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Dick Trauma posted:The right are dismantling the means of ever swinging that pendulum back again. They've normalized every single form of aberrant behavior demonstrated by Trump and their other candidates, including violence against women and reporters. They've normalized treason. They've normalized consigning literally millions of Americans to death. Yeah, they're trying, but it's a desperate effort by a shrinking coalition that knows it can no longer win by numbers alone. It seems like anyone's guess as to whether crooked tactics and entrenched power will ultimately dominate the majority will of the country
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RuanGacho posted:No, it's civil war when this empty bluster means they're going to die next time someone is able to take a shot at them. It's a relatively cold civil war at the moment but it is definitely a civil war.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Realistically its races like the one they just lost in Montana that the Dems have to be winning in order for a super majority, or probably even "only" a majority, in the House/Senate to be assured in 2018. kartikeya posted:Normalizing mental health care in that fashion and getting society to the point where we think of mental illness like gum disease is about as big of a job as fixing all of society's other issues. The reality is that there isn't a way to stop it completely, any more than there's any way to stop, say, terrorism from ever happening. All we can do is push for things that will reduce it as much as possible without giving up all of our freedom and privacy to do so. Where exactly that line lies is something we all have to figure out (and good luck on that one). I had to study figures from my university's mental health counseling office. The past 5 or so years have seen a dramatic uptick in students utilizing those services, to the point where the school now has to contract out to other companies in order to handle the demand. My professor likes to jack off about  "kids these days lack resiliency," but I personally see it as the growing normalization of mental health issues. I think we're headed in the right direction, and it may not be as much about changing hearts and minds as it is waiting for old fogies to nod off.
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RuanGacho posted:No, it's civil war when this empty bluster means they're going to die next time someone is able to take a shot at them. Yeah not to dismiss what happened to Jacobs but before the actual civil war we had, there was a much more violent and infamous incident involving a cane. It was murderous assault taking place in the US Senate itself. It sets a pretty high precedent I think. Until something like that happens, I'm not too worried about what I'll do here in Texas if civil war breaks out.
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Senju Kannon posted:you can't diagnose someone from their public appearances, and anyone who says they can doesn't have much of a professional reputation to begin with Diagnose obviously not, but if you spend a lot of time around elderly patients you get to learn to see the warning signs and changes in personality quite well. The confusion and slowly declining cognition can be masked quite well by patients, but the personality changes can be very recognizable. Just my empty thoughts on the matter, but if he is declining and has that waxing and waning functionality you see in early dementia, it would also explain why the most attention seeking man in America is suddenly retreating to his resort for long stretches of time.
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punched my v-card at camp posted:You're absolutely right, the fact that the Democratic party has consistently had success competing in statewide races in Montana, including Senate elections, has absolutely no bearing on their ability to win a statewide election in Montana. They're totally different! The Democratic Montana governor won in 2016 with less than 4% against a prototypical GOP candidate while in the very same election, in the very same region, the GOP congressman won by 16. Then, 6 months later, the guy who narrowly lost the gubernational election went up against an off-brand, politically unknown candidate and won. That's totally the same thing. Also, the DNC should have invested a huge amount of it's war chest because apparently marginal returns isn't a thing and Montana's at large seat is super important in the broader context beyond a Dem feel good moment. Hint: the GOP passed a horrible bill WITHOUT that seat filled. gently caress off dude. Anyway, Im going to bed, so you can continue to not post in here until 2018. Boon fucked around with this message at 16:48 on May 26, 2017 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/868098467079495680 And again, thank you for these posts, PPJ.
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Baronash posted:What are you talking about? This was a blood red district and it came within 7 points. If every race in 2018 mimics that shift, Democrats are gearing up for the biggest representational shift in generations. This is the dumbest "nothing matters" post I've seen. That's a pretty big if. Unless GOP politicians choke-slamming reporters becomes a very frequent occurrence, it's pretty stupid to expect the shift to be realized nationwide.
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NikkolasKing posted:Yeah not to dismiss what happened to Jacobs but before the actual civil war we had, there was a much more violent and infamous incident involving a cane. It was murderous assault taking place in the US Senate itself. The political opponents of the higher population areas believe they're some sort of self made and sustaining ubermench but they need look no further then the Oregon wildlife refuge incident as to what will happen when people are not trying to send them 5lb bags of sugarless gummy bears and dildos and just instead telling them to gently caress off. We are in a cultural war for sure, but they are going to lose. RuanGacho fucked around with this message at 16:46 on May 26, 2017 |
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Hollismason posted:Didn't they do that in FLorida and find that it was incredibly cost prohibitive? It's a giant waste and just serves to fill the pockets of testing companies. Poor people can't afford.drugs. the false positive rate alone is gonna get.people killed due to lack of necessary medical care.
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enraged_camel posted:That's a pretty big if. I don't expect the shift to be realized nationwide, (though it's worth pointing out that the shift is pretty consistent in early voting numbers as well) I'm replying to his assertion that winning this district in Bumblefuck, MT was a barometer for the Democratic Party's chances in 2018.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:Hillary should of decked a reporter Unironically this. Hillary laying out Chris Cilliza would've at least meant he wouldn't be writing more EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS EMAILS poo poo until he woke up. fsif posted:https://twitter.com/yashar/status/867935997715075073 It's gonna be awesome once Sinclair owns 80% or so of all local broadcasting since they're ramping up their acqusitions and tens of millions of voters will never see anything negative about conservatives and everything negative about their opponents prior to elections. They're easily as evil as Fox News, if not moreso, but much better at not coming across as blatantly in the tank for the GOP. Pakled posted:Well, I wouldn't say Georgia is "looking good" as in Ossoff has an advantage. It's a dead heat right now. Ossoff is going to lose. The next several weeks will have the full focus of the GOP turned to that race now that Montana's over and as good as Ossoff is doing the fact remains that the area is a very red district (R+8, over 70% white) in a state whose government will run interference for the GOP without hesitation. Considering Gianfonte would've liked won with over a 10% margin of victory had it only been a two person race, Georgia's turnout from Dems would need to blow Montana (and Kansas) out of the water. Hieronymous Alloy posted:People still watch local news?!? Local news viewership blows cable news viewership out of the water and local news is seen as extremely trustworthy compared to cable news. Sinclair being a near/total monopoly on local news coverage can easily cause a several point shift in elections just through its skewed coverage. Office Pig posted:Oh look, the polling places in Fulton have been shaken up. Oh hey, the state government is running interference. What a shock.
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Captain Invictus posted:Goddamn. I do like that the other guys at first try to say something but realize he's on a roll and just let him monologue. I don't really know this Joe guy but regardless of his affiliation, that's some sound, salient talk he's spittin' there for the most part. He SUCKS.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Trump's USDA and Department of HHS have given Scott Walker approval to require drug testing for all Wisconsin residents on food stamps, Medicaid, or unemployment insurance. Now where does Wisconsin rank out of all 50 states on where not to live in America?
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RuanGacho posted:People aren't going to trust local news anymore if Sinclair goes through with their plans. Fox News is still the most trusted cable news channel and in the top 5 for most trusted news source altogether.
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RuanGacho posted:People aren't going to trust local news anymore if Sinclair goes through with their plans. Yeah, nobody "trusts" Fox News, America's most trusted news channel, at the moment either, right?
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...tm_source=atltwquote:The Trump Organization Says It's 'Not Practical' to Comply With the Emoluments Clause
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TyroneGoldstein posted:This is a fantastic post. My uncle has been taking care of my Aunt, who had early onset, for almost 20 years at this point. I would never wish it on anyone, even the President and I don't like how I see certain undercurrents going on with even good people almost not resisting the urge to get a shot in on this one. Trump is a contemptible piece of poo poo, but him going through that ordeal as President is real sad and absolutely loving terrifying for all of us at the same time. Part of why I hate him so is that he made me want him to suffer. I hate that he was able to affect me that way. I don't hate anyone, but I do hate him and I consider it a violation of my mind and spirit that he changed me that way. I will always hold it against him.
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enraged_camel posted:Unless GOP politicians choke-slamming reporters becomes a very frequent occurrence, it's pretty stupid to expect the shift to be realized nationwide. This is a really bad post if you actually follow the thread for a lot of reasons. 1) The chokeslam had marginal impact due to early voting and no-change restriction 2) It's already a trend nationwide. That's not the question, the question is, what's driving it and will it continue.
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It's also not practical for republicans to practice oversight. Makes sense.
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Kaboobi posted:Yeah, nobody "trusts" Fox News, America's most trusted news channel, at the moment either, right? Most people don't. Those that do wouldn't trust anything to the left of them anyways.
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Wow, great stuff. Unfortunately he's going to have to wait for a real leader that can unite the country but in this political climate that could be a long time.
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You're not wrong about Fox news but television itself is losing effectiveness. When was the last time you took a local news story seriously? I'm going to be surprised if the dynamics of local reporting dont significantly change as local government entities gain the ability to connect directly with constituents.
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I mean they're being honest.
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's gonna be awesome once Sinclair owns 80% or so of all local broadcasting since they're ramping up their acqusitions and tens of millions of voters will never see anything negative about conservatives and everything negative about their opponents prior to elections. They're easily as evil as Fox News, if not moreso, but much better at not coming across as blatantly in the tank for the GOP. In a saner world, the FTC and FCC would block this, but they certainly aren't going to under this administration, and of course Sinclair is going to be doing their best in the meantime to make sure that situation continues.
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Citizen's United is AWESOME! https://twitter.com/level39/status/867405510663974914 e: I'm the Support To Ensure Victory Everywhere Pac-Steve.
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There Bias Two posted:Apparently it's acceptable to ignore the Constitution if it's inconvenient. They're anti-American through and through. Could you imagine the alternate timeline where Hillary Clinton says it is too difficult to reveal her foreign money ties, the white house would be on fire right now.
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aware of dog posted:Isn't blanket drug testing for government benefits unconstitutional? I'd be very surprised if it was, since the Constitution doesn't really address benefits or drugs, both being largely unknown back then.
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Baronash posted:I think we're headed in the right direction, and it may not be as much about changing hearts and minds as it is waiting for old fogies to nod off. Society, like science, advances one funeral at a time.
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aware of dog posted:Isn't blanket drug testing for government benefits unconstitutional? Supreme Court has never ruled on it. It's been struck down in federal courts because the Obama administration opposed and the benefits were implemented by the state, but the program was paid for and jointly run by the federal government. Other courts have also ruled that it could be interpreted as an unwarranted search.
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RuanGacho posted:You're not wrong about Fox news but television itself is losing effectiveness. Local tire shop fails to rotate tires after claiming it had. We went undercover to investigate. Tune in at 10 to WSGTTBFOXTV63 for the latest breaking news. BarbarianElephant posted:I'd be very surprised if it was, since the Constitution doesn't really address benefits or drugs, both being largely unknown back then. Thomas Jefferson was addicted to laudanum, I think. Fitzy Fitz fucked around with this message at 17:03 on May 26, 2017 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:I'd be very surprised if it was, since the Constitution doesn't really address benefits or drugs, both being largely unknown back then. The Florida drug testing program was declared unconstitutional several years ago because it violated the 4th amendment.
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Confounding Factor posted:Now where does Wisconsin rank out of all 50 states on where not to live in America? Pretty high, the rust belt is a shithole and things are only getting worse
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People need to really get it out of their heads that there are "sane" or "good" Republicans if somehow the last sixteen years hasn't made that super clear.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:jesus christ is that real? i always though norquest was one of the "sane" ones. Drown the federal government in a bathtub guy? Same?
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