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weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



BeigeJacket posted:

This is going to sound unbelievably dim, but I still can't figure out this discord nonsense you lot talked me into.

I see this - http://imgur.com/a/USWKR

where are the loving messages?

that is extremely fuckin weird. were you the guy yesterday who also had his game video going all black?

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Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!
Same n PS4 for the last hour and a half. Also it downloaded a patch 1.01 .

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

weekly font posted:

that is extremely fuckin weird. were you the guy yesterday who also had his game video going all black?

No, only downloaded the game a few hours ago.

edit: oh, it was my ad/comment blocker

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


El Cid posted:

Is the sweater a grab escape? Could an in-the-know Jason just avoid it entirely by using his melee weapon instead?

I think when they press q when you're close enough it forces you into a stalled attack animation.

Homeroom Fingering
Apr 25, 2009

The secret history (((they))) don't want you to know

weekly font posted:

that is extremely fuckin weird. were you the guy yesterday who also had his game video going all black?

No that was me. I think it was just a bug because the hud still showed and the teleport map came up correctly but the regular screen was all black.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

weekly font posted:

that is extremely fuckin weird. were you the guy yesterday who also had his game video going all black?

That was me as a counselor. Luckily I still had the minimap so I could chase after Jason to become a distraction.

edit: Common bug I guess.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Hey I'm not ready to pull the trigger on this quite yet despite watching some beta gameplay. Are there any good Twitch streams of the full game to help me decide? I ask because I have a really low tolerance for obnoxious streamers. Thanks!

Queering Wheel
Jun 18, 2011


Server's back up on PC!

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
PS4 server up as well.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.
Seems like the game has some technical issues, but is it fun?

Caros
May 14, 2008

weekly font posted:

Goddamn wish you recorded that! Sounds like it went down in the intense and rare way the devs clearly intended.


99% of the time that scenario will go like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP2srO7RpeM


quote:

just like in reality, the girl nearly gets you killed.

"i.... i... i don't know what to do!?"
"shoot him! he's... killing.... me. SHOOT HIM!"
*closes eyes, pulls trigger*


Funny enough, I also had this match last night as well.

Got gas, keys and a battery all in three cabin directly around the four seater. Fixed it up in record time with no molestation from Jason. Was a bit of a drive, but it was looking good.

We called down the other players by radio, and three came running, which wasn't great for a four seater car. Of course they weren't exactly masters of stealth so jason solved our numbers problem on the way.

I start driving to meet them and there is jason in the middle of the road. I dodge around him, get the car onto the bridge and stop to let the others catch up. Jarvis is there so all he has to do is shoot jason and we are gone.

He shoots the other player in the face.

Well, poo poo. Okay. Not ideal. I figure we will just drive off and save ourselves. Jarvis is hosed without a weapon and with jason right there. But the French girl in the car is screaming at me to stop. She has a gun, she will shoot jason, and we'll all drive off. I stop, get out so I can see what is going on.

Just in time to watch her shoot Tommy in the face.

Yeah, so at that point I got back in the car and left her to die.

Caros fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 26, 2017

Unbalanced
Sep 29, 2005

ComposerGuy posted:

People whining about $40 are the worst.

Like, games costs $50 in the late 80s/early 90s and that was 1990 money!

That's what is going to eventually kill indie gaming. This idea that if you're an indie studio, you are somehow obligated to price your games below 30 bucks.

My lawn has had enough of these loving kids.

I was merely stating that I almost never buy games at release, with multiplayer games where the experience changes over time being the rare exception. I do worry that the price is going to scare away potential buyers and hurt the game's future prospects. This is totally whining.

Also yes, let's compare the cost of physical cartridge and CD games oftentimes packed to the brim with hours upon hours of fresh content to a digitally distributed multiplayer game that was crowdfunded for close to 900 grand and features a few maps and lots of bugs. These are absolutely the same thing.

"But muh indie gaming :qq:" You're dumb.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!
In on PS4. Hiding under a bed lol I have no idea what I am doing.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Knifegrab posted:

Seems like the game has some technical issues, but is it fun?

Very. There are a handful of annoying glitches and one or two round enders, but a match is no more than twenty minutes, so even if Thst happens you only have to wait a little bit.

So far the worst glitch in the game IMHO is the one where you accidentally pull a door closed behind you and end up outside of the house you were trying to enter.

There is also a glitch with jason where you can teleport through a locked door by drawing throwing knives as you hatchet it, but it's hard as hell to do and should be fixed promptly.

Unbalanced
Sep 29, 2005

Knifegrab posted:

Seems like the game has some technical issues, but is it fun?

I'm having a lot of fun with it. It doesn't exactly have universal appeal and some people will hate how slow the matches get sometimes, but if it the formula works for you it works well.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Queering Wheel posted:

Server's back up on PC!

Not on my end. Canadian servers must still be down.

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Unbalanced posted:

Also yes, let's compare the cost of physical cartridge and CD games oftentimes packed to the brim with hours upon hours of fresh content to a digitally distributed multiplayer game that was crowdfunded for close to 900 grand and features a few maps and lots of bugs. These are absolutely the same thing.

"But muh indie gaming :qq:" You're dumb.

A budget of less than a million pretty much is indie gaming these days. To put that in perspective, mid-size studios are around 50-75 people with a budget of $25 million for a game.

BillBear
Mar 13, 2013

Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.
I've played the beta and STILL have no idea how to use stealth.

One of the matches I played, I was punk girl and was the last one left and was just crouched going slowly up a road, not in the wilderness or anything and Jason still ended up finding me.

I've heard if done right stealth can be insanely effective but I'm usually one of the first ones to die. What gives? What do I do? The game's loving awesome though, great fun.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

BillBear posted:

I've played the beta and STILL have no idea how to use stealth.

One of the matches I played, I was punk girl and was the last one left and was just crouched going slowly up a road, not in the wilderness or anything and Jason still ended up finding me.

I've heard if done right stealth can be insanely effective but I'm usually one of the first ones to die. What gives? What do I do? The game's loving awesome though, great fun.

the problem is your fear. if you stay in the dark woods for too long your fear goes up, which is what gives Jason the ability to sense you. cutting through the woods is very effective to transit some place, but it's not maintainable. also, don't forget to turn your light on. jason navigates primarily via sense and sound, so your flashlight will not affect your visibility too much and it reduces your fear when it's on.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Coolguye posted:

the problem is your fear. if you stay in the dark woods for too long your fear goes up, which is what gives Jason the ability to sense you. cutting through the woods is very effective to transit some place, but it's not maintainable. also, don't forget to turn your light on. jason navigates primarily via sense and sound, so your flashlight will not affect your visibility too much and it reduces your fear when it's on.

Yes. Repairing/destroying power boxes should be more of a priority no matter which side your on. If your character is freaked the gently caress out (their face is the fear meter), a few minutes in a lit house is chicken soup for the soul.

BillBear
Mar 13, 2013

Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.

Coolguye posted:

the problem is your fear. if you stay in the dark woods for too long your fear goes up, which is what gives Jason the ability to sense you. cutting through the woods is very effective to transit some place, but it's not maintainable. also, don't forget to turn your light on. jason navigates primarily via sense and sound, so your flashlight will not affect your visibility too much and it reduces your fear when it's on.

Ah this makes sense! Thanks.

Also the new Jason ability (which cuts off the alert music as long as you can't see him) is scary as poo poo. I was just minding my own business in one of the cabins and there's no dramatic " OH poo poo" music so I'm thinking I'm safe. Suddenly Jason walks through the door and a very jolly Russian guy shouts down mic" HELLO!". Almost died in real life.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Caros posted:

So last night I managed what was probably one of the first ever 'legit' jason kills (i.e. Not one where he stands there and intentionally let's you do it.)

Got murdered like... Ten seconds into the round by jason. He jumped to my cabin, one of the lovely ones with just one side window and one front window. Trapped one window, broke down the door and speared me through the face when I tried to run.

Pondered quitting for the night, but eh. gently caress it. Spectate half the map until suddenly, Tommy Jarvis time! I book it across the map, get scared by finding my own corpse and find a tank of gas. Car is otherwise ready to go so I fill the tank, hop in and we start driving.

On the way we stop to save another girl, and jason takes the opportunity to wreck the car.

Driver gets grabbed, and I start macheteing Jason in the back. We are hosed in my mind, but maybe I can hero Jarvis long enough for someone to hop in the car and escape.

His mask pops off (part 6 is an ugly mofo) and I grab it. Cool, I've wounded him, maybe that can... No loving way.

The girl we picked up is wearing the sweater. She does not know how to kill jason. I just barely break out of a grab kill and keep swinging while literally shouting over voice chat for her to loving press q. Eventually she does, I murder jason, three of us survive.

Jason is pissed over voice chat.

This rules.

I'm worried that by the time I get around to buying and playing, this game will be all figured out and moments like this will become more frequent and less awesome.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Servers are down again.

BillBear
Mar 13, 2013

Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.

AndyElusive posted:

This rules.

I'm worried that by the time I get around to buying and playing, this game will be all figured out and moments like this will become more frequent and less awesome.

Sounds like you need Jason to be heavily wounded, Tommy to be on the scene and possibly his mum's sweater? Sounds tricky to pull off to me.

Caros
May 14, 2008

BillBear posted:

I've played the beta and STILL have no idea how to use stealth.

One of the matches I played, I was punk girl and was the last one left and was just crouched going slowly up a road, not in the wilderness or anything and Jason still ended up finding me.

I've heard if done right stealth can be insanely effective but I'm usually one of the first ones to die. What gives? What do I do? The game's loving awesome though, great fun.

The thing to remember is that stealth and composure are too different things.

Stealth affects the little circular *pings* that jason gets from sound. Having a high stealth and doing things like moving slowly and not breaking poo poo means jason should basically never find you by stealth.

Composure is your fear resistance. If you are scared you light up like a Christmas tree no matter how good your stealth is. Keep near other counselors (not vanessa) and keep to lit areas or leave your flashlight on.

Just as a general tip, never be in the woods unless you are travelling. You will not escape from a competent jason if you are in the woods. He doesn't tire, and you don't get any breaks on your sprinting.

A good player can keep jason busy for five minutes or longer just by moving from cabin to cabin provided they are already locked up and he isn't in rage mode. That same player will get run down in under a minute in the woods because jason will telefrag them.

The only exception to this is if you are in a group waiting for the cops. So far the strongest strategy there seems to be to stand in a group of three or four, stop moving and point your flashlights at a wall. You won't have any fear so jason won't sense you, and if you aren't moving he doesn't hear you.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

AndyElusive posted:

This rules.

I'm worried that by the time I get around to buying and playing, this game will be all figured out and moments like this will become more frequent and less awesome.

having your mask pop off is a requirement in the kill and is nontrivially difficult. then, the mask also MUST be picked up by Jarvis, which is also nontrivially difficult. the sweater is also nontrivially difficult to get because jason's mom is a chatterbox and will alert jason when someone comes to pick it up.

basically if you're jason, pay attention to mommy and if you've eaten a stun or two, JARVIS DIES.

Caros
May 14, 2008

BillBear posted:

Sounds like you need Jason to be heavily wounded, Tommy to be on the scene and possibly his mum's sweater? Sounds tricky to pull off to me.

You need jason to have his mask knocked off, for tommy to pick it up. You also need a female player to be wearing mom's sweater and for her to use an ability (I'm not sure how this works but apparently you jam Q) at which point you can stun him and tommy can deliver the finishing blow.

In practice I'm guessing it only ever happens on flukes or with dumb Jason's. Once jason players know the sweater is a threat they will come and murder the poo poo out if anyone who goes for it (mom alerts them). Couple Thst with the fact that jason has to be knocked mask less and it's basically a perfect storm.

I'm still shocked as hell I did it. Sad I didn't record it though I don't know the developers would have been super happy with a video of one of their players yelling "Push Q or we all die you dumb oval office".

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Caros posted:

You need jason to have his mask knocked off, for tommy to pick it up. You also need a female player to be wearing mom's sweater and for her to use an ability (I'm not sure how this works but apparently you jam Q) at which point you can stun him and tommy can deliver the finishing blow.

In practice I'm guessing it only ever happens on flukes or with dumb Jason's. Once jason players know the sweater is a threat they will come and murder the poo poo out if anyone who goes for it (mom alerts them). Couple Thst with the fact that jason has to be knocked mask less and it's basically a perfect storm.

I'm still shocked as hell I did it. Sad I didn't record it though I don't know the developers would have been super happy with a video of one of their players yelling "Push Q or we all die you dumb oval office".

would be a better meme than Press F to Pay Respects imo

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Holy poo poo, I lucked into Jason on my very first game. It's incredibly fun to stalk around as Jason and hunt the counselors down one by one, he feels suitably powerful to play. Tommy Jarvis wasted his shot on me while I was in the kill animation on someone else already, so it didn't register I guess. Anyway I didn't even bother grabbing him I just chopped the poo poo out of him until he died.

Would it tell me of two counselors escaped? I only killed 6 counselors, but I never got any notification that anyone had escaped or that the police had been called. Maybe two people left?

BillBear
Mar 13, 2013

Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.

Caros posted:

A good player can keep jason busy for five minutes or longer just by moving from cabin to cabin provided they are already locked up and he isn't in rage mode. That same player will get run down in under a minute in the woods because jason will telefrag them.
hear you.

Isn't it designed so that no matter how sneaky you are, the moment you enter a cabin, it lights up the entire building? I'm always nervous as hell entering buildings because of this.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

BillBear posted:

Isn't it designed so that no matter how sneaky you are, the moment you enter a cabin, it lights up the entire building? I'm always nervous as hell entering buildings because of this.

only if your fear is high enough that you are detectable by sense. if your fear is not high enough the cabin will not light up.

in this way, entering a building changes the sense from a pinpoint callout to a small area.

BillBear
Mar 13, 2013

Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.

Coolguye posted:

only if your fear is high enough that you are detectable by sense. if your fear is not high enough the cabin will not light up.

in this way, entering a building changes the sense from a pinpoint callout to a small area.

Sounds like fear is massive in this game, I never realized.

Reminds me of Amnesia, which I like.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



BillBear posted:

Sounds like fear is massive in this game, I never realized.

Reminds me of Amnesia, which I like.

finding your friends' corpses is like the worst thing you can do

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Pharmaskittle posted:

Hey I'm not ready to pull the trigger on this quite yet despite watching some beta gameplay. Are there any good Twitch streams of the full game to help me decide? I ask because I have a really low tolerance for obnoxious streamers. Thanks!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/146845488
Around 2:27. Even has a Dev.

Caros
May 14, 2008

BillBear posted:

Isn't it designed so that no matter how sneaky you are, the moment you enter a cabin, it lights up the entire building? I'm always nervous as hell entering buildings because of this.

Yes and no. If you show up entering a cabin then you were in his radar before anyways.

The advantage of cabins is that they give you breathing room. Even if he goes right after the door, you have five to ten seconds of stamina regen, then right out a window and dive into the next cabin.

Done right you can string a Jason along three or four cabins within a few minutes, which is often enough time for him to get bored, frustrated or realize there is something else he needs to do.

If he is chasing you in the woods, you are hosed. He will shift up to you, then hatchet or grab you in short order. Even if you break away, his stamina is infinite, yours is not.

Use the cabins. Love the cabins. Lock the doors.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

BillBear posted:

Sounds like fear is massive in this game, I never realized.

Reminds me of Amnesia, which I like.

it is, that's the reason why, if you look over all the available survivors, not one of them save Jarvis has 10/10 composure. you can find 10/10 on someone somewhere, except composure. composure is gigantic because it makes it much, much easier to control your fear.

e: oh wait, checking again, Jenny Myers has 10/10 composure. huh, wonder how i missed that.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Its kind of weird and a little lovely that Fear is an incredibly key mechanic for both counselors and Jason but its not explained anywhere in game as far as I've seen.

Clamknuckle
Sep 7, 2006

Groovy
There's a how to play on the main menu now, it's a good read.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Database login failure? I assume this is just the servers getting hammered right?

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Givin
Jan 24, 2008
Givin of the Internet Hates You
Playing a sneaky character you really start to hate the other counselors a lot, especially the athletic chick. She gets afraid at every little fart that happens and when Jason is drawn to her like a bug zapper she runs the gently caress out of there leaving poor little miss nerdy girl to get slaughtered with her 4 runspeed.

This is also acceptable horror trope gameplay.

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