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BiohazrD posted:its a misdemeanor and he won't be convicted he will pay a fine and as long as he doesn't assault someone else in 6-12 months the case will be dismissed Uh, you don't pay a fine unless you're convicted.
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RandomBlue posted:Uh, you don't pay a fine unless you're convicted. Somehow I don't think the mammon snowflake cares about $500. Come to think of it, there's a serious criminal justice issue when a criminal fine is life destroying for one member of society and not even a second thought to another, it's almost as if money corrupts civil institutions or something.
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# ? May 26, 2017 06:41 |
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Wrong thread. Dems are doomed IMO
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# ? May 26, 2017 06:43 |
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RuanGacho posted:Somehow I don't think the mammon snowflake cares about $500. My point was that BiohazrD doesn't understand how the law works, not that it'll matter to the GOP thug.
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# ? May 26, 2017 06:44 |
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Fojar38 posted:So what you're saying is past a certain age everyone becomes a goon? I would vote for Gianforte to come to my house and bodyslam me
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Nonsense posted:God is a Woman A Republican man thinks God is a woman. Nice try, Jim, no-one is buying your "I'm a progressive Republican!" bullshit.
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# ? May 26, 2017 06:46 |
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Can't stump the Trump!
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# ? May 26, 2017 06:51 |
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Casual Query thread: Those in opposition to the Trump administration need a platform to run on, it is largely agreed this means things you are for and not just against, like the evisceration of the public through healthcare "reform". Outside of the deplorable AHCA, what would you like to see (for practical purposes) the DNC run on? What do you think has the best chance of taking the era of Trump down?
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# ? May 26, 2017 06:53 |
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Spaced God posted:Every reporter should interview Gianforte while pointing a gun at him at all times
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# ? May 26, 2017 07:00 |
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RuanGacho posted:Casual Query thread: Universal healthcare. Just do it.
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# ? May 26, 2017 07:00 |
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While wearing taped together glasses.
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# ? May 26, 2017 07:01 |
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Zil posted:While wearing taped together glasses. No just the gun. No need to be cute about it.
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Let's try to maintain some perspective (editor's note: I skipped the last 3 pages) if the state of Montana was a Metropolitan Statistical Area (how the government tracks urban areas) it would be the 52nd most populous at ~1.03mil, landing between two East & West Coast megalopolises: Grand Rapids, MI. & Tulsa, OK edit: just noticed that the wikipedia image has Grand Rapids in both Wyoming & Michigan which is impossible because Wyoming & Michigan are on opposite coasts. highme fucked around with this message at 07:19 on May 26, 2017 |
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Republicans posted:No just the gun. No need to be cute about it. "So much for the tolerant left" he said as he slammed another reporter who was too slow on the draw. Zil fucked around with this message at 07:06 on May 26, 2017 |
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For those curious about how much a loving wastleland most of Montana is in terms of people, look at the county by county votes: http://mtelectionresults.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=FED&map=CTY
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# ? May 26, 2017 07:06 |
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Fojar38 posted:So what you're saying is past a certain age everyone becomes a goon?
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CitizenKain posted:For those curious about how much a loving wastleland most of Montana is in terms of people, look at the county by county votes: 53% turnout for a special election is pretty good.
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# ? May 26, 2017 07:11 |
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RuanGacho posted:Outside of the deplorable AHCA, what would you like to see (for practical purposes) the DNC run on? What do you think has the best chance of taking the era of Trump down? Go big or go home.
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# ? May 26, 2017 07:13 |
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RuanGacho posted:Casual Query thread: End the drug war. Treat addiction as an illness. Decriminalize less than ten days supply. Increase the sentencing for everyone who deals or supplies said drugs. Declare several months of amnesty for any drug users who wish to get help with no consequences. No more jail for merely using drugs. We're currently in a several decade long opioid crisis. Infrastructure spending bill. Jobs, jobs, jobs. If the other party doesn't like it frame it as them hating growth and jobs. End the ongoing persecution of guns and gun owners. I feel like the dems focusing on firearms needlessly riles up republicans. There are probably some wins that can be gained, but after Sandy Hook I don't think the nation is going to get behind sweeping gun control. Any gains will just continue to make gun owners more and more angry. Instead try to address gun violence by going after street crime and by increasing psychiatric care and access to that care. Focus on education and economic development. Repair our international image. Body cams on police while on a beat. Blue lives, black lives, whatever lives, doesn't matter. What matters is that they stay on and if they were intentionally sabotaged the offending officer is fired and not able to be hired again by other departments. So police reform I guess. The focus shouldn't be on any one faction, but making sure that police officers fulfill their duty without abusing the public. Abusers get prosecuted. Those who sabotage their cameras get fired and are unable to be rehired. So in essence a bad apple purge. Also go after civil forfeiture. A lot of these republican states (and others, but mostly red/purple) are being bled dry by police seizing their poo poo. A lot of republicans would give the dems a second look if they're protecting their property. Just to name a few I guess. Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 07:19 on May 26, 2017 |
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Ice Phisherman posted:End the drug war. Treat addiction as an illness. Decriminalize less than ten days supply. Increase the sentencing for everyone who deals or supplies said drugs. Declare several months of amnesty for any drug users who wish to get help with no consequences. No more jail for merely using drugs. We're currently in a several decade long opioid crisis. Gun owners are being persecuted? By who? Are we still talking about the United States?
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Bueno Papi posted:53% turnout for a special election is pretty good. Also there are like 30 precincts left that are super heavy Democratic. Should end up being around a 6.5% loss which is comparable to the KS-4 result.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Gun owners are being persecuted? They feel like they're being persecuted. Every new democratic president or potential democratic congressman represents a threat to their weapons both in real ways and also in imagined ways which motivates them to vote. It's been proven time and time again that gun legislation doesn't work on a national level. However there are problems that feed gun violence. Poverty, street crime and mental illness for example. There are ways to tackle gun violence without stripping people of their guns. It won't be perfect, but nothing is. It will however help ratchet down tensions over guns if dems look at going after the roots of gun violence rather than just take peoples' guns away. Guns are a political football. The republicans are better at kicking it. The best thing to do is to remove said football from play.
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Ice Phisherman posted:They feel like they're being persecuted. Every new democratic president or potential democratic congressman represents a threat to their weapons both in real ways and also in imagined ways which motivates them to vote. It's been proven time and time again that gun legislation doesn't work on a national level. However there are problems that feed gun violence. Poverty, street crime and mental illness for example. There are ways to tackle gun violence without stripping people of their guns. It won't be perfect, but nothing is. It will however help ratchet down tensions over guns if dems look at going after the roots of gun violence rather than just take peoples' guns away. Nothing Democrats can say or do will make them think otherwise. They still think Obama is coming for their guns.
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Ice Phisherman posted:They feel like they're being persecuted. Every new democratic president or potential democratic congressman represents a threat to their weapons both in real ways and also in imagined ways which motivates them to vote. It's been proven time and time again that gun legislation doesn't work on a national level. However there are problems that feed gun violence. Poverty, street crime and mental illness for example. There are ways to tackle gun violence without stripping people of their guns. It won't be perfect, but nothing is. It will however help ratchet down tensions over guns if dems look at going after the roots of gun violence rather than just take peoples' guns away. Proven where? Australia? UK? Those countries with highly successful national gun laws?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Gun owners are being persecuted? I give it a pass as long as we allow eternal shits like Feinstein of the Bad Ideas to continue to be re-elected. We can do something about gun violence but not with that giant albatross loving everything up whenever something subtle is attempted. To be on topic, I think one of the best weapons we can use to destroy the Republican base is a message of "why should businesses be paying for healthcare?" combined with a message in a deep commitment to socialism for everyone, by making infrastructure which lowers business costs (and coincidentally cost of living). To be honest, it almost seems like anything is an option because the republicans are so intellectually bankrupt as a party that all they do is frame everything they're against as something they're for in an infuriatingly effective way and it's time to strike back better and smarter. If you want an example of what I mean "religious freedom" is them being against egalitarian rights. Similarly, we don't really want to give businesses free money or unburden them from their social responsibilities but that's not a winning message with the people we have to get on board. It's widely accepted around here that there are narratives at play in the political sphere, and often pointed out there's no difference between an ironic nazi and a real one ultimately. This is why I embrace the term statist, because fine, call me that, if I succeed in building the worlds greatest infrastructure and healthcare anyway I can't stop Hannity from calling me a monster. But I bet most people won't mind the statist anyway.
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Ice Phisherman posted:They feel like they're being persecuted. Every new democratic president or potential democratic congressman represents a threat to their weapons both in real ways and also in imagined ways which motivates them to vote. It's been proven time and time again that gun legislation doesn't work on a national level. However there are problems that feed gun violence. Poverty, street crime and mental illness for example. There are ways to tackle gun violence without stripping people of their guns. It won't be perfect, but nothing is. It will however help ratchet down tensions over guns if dems look at going after the roots of gun violence rather than just take peoples' guns away. National gun control policies: a noted focal point of the Democratic Party agenda in TYOOL 2017.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. https://youtu.be/5WgUktfdDy4?t=16s This thread
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Illuminti posted:https://youtu.be/5WgUktfdDy4?t=16s Excuse me I am not a wet ponce. I am a dry and extremely boring ponce.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Gun owners are being persecuted? By Dems. It's the truth, and it's a totally pointless way to completely cut off an entire demographic that maybe isn't too thrilled with Republicans but at the very least knows they will protect their 2nd amendment rights. A lot of people are single issue voters, and I think this is the one issue Dems really need to drop if they plan to ever win anything again in this country.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:I find it so funny that you people just don't learn. You seem to think like the world is just or righteous that you deserve some kind of justice. Justice is made by the system we live in. Outside of that system there is none. i agree its time for liberals to start suicide bombings that'll show 'em
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Charliegrs posted:By Dems. It's the truth, and it's a totally pointless way to completely cut off an entire demographic that maybe isn't too thrilled with Republicans but at the very least knows they will protect their 2nd amendment rights. A lot of people are single issue voters, and I think this is the one issue Dems really need to drop if they plan to ever win anything again in this country. Obama's 2 terms were probably the worst 8 years for gun control in decades, so I don't know what the gently caress you're smoking.
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Go full Khmer Rouge and usher in 1000 years of communism.
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Baronash posted:Obama's 2 terms were probably the worst 8 years for gun control in decades, so I don't know what the gently caress you're smoking. Yeah you couldn't buy ammo anywhere because scared 70 year old white dudes were buying everything up because they thought Obummer was gonna take their gunzzzz
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Baronash posted:Obama's 2 terms were probably the worst 8 years for gun control in decades, so I don't know what the gently caress you're smoking. Lol you think the people that were screaming OBUNGLERS GOING TO TAKE ARE GUNS!! Knew that? Anyone with half a a brain knows Obama barely did anything about gun control but unfortunately Dems need to start catering their message a little more towards people with half a brain if they expect to win. And did you see me even mention Obama or his feeble attempts at gun control? I'm speaking about the party platform. Until it becomes "The Democratic party will protect your 2nd amendment rights" we will keep losing in large swaths of the country
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Charliegrs posted:Lol you think the people that were screaming OBUNGLERS GOING TO TAKE ARE GUNS!! Knew that? Anyone with half a a brain knows Obama barely did anything about gun control but unfortunately Dems need to start catering their message a little more towards people with half a brain if they expect to win. Maybe you shouldn't terms like "persecuted" if they haven't actually done anything
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Charliegrs posted:Lol you think the people that were screaming OBUNGLERS GOING TO TAKE ARE GUNS!! Knew that? Anyone with half a a brain knows Obama barely did anything about gun control but unfortunately Dems need to start catering their message a little more towards people with half a brain if they expect to win. Do you really think it matters what the Democrat message is, people who believe that stuff are going to believe it despite reality.
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Charliegrs posted:Lol you think the people that were screaming OBUNGLERS GOING TO TAKE ARE GUNS!! Knew that? Anyone with half a a brain knows Obama barely did anything about gun control but unfortunately Dems need to start catering their message a little more towards people with half a brain if they expect to win. Clinton's position on guns was a carbon copy of Romney's. The party has already capitulated on this, but that isn't going to change the perceptions of single issue voters in Montana.
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Andrast posted:Maybe you shouldn't terms like "persecuted" if they haven't actually done anything Well I wasn't the one that used that word. But I think for those out there that treasure their 2nd amendment rights they do in fact feel persecuted by an entire political party. And changing the party platform needs to be followed by actions. Dem representatives (especially ones in rural states) need to start speaking at NRA conventions just like Republicans currently do and maybe start primaring against more gun control oriented Dems in elections. Of course people are going to be untrusting of these new pro 2nd amendment dems, that's what happens after decades of trying to take away your rights. Change will take time.
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Charliegrs posted:Well I wasn't the one that used that word. But I think for those out there that treasure their 2nd amendment rights they do in fact feel persecuted by an entire political party.
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Baronash posted:Clinton's position on guns was a carbon copy of Romney's. The party has already capitulated on this, but that isn't going to change the perceptions of single issue voters in Montana. This. The republican mind is diseased and can't change. The democrats lost the messaging war a long time ago in a galaxy far far away and we are never, ever going to see a democrat majority again. Vote as hard as you can and do as many droves as you can to try to staunch the bleeding so maybe your children inherit a planet even if their children absolutely wont. that is all you can do.
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