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jBrereton posted:You are always likely to gently caress someone off at any given time if you are sufficiently powerful that you could reasonably have any effect on someone's life (if for no other reason than you didn't prioritise someone else instead). The gently caress does this have to do with anything? Muslims in the west aren't just not prioritized, they're actively vilified at home and can see on live television that their governments have zero regard for muslims abroad. This is literally the perfect breeding ground for radicalization, and removing the foreign policy component will obviously have a clear effect of shrinking the pool of potential recruits for terrorist organizations. TheRat posted:(YouGov live poll) Well, well, well.
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Is this as sinister as it looks? https://twitter.com/carldinnen/status/868052400317378562
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May 26, 2017 11:35
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Firos posted:What quote is that out of curiosity? During a section on the ineffectiveness of the War on Terror, he said 'protecting this country requires us to be strong against terrorism and strong against the causes of terrorism'. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 11:40 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 11:36
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Nah that's Osborn. Do try and keep up.
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TACD posted:What, Mark's mate out of Peep Show? No, that's Usborne. Do try and keep up.
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Tesseraction posted:"You can never stop terrorism so let's not try" -J Brereton, age 5
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Darth Walrus posted:During a section on the ineffectiveness of the War on Terror, he said 'protecting this country require us to be strong against terrorism and strong against the causes of terrorism'. I thought I recognised that! 
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TheRat posted:Is this as sinister as it looks? what do you think they've poisoned the cake or something?
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jBrereton posted:You are always likely to gently caress someone off at any given time if you are sufficiently powerful that you could reasonably have any effect on someone's life (if for no other reason than you didn't prioritise someone else instead). I suspect the west would be seeing slightly less islamic extremism if there was less of a gaping abyss in the memory of the west's failures in the middle east and if those gaping failures hadn't given massive amounts of power to those same people (not just the present power vacuum that created ISIS and allowed them to become the world's biggest terrorist version of mcdonalds, but a long, long history of propping up or arming violent people because it was convinient in the war against the reds that has come back to roost in the past 15 years). Hell, the creation of IS itself can partly be linked to the fact the US created a group of well-armed paramilitaries to help police Iraq, then hosed off and stopped paying them.
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jBrereton posted:It's not that you shouldn't try, because you probably ought to, it's that there will always be one complaint or other for the recruiters of terrorists to blame, so it isn't a good thing to build policy around. You can't really be this goddamn stupid, can you?
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Cerv posted:what do you think they've poisoned the cake or something? There's a leaving date - today.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:No, that's Usborne. Do try and keep up. I thought they did kid's books
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Cerv posted:what do you think they've poisoned the cake or something? It's a P45, they're essentially telling him to step down. It's seems rather threatening to make a cake like that and send it to someone, especially printing all their details on it. It's also the Scum, so I wouldn't be surprised if they hid a mic or something in it.
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Here's how Bernie can still win...
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Oberleutnant posted:
He's got a point, though. I mean, it's not that you shouldn't try to feed children, because you probably ought to, it's that there will always be one complaint or the other for poor people to blame, so it isn't really a good thing to build policy around.
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SteelMentor posted:It's a P45, they're essentially telling him to step down. You'll notice that his NI number reads "AD 1973"
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https://twitter.com/hayfestival/status/867813950863196165 Top bantz from Tories (former) MP for Brecon and Radnorshire Ignoring that for most people in the UK prescriptions aren't free, and aside from that you only get a prescription if your GP thinks you need the medicine. Nobody is taking anti-depressants for the buzz you get from them
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jBrereton posted:It's not that you shouldn't try, because you probably ought to, it's that there will always be one complaint or other for the recruiters of terrorists to blame, so it isn't a good thing to build policy around. You know whatever our disagreements before I still thought you had brain cells to rub together. Now,
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Cerebral Bore posted:The gently caress does this have to do with anything? Muslims in the west aren't just not prioritized, they're actively vilified at home and can see on live television that their governments have zero regard for muslims abroad. This is literally the perfect breeding ground for radicalization, and removing the foreign policy component will obviously have a clear effect of shrinking the pool of potential recruits for terrorist organizations. At that point you start getting the EDL and all that lot complaining that It's Illegal To Be English Nowadays etc. and kicking off (and let's face it, Brexit, which was more or less caused by English people feeling bad, is probably going to be more damaging than any prior terrorist attack on this country). And then if you start making them your focus with pandering nationalist rhetoric the rUK all spins out and bits fly off the country and all sorts and it's just one of them. We've seen what a couple of years of entirely reactive policy will do and it's a bit of a disaster, really. So while I agree that reducing the amount of wars going on and that is good just on a moral level and as a way to move the discourse away from hasty violence, doing it to reduce the sum amount of terrorism seems a bit spurious.
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/hayfestival/status/867813950863196165 Ah yes, I only take my life-saving asthma medication and anti-depressents because they're 'free'. Tories get te gently caress.
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spectralent posted:I suspect the west would be seeing slightly less islamic extremism if there was less of a gaping abyss in the memory of the west's failures in the middle east and if those gaping failures hadn't given massive amounts of power to those same people (not just the present power vacuum that created ISIS and allowed them to become the world's biggest terrorist version of mcdonalds, but a long, long history of propping up or arming violent people because it was convinient in the war against the reds that has come back to roost in the past 15 years). You forgot "fire the entire Iraqi army overnight" which might have had something to do with it as well
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TheRat posted:May is incredibly arrogant. She thought she would win on a walkover and literally didn't try. They didn't have any campaign material ready when she called the election, and as a result the manifesto is an unmitigated disaster. She's Hillary Clintoning the poo poo out of this forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/hayfestival/status/867813950863196165 He's my MP and yes he is a top level oval office. I hope he loses his seat so bad
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jBrereton posted:OK let's say the UK government somehow manages to patch things up in that whole neck of the woods and repair relations with the muslim community, that would be groovy if a little unlikely. This is very dumb, my friend are you alright? E to be less of a dick. 7/7 was the last time I felt rage or despair over terrorism and I wanted to kill the bad men. Then I realised that it was pretty clearly because we'd gone into iraq. Since then we've attacked, what, 4 countries? We never ever stopped the things that were clearly putting us in danger so now terrorist attacks just make me glance up and go "yeah, makes sense, seems like a thing a terrorist oval office would do". Once we stop blasting our dick into every last wasps nest maybe your argument will make sense. Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 11:58 on May 26, 2017 |
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/hayfestival/status/867813950863196165 ahh i love getting high off all this free NHS medication that i take just for the sake of it. how can you be an MP and not know this poo poo works? drat.
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Lovechop posted:ahh i love getting high off all this free NHS medication that i take just for the sake of it. The requirements of being an MP select for people who are out of touch not against.
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TheRat posted:Is this as sinister as it looks? I read that as HM Revenge & Customs so it seemed more sinister at first.
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Lovechop posted:ahh i love getting high off all this free NHS medication that i take just for the sake of it. One could say it's a requirement, rather than a detriment for the average Tory MP.
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Oberleutnant posted:get in the bin I suppose it was a bit oblique
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jBrereton posted:OK let's say the UK government somehow manages to patch things up in that whole neck of the woods and repair relations with the muslim community, that would be groovy if a little unlikely. The only thing hotter than this take is the sweaty-rear end weather outside. None of this is grounded in reality.
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MikeCrotch posted:You forgot "fire the entire Iraqi army overnight" which might have had something to do with it as well I had thought the Iraqi army were re-hired during reconstruction?
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Lt. Danger posted:I suppose it was a bit oblique It was only on the second reading I realised you were taking the piss outta jihadbrereton
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jBrereton posted:OK let's say the UK government somehow manages to patch things up in that whole neck of the woods and repair relations with the muslim community, that would be groovy if a little unlikely. Of all the hot takes in the world your idea that social alienation is a zero-sum game is a top contender for the absolutely dumbest. Congratulations.
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Getting high as gently caress off these pills that mostly just make my dick not work
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spectralent posted:I had thought the Iraqi army were re-hired during reconstruction? Those were new recruits, as I recall a vast portion of the regime army took to insurgency.
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