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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Just don't put the word "socialism" within a hundred miles of any poll question about it. Also, be extremely vague about how you plan to pay for it, and whatever you do, don't mention the words raise and taxes anywhere near each other.
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Rinkles posted:I wasn't suggesting the initial comparison had merit. that was less aimed at you and more of a general addendum.
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To be honest, I've only ever heard "alt-left" used as a slur equating leftists with fascists, never to refer to actual tankies. Probably because tankies are rare enough that I've literally never met or read about them in any venue other than SA, and because everyone else on the left either despises them or (more frequently) doesn't know they exist.
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Spacebump posted:Counterpoint: The 2017 Republicans still talk about Lincoln. "We're the party of Lincoln!" They insist unironically while finding ways to make it so black people can't vote.
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Potato Salad posted:Dude, he described himself in 2010 in a party as a fish out of water who felt like he was undeserving of the stroke of luck he had in being able to poach Sandberg as COO. In person he is awkward as hell and appears not to have improved on that front. He has trouble eloquently answering questions off the cuff. I literally just said this a page or two back. Perhaps you missed the point in my post where I said he shouldn't run, and that I think he is a bad candidate, and that I was simply responding to the point he isn't intelligent. Intelligent - yes. Candidate - no.
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May 26, 2017 22:59
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Majin posted:Can anyone categorize them for me so I'm not making the mistake of lumping any of these others into the same basket? "People" perhaps? You are just describing the fact that people care about their interests and get emotional about stuff which affects them, which yes they always will and it's unfair to penalize them for. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 23:04 on May 26, 2017 |
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May 26, 2017 23:01
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Rinkles posted:How big is the alt-right actually? They're loud, but I've always suspected the coverage they got was disproportionate. Electorate % isn't the problem when they doxx opponents, generate fake news, and hold torchlit vigils with Richard Spencer outside primarily black neighborhoods.
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May 26, 2017 23:01
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FUUUUUUUCK ICK YOOOOOOOOOOUUUUU
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May 26, 2017 23:02
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Potato Salad posted:Dude, he described himself in 2010 in a party as a fish out of water who felt like he was undeserving of the stroke of luck he had in being able to poach Sandberg as COO. In person he is awkward as hell and appears not to have improved on that front. He has trouble eloquently answering questions off the cuff. thankfully our media obsessed culture will tear him down in the debates just like they did lincoln chafee, the soft spoken, scandal free candidate we didn't even deserve #feelthechafe
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May 26, 2017 23:03
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pumpinglemma posted:To be honest, I've only ever heard "alt-left" used as a slur equating leftists with fascists, never to refer to actual tankies. That's literally all it is. It's a way for aforementioned Nazis and racists to get back at leftists for poisoning their cutesy label for ethnonationalism in the minds of the masses
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May 26, 2017 23:03
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CelestialScribe posted:I literally just said this a page or two back. Euuuh I'm standing by it, I kinda take intelligence as a more complete set of expectations to meet than a straight D20 game's INT stat.
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CelestialScribe posted:I literally just said this a page or two back. If he is so intelligent, he wouldn't be thinking about running for president.
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If every Republican voter is a Nazi lover and "alt-right" means "Nazis who won't admit it" that probably makes the Alt-Right a massive part of the population.
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Haha what the gently caress. #resistance
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the 'alt right' i think can be plainly defined as a conservative off-shoot looking to pull conservative norms in this country much further left, much quicker, by attempting to rebirth fascism using gay frog memes and internet racism i dont think the left has a corollary
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Trabisnikof posted:that probably makes the Alt-Right a massive part of the population. Nah, however the alt-right is a significant minority and people who sympathize with the goals of the alt-right are a pretty massive part of the population, probably 25-30% tbh
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Bottom Liner posted:She and Trump truly deserve one another Yes. But what did America do to deserve either of them edit: OH GOD DON'T LIST IT OUT, I CAN JUST SEE A LIST OF AMERICA'S CRIMES
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May 26, 2017 23:12
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StrangersInTheNight posted:"People" perhaps? You are just describing the fact that people care about their interests and get emotional about stuff which affects them, which yes they always will and it's unfair to penalize them for. That seems a bit overreaching in my eyes. We're all "people", so to speak, and I feel everyone should get a fair chance and not at all be discriminated against based of their race, gender, or sexual orientation. But where do these people's interests lie that falls so far outside of a normal leftist's views that others can differentiate between them?
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May 26, 2017 23:16
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Uh he was joking so it's all ok.
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May 26, 2017 23:17
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Guess who likes Duterte.
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Just finished reading the article, and it's actually a pretty fascinating read. Thanks for the link.
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May 26, 2017 23:18
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What happened to the Philippines that led to someone like him being elected President? To be honest I know literally nothing about the country post WWII so for all I know maybe it's entire post-colonial history has been this hosed up.
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May 26, 2017 23:18
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"Aw jeez I saw this real self-assured kid today but I've already committed my three rapes  "
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May 26, 2017 23:19
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Ekster posted:Guess who likes Duterte. republicans?
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's absolutely valid to complain that an ally isn't meeting their obligations, but throwing a tantrum in public like a child isn't going to make said allies take you any more seriously. They have until 2024 to get their spending up to that amount. Trump pissing off our allies by rambling on about them not paying their fare share is literally premature and a problem that's set to correct itself.
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May 26, 2017 23:22
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May 26, 2017 23:22
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Bottom Liner posted:She and Trump truly deserve one another She's showing more attachment to Donald than Melania is.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What happened to the Philippines that led to someone like him being elected President? To be honest I know literally nothing about the country post WWII so for all I know maybe it's entire post-colonial history has been this hosed up. Drug problems and extremist problems made an extreme "law and order" candidate viable
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TildeATH posted:She's showing more attachment to Donald than Melania is. What'd you do for that red text, holy poo poo.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What happened to the Philippines that led to someone like him being elected President? To be honest I know literally nothing about the country post WWII so for all I know maybe it's entire post-colonial history has been this hosed up. The drug epidemic there is serious even if Duterte addresses it in the most thuggish way possible. Leads to a lot of people willing to vote for the "Law & Order" candidate even if he openly talks about murdering people and wanting to commit rapes. Around the time of the election there was negative press about him because he'd said in a speech that if he had the chance, he would have joined in on the gang rape and murder of an Australian missionary. He later clarified in another speech that he wasn't joking when he said it despite people trying to pass it off as such, perhaps he'll do the same again here.
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Fojar38 posted:Drug problems and extremist problems made an extreme "law and order" candidate viable Yeah but have they had demagogic leaders in his mold before? Or was this one long buildup.
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Fojar38 posted:Drug problems and extremist problems made an extreme "law and order" candidate viable So they elected an admitted drug addict extremist.
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Apoplexy posted:So they elected an admitted drug addict extremist. Yep
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In case anyone isn't in the know: Duterte calls for the execution, extra-judicially, of drug users. IS AN ADMITTED FENTANYL ADDICT.
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