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Skip My Posts posted:lol it's only 1 month? yeah these guys are like 30-35 too it's not the coaching iirc it's 6 weeks but yeah, not a lot of time. I'd also guess a lot of weight cut failures are also due to it being hard to cut 3-4 times over 6 weeks.
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May 25, 2017 19:26
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at team alpha male justin bucholtz and danny castillo are the smart ones
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May 25, 2017 19:26
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Work Friend Keven posted:I think thats always the case on TUF because no matter how good/bad a coach you are you arent actually changing anyone while they live in a reality tv house with each other for a month Some of the TUF coaches have been like "let's train as hard as possible for all 4 days leading up to a fight," accusing anyone who doesn't work hard as being a pussy, and then their fighters gas and lose
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May 25, 2017 19:29
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Skip My Posts posted:lol it's only 1 month? yeah these guys are like 30-35 too it's not the coaching A month where they are surrounded by cameras and producers and have to stay relatively near weight, no less. Cornering and keeping your guys' mentality sharp is all you can possibly contribute
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May 25, 2017 19:36
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What are the worst TUF coach records so far? Rampage went 1-7 vs Evans. Joanna went 1-7 vs Claudia, and Melendez went 1-7 vs Pettis. Any others?
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May 25, 2017 19:36
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CommonShore posted:What are the worst TUF coach records so far? Rampage went 1-7 vs Evans. Joanna went 1-7 vs Claudia, and Melendez went 1-7 vs Pettis. Any others? Rampage coached two seasons and his fighters won 5 out of 22 bouts, I don't think any other coach beats that
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May 25, 2017 19:43
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mousasi and bisping on ufc tonight or whatever was a great segment
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May 25, 2017 19:46
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Reminder:
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May 25, 2017 19:49
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How badly did the let me bang bro guy lose on TUF this time
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May 25, 2017 21:01
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CommonShore posted:What are the worst TUF coach records so far? Rampage went 1-7 vs Evans. Joanna went 1-7 vs Claudia, and Melendez went 1-7 vs Pettis. Any others? lol no loving way were melendez and pettis coaches
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May 25, 2017 21:20
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It's already been stated but the whole season from arrival to departure is like 35 days. TJ appears to be a better coach overall and he stated he wants to coach when he retires. Cody has done just fine as a coach as well, especially for a fighter who doesn't appear to be that interested in coaching. TJ has better fighters on his team.
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May 25, 2017 21:29
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Dr. Abysmal posted:How badly did the let me bang bro guy lose on TUF this time The fight almost ended in the most surprising (for those that only know Julian Lane as the Let Me Fuckin' Bang Bro guy, which includes me) way, with Lane having Ramsay seriously close to tapping several times. He landed a pretty good shot or two on the feet, and then got Ramsay in a guillotine. Ramsay got out, but then when he shot in for a takedown, he got caught in an even deeper guillotine, his hand hovering to tap and everything. Lane spent so long holding on to it that he burnt his arms out, though, and then he got mounted and hilariously lost by TKO because his mouth piece fell out when he tried to say "I'm alright!"
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May 25, 2017 21:30
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Triticum Guzzler posted:lol no loving way were melendez and pettis coaches the winner of that season was none other than inaugural strawweight champion Carla Esparza
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May 25, 2017 23:43
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DeimosRising posted:A month where they are surrounded by cameras and producers and have to stay relatively near weight, no less. Cornering and keeping your guys' mentality sharp is all you can possibly contribute Thats why Chael was the best coach. Trained with his guys so he knew how they were feeling and spent a lot of time talking to them about the mental aspect of fighting. Then in the fight cornering them to steal rounds and coast where required.
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May 26, 2017 01:35
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They signed goku saki
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May 26, 2017 02:30
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SquirrelGrip posted:They signed goku saki I look forward to fights that feature long winded rants and punches that take two and a half episodes to throw.
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May 26, 2017 02:36
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CommonShore posted:What are the worst TUF coach records so far? Rampage went 1-7 vs Evans. Joanna went 1-7 vs Claudia, and Melendez went 1-7 vs Pettis. Any others? Its probably easier to figure out who the good coaches are. This is all kind of a nonsense anyway. TUF is more about promoting the coaches fight then trying to improve fighters. Unfunny Poster posted:Garbrandt won't sit in his fighters corner and coach, but will sit on the bench with the boys shouting and throwing poo poo around. Meanwhile TJ is with them the whole way through. That said his coaching isn't awful like Shamrocks but his record sure makes it seem that way. Better that he is on bench with the boys then in the corner constantly saying "GET UP" or "Don't be terrible at fighting"
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May 26, 2017 03:03
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Skjorte posted:The fight almost ended in the most surprising (for those that only know Julian Lane as the Let Me Fuckin' Bang Bro guy, which includes me) way, with Lane having Ramsay seriously close to tapping several times. He landed a pretty good shot or two on the feet, and then got Ramsay in a guillotine. Ramsay got out, but then when he shot in for a takedown, he got caught in an even deeper guillotine, his hand hovering to tap and everything. Lane spent so long holding on to it that he burnt his arms out, though, and then he got mounted and hilariously lost by TKO because his mouth piece fell out when he tried to say "I'm alright!" Do they have a wild card slot this season? Is there a chance we could see him bang again?
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May 26, 2017 03:23
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Krustic posted:Do they have a wild card slot this season? Is there a chance we could see him bang again? Yes and Yes. Even TJ seemed ok with him getting another shot.
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May 26, 2017 03:36
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Tyree posted:Yes and Yes. Even TJ seemed ok with him getting another shot. I hope so. I'm about to watch that episode. Hopefully He will be banging again soon.
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May 26, 2017 03:58
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"Be First!" - BJ Penn's advice "Footstomps Drago" - Matt Sera's advice
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May 26, 2017 04:00
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Tyree posted:Yes and Yes. Even TJ seemed ok with him getting another shot. I don't know who else looked good enough for a second wild card chance. I'd consider Lane a lock for it.
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May 26, 2017 04:46
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Tyree posted:Yes and Yes. Even TJ seemed ok with him getting another shot. I saw this as a tongue in cheek "this guy is terrible, please select him again for your wildcard round" type comment.
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May 26, 2017 06:31
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kensei posted:"Be First!" - BJ Penn's advice IIRC Serra was a very valuable corner to Shonie whenever his fight went to the mat. The Comeback season was so good. Rich Franklin's awesome advice to Serra, Shonie losing his mind while confined to the house, Serra getting hit with another Shonie spinning back fist but winning and going on to knock out GSP.
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May 26, 2017 07:10
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Looten Plunder posted:I saw this as a tongue in cheek "this guy is terrible, please select him again for your wildcard round" type comment. I did too, but more as "all of my guys are winning so I dont need to go to bat for any of my fighters to get picked"
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May 26, 2017 07:25
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Goku is going to fight at lhw it seems
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May 26, 2017 08:41
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I was gonna say one group might be "people who want to watch competitive fights" but as a non boxing person my understanding is Pacqiao was pretty washed by the time they fought so maybe that doesn't matter
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May 26, 2017 15:10
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DeimosRising posted:I was gonna say one group might be "people who want to watch competitive fights" but as a non boxing person my understanding is Pacqiao was pretty washed by the time they fought so maybe that doesn't matter "People who want to watch competitive fights" is the smallest fight-buying demographic for a big thing like this. That's the hard core. Name recognition, spectacle, anticipation, a story, and tribalist fans who make an event of the event are what sell big fights. Our big PPV sellers in fight sports always have more than one of those things - GSP has Quebec, Pacquiao has the Philippines, and Conor has Ireland. Floyd has spectacle and name recognition, as did Tyson. The ultra-violence of something like a GGG or a Kovalev fight appeals to the hardcore fans, but that's not what motivates the 3.75 million people who didn't buy Kovalev-Ward but who did buy Floyd-Manny to tune in. And the hardcore fans will buy anything, so it doesn't really pay for the promoters to appeal to them.
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May 26, 2017 15:37
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FishBowlRobot posted:IIRC Serra was a very valuable corner to Shonie whenever his fight went to the mat. Oh, that was not a criticism of either guy, just amusing coaching advice. Serra was the unofficial coach of the Comeback season as you say, and he was also really good as a coach against Matt Hughes. Matt Serra rules.
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May 26, 2017 15:58
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FishBowlRobot posted:Rich Franklin's awesome advice to Serra My favourite part about this is Cote calling it "lemon advice" and I still occasionally use that phrase.
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May 26, 2017 16:23
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DeimosRising posted:I was gonna say one group might be "people who want to watch competitive fights" but as a non boxing person my understanding is Pacqiao was pretty washed by the time they fought so maybe that doesn't matter I think that's underrating Pacquiao. He would be the favourite against any welterweight if they fought tomorrow, he just wouldn't finish like he would have a decade ago. The problem is Floyd is really good and some people like to pretend he isn't vainman fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 16:39
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pac was definitely on the way down when he fought floyd, he also had a badly injured shoulder. marquez had just knocked him dead too i think
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May 26, 2017 16:55
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Floyd in his prime still smokes Manny in his prime.
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May 26, 2017 17:17
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Manny is more exciting
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May 26, 2017 17:19
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JaySB posted:Floyd in his prime still smokes Manny in his prime. agreed
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May 26, 2017 17:39
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in their prime they werent in the same class
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May 26, 2017 17:49
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Bundt Cake posted:in their prime they werent in the same class Correct, Manny Pacquiao reads at an 8th grade level while Floyd can't read at all.
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May 26, 2017 17:53
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i meant weight class!!!
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1st AD posted:Correct, Manny Pacquiao reads at an 8th grade level while Floyd can't read at all. Lol
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