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rudatron posted:A media landscape dictated by a small number of media conglomerates is effectively equivalent to a totalitarian control of the press, by any metric you care to use. so, uh, you don't know anything about totalitarianism, huh? or anything else?
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May 26, 2017 09:17
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Say something meaningful, I'm not interested in interrogating your vapid 'impressions' that you mistake for insight.
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May 26, 2017 09:24
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OK, what you said was laughable even by your standards. go back to posting trolley problems about which you have no particular insights.
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May 26, 2017 09:25
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if you think the media landscape in America is effectively equivalent by any metric that one might care to choose to that of fascist Italy, you are dumber than a particularly dumb bag of rocks.
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May 26, 2017 09:29
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baloogan posted this earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM
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May 26, 2017 09:34
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Media conglomerates self censor to preserve their diverse business interacts, tow the 'party line' of the ruling elite, are under the supreme editorial control of a very small number of people (who are unaccountable, and themselves encultured into said elite, and in the case of Murdoch, highly ideological), and are today practicing less and less actual journalism, in favor or republishing press releases from the government or lobbyists.
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May 26, 2017 09:40
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ok, now list all the metrics by which they are not equivalent. i mean, not that any of those things were metrics per se, more qualities stated in vague terms. and if vague qualities is all you need, boy howdy, it will blow your mind how dissimilar the American press is from the fascist press!
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May 26, 2017 09:54
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The American media landscape being effectively equivalent to the media landscape of Stalinist Russia is true in the sense that the American party duopoly is effectively equivalent to a one party state. Which is true, in the sense that a one party state is equivalent to an absolute monarchy. Which is true, in the sense that an absolute monarchy is equivalent to an oligarchic/aristocratic republic. Which is true... Either you're speaking in generalities that mean nothing, or what you said was laughably stupid.
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May 26, 2017 10:02
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you guys certainly got all your vaccinations
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May 26, 2017 10:03
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Why do you believe that a 'duopoly' is distinct from 'totalitarian'? Today, both sides are simply representing different members of the elite, each with their own prejudices. But both are conjoined by their class interest. It's actually a lot more sophisticated then the scheme of fascist Italy, which sought to bring everything into one 'side'. What you have instead, is a perpetual 'changing of the guard', making promises of monumental change, but delivering none. Both sides are subsumed and subservient to the same totalizing system, cogs in the same machine. The result: nothing ever changes. That is the 'effectively equivalent' you're looking for. From the standpoint of the liberal ideal, of bad ideas being pushed out by good, of a diversity of thought, that is, the experience of the system from a practical, user-facing perspective, the result is the same.
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May 26, 2017 10:17
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Baloogan posted:you guys certainly got all your vaccinations I just inject mercury directly into my eyeballs fortnightly to keep the chemtrails off.
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May 26, 2017 10:23
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rudatron posted:Why do you believe that a 'duopoly' is distinct from 'totalitarian'? Today, both sides are simply representing different members of the elite, each with their own prejudices. But both are conjoined by their class interest. This is about the crudest class analysis possible; it does not rise to the level of the most vulgar Marxism. That's not how class works. Even if you can't be bothered to read anything else, you can surely read The 18th Brumaire. I'm not going to address your general "1984 but with liberals" thesis because lol. Jesus Christ.
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May 26, 2017 10:36
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ScrubLeague posted:I just inject mercury directly into my eyeballs fortnightly to keep the chemtrails off. yeah ill need a hit off that mercury syringe when ur done with it
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May 26, 2017 10:39
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tet anus
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May 26, 2017 10:52
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:This is about the crudest class analysis possible; it does not rise to the level of the most vulgar Marxism. That's not how class works. Even if you can't be bothered to read anything else, you can surely read The 18th Brumaire. Do you have anything to contribute or are you just making sure we know how smart you are
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May 26, 2017 12:02
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:the marketplace of ideas has resulted in enormous growth in LGBT acceptance and support for LGBT rights over the past two decades.
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May 26, 2017 14:10
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Dapper_Swindler posted:surprised this hasnt been posted yet. it still looks like they're in a loving jungle and there will probably be reskinned leopards
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May 26, 2017 14:11
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hey guys, just because there's some big media companies in the united states, this means it's exactly equivalent to totalitarian state control of all media outlets, also https://mobile.twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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May 26, 2017 14:13
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Neither of those things are good
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May 26, 2017 14:29
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Neither of those things are good one is demonstrably better than the other though unless you have an extreme ideology-induced mental handicap
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May 26, 2017 14:32
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I guess it's all good then
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May 26, 2017 14:34
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:I guess it's all good then hey man stop attacking media conglomerates, you're being so dumb right now stop that, stop being so dumb remember that fox news is not actually hitler and is therefore cool and good
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May 26, 2017 15:02
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Leave fox news alone!
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May 26, 2017 15:05
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:it still looks like they're in a loving jungle and there will probably be reskinned leopards We call them cougars out West. Personally I'm looking forward to befriending a moose.
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May 26, 2017 15:09
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oh man fox news sure is bad. xinhua on the other hand? much worse
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May 26, 2017 15:11
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friend, I dont just accept bad things as not so bad because worse things exist. Sorry.
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May 26, 2017 15:14
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the global times is 100000% better as a source of info than any murdoch owned rag
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May 26, 2017 15:17
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sneakyfrog posted:friend, I dont just accept bad things as not so bad because worse things exist. Sorry. that's great and lovely but rudatron was arguing that actually the worse thing is the better thing hth
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May 26, 2017 15:17
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:that's great and lovely but rudatron was arguing that actually the worse thing is the better thing hth didnt realize that weirdness was what you were responding to, my apologies
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May 26, 2017 15:20
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it seems like what is allowed to be read is just as relevant as what is allowed to be printed no one is going to arrest you for reading settlers or the rhizzone but the fascist secret police in italy probably would have arrested you for reading l'unita
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May 26, 2017 15:25
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Newspapers suck.
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May 26, 2017 15:41
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Ace of Baes posted:Newspapers suck. i use them to line bird cages!!!!
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May 26, 2017 15:44
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I get all my news from tweets referencing dril tweets or the simpsons
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May 26, 2017 16:00
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Dril tweet meme on it's last legs
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May 26, 2017 16:25
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:it still looks like they're in a loving jungle and there will probably be reskinned leopards well montana does have cougars. anyway trailer and info came out. seems to be more of a christian doomsday cult ISIS deal then a race based alt/hard right deal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdaoe4hbMso
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May 26, 2017 17:41
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Dapper_Swindler posted:well montana does have cougars. They look ripped straight from the FLDS Cult.
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May 26, 2017 17:47
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Baloogan posted:you guys certainly got all your vaccinations :fishpop:
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May 26, 2017 18:04
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kinda feel like shooting a buncha virtual christian cultist rednecks now
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May 26, 2017 18:05
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:kinda feel like shooting a buncha virtual christian cultist rednecks now Just play any shooter and leave voice chat on.
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Media oligopolies are in a sense far more insidious than state-run censorship regimes, because there's always going to be lib dipshits like Bulgogi Hoagie running interference for the Murdochs of the world.
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