit.
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May 25, 2017 23:23
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nothing to seehere posted:Racists, and the resurrection of Hope. In my pissflaps voice "a Labour victory"
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Prince John posted:It's easy. The government doesn't want you to think they're indirectly to blame, and as a side effect they benefit from increased social division and votes from people trying to stop the Muslamic threat. I this particular instance its Andy Burnham saying it. Theres no reason for him to take this line beyond it being the kind of vague, empty thing politicians like to say and Andy Burnham is kind of a vague, empty politician.
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May 25, 2017 23:24
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nothing to seehere posted:Racists, and the resurrection of Hope. What a bizarre question. Labour will have 'succeeded' if they're in a position to form a government after the election. Namtab posted:In my pissflaps voice "a Labour victory" See? Even this guy gets it.
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May 25, 2017 23:25
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Can someone post the poll? Not up on guardian auhakimashou posted:I turned against corbyn when he refused to step down after the brexit and after losing the confidence of his professional colleagues. I'd sort of begun to believe in him before that. You're not Pissflaps
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May 25, 2017 23:25
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TheRat posted:Here, have a hot take: I can't loving parse this  Like, sure there's the risk that polling well will make idiots overconfident and not vote in the belief everything's done and dusted, but this is some incoherent bullshit.
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May 25, 2017 23:25
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Gonzo McFee posted:Just been reminded by Twitter. She does? TheRat posted:Here, have a hot take:  the biggest soft-labour "Don't know" I've heard is "I don't mind Corbyn but he's not really going to win, is he?". The amount of people who won't vote for him because he might win is going to be miniscule compared to the amount of people who weren't going to vote for him because he wasn't.
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May 25, 2017 23:26
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If the electorate latches onto the idea that police cuts are bad rather than wanting to make muslims / foreigners lives more lovely in a response to the Manchester attack, and vote Labour in response, I will actually forgive them for Brexit I don't know how I will be able to handle having my faith in humanity restored, but OTOH hope is a lie I mean in a just world the rediculous level of May's hubris in that 2015 speech would tank the election for her but you know
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Random Integer posted:I this particular instance its Andy Burnham saying it. Theres no reason for him to take this line beyond it being the kind of vague, empty thing politicians like to say and Andy Burnham is kind of a vague, empty politician. Andy Burnham's performance tonight is a demonstration of why he would be a poor Labour leader. He attempts to chart a central line through everything, ends up missing the point and pisses everyone off. Case in point: nobody likes Prevent, therefore we should change the name.
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May 25, 2017 23:27
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tithin posted:Can someone post the poll? Not up on guardian au I know I even said so just a few posts up.
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SteelMentor posted:I can't loving parse this There was polling data from earlier in the campaign that people who were hostile to a Corbyn led government were still prepared to vote labour as they thought he had no chance of winning. Tightening polls reduce that effect. You might disagree but it's not incoherent.
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