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jabby posted:Predicting the election is dumb, the polls are the best guideline we have. Pretty sure making a prediction myself would undermine my own opinion. Can we at least agree on the prediction that Labour will lose the election?
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God forbid the guy having the same slapfight with pissflaps daily looks dumb! Commit to an arbitrary set of numbers and lets do this. Mine are 32% and con majority of 5 
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Namtab posted:God forbid the guy having the same slapfight with pissflaps daily looks dumb! Commit to an arbitrary set of numbers and lets do this. If Labour get 32% the Tories will have a much larger majority than 5. Also Diane Abbott is going on Marr tomorrow with Amber Rudd. I'm not sure this is a good strategy.
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jabby posted:If Labour get 32% the Tories will have a much larger majority than 5. Don't forget about the #libdemfightback!
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jabby posted:Predicting the election is dumb, the polls are the best guideline we have. Pretty sure making a prediction myself would undermine my own opinion. Yeah man that's a real danger good call!
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namesake posted:There's also There's no "try" involved. It's already been ruled that Article 50 can be revoked at the end of the negotiating period, but that anyone trying it should expect penalties so as to prevent countries trying to use "take our ball" negotiation tactics. I would expect these penalties to take the form of paying everyone's costs and not being allowed to invoke the article again within a given period, rather than anything punitive or substantive.
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33% Lab 34% Con and hung parliament. resolved by Timmy doing a Clegg.
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Mister Adequate posted:33% Lab I admire your optimism, man.
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Any new polls?
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tithin posted:Any new polls? 
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kustomkarkommando posted:Infopost Thanks for that, nice to have a bit of backstory to follow when the horrors of election night are upon us Rakosi posted:I dunno mate, going back in time to kill hitler is a pretty popular fantasy trope in pop culture. Yo the difference is that nobody's actually going back to Hitler times so it doesn't matter, whereas people cheerleading revenge bombing is a bad thing because it has actual consequences Side effects of bantz include:
It's one thing to go "haha I wish they'd drop a signed bomb on that guy's face", it's another to see they're actually doing it for real and go "what a great a idea this is gonna be hilarious". It's dumb as hell and the kind of thing the Sun furiously jerks off over baka kaba fucked around with this message at 03:18 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 03:06
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Thanks, I appreciate your NI updates.
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Barry Foster posted:I admire your optimism, man. Ah but you see the country coming so close to salvation before having it snatched away by a Second Liberal Betrayal would be the ultimate repudiation of optimism. e; This is helpful and very interesting. Will the GE results have any/much effect on the ballix in Stormont? Or is that all down to the Assembly and, thus, currently undertaking a wee pre-Brexit preview of oncoming doom? Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 04:50 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 04:36
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youch may is going to want to roll heads over the dementia tax messaging. it's like the bedroom tax reception. in both cases there is an obvious failure to get proponent groups on board first - it allows the principle that "wealthier people should pay more", which Polls and Focus's well, to be washed out by the specifics ronya fucked around with this message at 05:46 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 05:40
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I'm surprised tuition fees are high on the labour one but I suppose it's an easy policy to remember.
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it's disproportionately most interesting to those most likely to have heard of any policies at all (only 60% of yougov's weighted participants, it seems), which is what you have to be to be given this question
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Namtab posted:Turns out its going to be me that makes the spreadsheet then. Not quite how I intended this to go but very well. goddamnedtwisto is already doing it but better because there are ~stakes~
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BobbyThompson posted:CON: 352 Got it, but can people remember to quote a post of mine so it gets highlighted? I do tend to skim the thread when it gets a bit like it did last night...
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They have released cctv pictures of the bomber and surprise, surprise he is a complete nerd. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/27/police-release-pictures-of-manchester-bomber
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May 28, 2017 07:06
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Have some election material that I got through my door yesterday
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May 28, 2017 07:08
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ookiimarukochan posted:Have some election material that I got through my door yesterday it's okay, you dont have to pretend - we support your candidacy
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ookiimarukochan posted:Have some election material that I got through my door yesterday That's like the third  reference to Chatham House I've seen in the last couple of months - are Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission out of fashion now?
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ookiimarukochan posted:Have some election material that I got through my door yesterday Someone posted that yesterday! Please rectify his mistake and show us what's overleaf.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm surprised tuition fees are high on the labour one but I suppose it's an easy policy to remember. I take you have never been around youngs who start screeching that their parents got free Uni while they get lumped with debt for studying at Uni
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Jedit posted:There's no "try" involved. It's already been ruled that Article 50 can be revoked at the end of the negotiating period, but that anyone trying it should expect penalties so as to prevent countries trying to use "take our ball" negotiation tactics. I would expect these penalties to take the form of paying everyone's costs and not being allowed to invoke the article again within a given period, rather than anything punitive or substantive. I don't think there's a single part of this post that's grounded in reality. There's been no 'ruling' on the reversibility of article 50 - the EU's response to our invocation of it included the statement that it is. The existence of any penalties for doing so and what these penalties might be are just something you've made up. Bizarre.
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Who's Tim? More than half of voters do not know who Tim Farron is http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/26/tim-half-voters-do-not-know-tim-farron/ quote:Fewer than half of the public know who Tim Farron is, according to a new poll.
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Labour will win. Because I want them to.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Who's Tim? More than half of voters do not know who Tim Farron is I heard a thing on the radio a while back where they interviewed a load of leavers together about the election and then a load of remainers. In the remainers section they had a load of labour voters and a load of people that had voted lib dem previously. Two of the previously lib dem voting ones didn't know who farron was and didn't even seem particularly embarrassed that they didn't. These were (by the sound of it) people in their 30s/40s with decent jobs.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Wouldn't this imply that Labour is not in fact completely committed to ending free movement? quote:LONDON — A Labour government would bring an end to freedom of movement from the EU, the party’s shadow Brexit secretary confirmed.
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Zephro posted:They've straight up said they want to: I'm guessing you quoted the headline rather than just quoting Kier Starmer because this is the article where he correctly stated that freedom of movement would end if we left the single market, and didn't actually lay out any policy?
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May 28, 2017 08:50
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what could have been... https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/868661862665269248
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Ed's been having a loving ball since he resigned. It's adorable, to be honest.
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Miftan posted:Ed's been having a loving ball since he resigned. It's adorable, to be honest. TBF I think anybody would like to unwind after having to live in backstab central for four and a half years.
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Praseodymi posted:I'm guessing you quoted the headline rather than just quoting Kier Starmer because this is the article where he correctly stated that freedom of movement would end if we left the single market, and didn't actually lay out any policy? Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union. - Labour manifesto, page 28
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Zephro posted:They've straight up said they want to: LemonDrizzle posted:Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union. - Labour manifesto, page 28 I think you all might be mistaking the descriptive for the normative again.
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Cerebral Bore posted:I think you all might be mistaking the descriptive for the normative again. No, just reading a completely unambiguous policy commitment as a completely unambiguous policy commitment.
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How much nuance do you have to huff to not be able to pretend that Labour are pro hard Brexit?
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