|
Al-Saqr posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhG1ZNxwCaA Your post is obnoxious but to give a bit of context: British politics is historically conducted through parliamentary-style debate, and the people in that are all well-versed in formal, stuffy, parry and riposte style arguing. Where there are rules and points and strategies, like a chess game. It means that neither side really 100% believe exactly what they're saying, it's as much about forcing rhetorical advances and retreats than it is about exploring the issue. For many cultural reasons, It is, essentially, a game. So once you're attuned to that then certain aspects of British media interview are sort of like water off a duck's back, it's not even aggressive or overly harsh. Even a guy like Corbyn, who isn't from a private school background, lives in that world because he's sat as an MP for 30 years. The interviewer is pretty textbook British establishment guy so that sort of interview is his bread and butter. Hoops fucked around with this message at 16:59 on May 28, 2017 |
# ? May 28, 2017 16:53 |
|
|
# ? Jun 10, 2024 10:24 |
|
winegums posted:CON: 276 Zephro posted:Actually on second thoughts: Well it wasted the very funny joke I was going to make about you getting the neighbour of the beats as your number of MPs in the country. Private Speech posted:Put me down on: I specified registered, UK charities only just to avoid clever people suggesting we give it to a group likely to destroy Britain like ISIS or the Tories or oh wait.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:02 |
|
goddamnedtwisto posted:I specified registered, UK charities only just to avoid clever people suggesting we give it to a group likely to destroy Britain like ISIS or the Tories or oh wait. Aww. Scratch that then, no bet for me.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:13 |
|
baka kaba posted:All right I'll bite with this one, do we actually have any indication she'd be a bad Home Secretary? Unlike the shadow position it's not about being good in interviews or remembering figures, it's about policy development and overseeing the people who work with that policy. Is she incredibly bad at that? Aside from being an office that corrupts everyone who takes it, is there any indication things would be worse with her than, say, Theresa May's stunning record of achievements? Talking to the press is an important job for a Minister. Doubly so for the Home Sec who will often have to go in front of the media about quite controversial things because it's a horrible depart. Diane Abbott is not someone you would willingly roll out in front of the press. Her as Home Sec? gently caress man, it'd be bad. Hoops posted:Even a guy like Corbyn, who isn't from a private school background, lives in that world because he's sat as an MP for 30 years. The interviewer is pretty textbook British establishment guy so that sort of interview is his bread and butter. Which is a polite way of saying they all saw Jeremy Paxman and decided that was the only way to conduct political interviews
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:19 |
|
Kegluneq posted:Literally just threw out my old and lovely printer/scanner in a fit of pique after finding out that the ink cartridges cost more to replace than a new actual printer would, but I can take more photos later. Awesome, hopefully it will become an SA or/and a b3ta photoshop challenge
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:22 |
|
https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/868733164075798529
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:24 |
|
Oh Jeremy Corbyn is Ed Miliband's dad? Crikey it's a small world after all.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:30 |
Hoops posted:Even a guy like Corbyn, who isn't from a private school background
|
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:30 |
|
Also a reminder that Al-Saqr is sitting in Saudi Arabia while looking at our press with disdain. That's how bad it is. Oh breaking news that motherfucker Farron just sent an email about the Dementia Tax. Yeeup, he's literally claiming the only way to stop it is to vote Lib Dem because Labour won't oppose the conservatives. Utter fuckhead.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:33 |
|
Al-saqr is saudi? loving lol at his posts i've read then
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:35 |
|
Jose posted:loving lol at his posts i've read then Indeed
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:37 |
|
Tesseraction posted:Also a reminder that Al-Saqr is sitting in Saudi Arabia while looking at our press with disdain. That's how bad it is. It's because British tabloid press is word for word the same screeching fake patriotism madness that wouldn't look out of place in an Egyptian fascist newspaper and it's so loving obvious it's unbelievable. I guess that's what happens when a single Australian fascist businessman gets control of most of your media then it really is no different than a government effort. You would think though that in a free country there'd be more mechanisms to fight back against this but I guess there isn't and that's why democracy is in huge trouble from fake news efforts.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:42 |
|
Be nice to him lads he's a good guy. Also part of the orblluminati now but that's what happens when Trump is president.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:42 |
|
Al-Saqr posted:It's because British tabloid press is word for word the same screeching fake patriotism madness that wouldn't look out of place in an Egyptian fascist newspaper and it's so loving obvious it's unbelievable. I guess that's what happens when a single Australian fascist businessman gets control of most of your media then it really is no different than a government effort. Yeah it basically is a massive propaganda wing for the remnants of the Nazi Party at this point.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:43 |
|
Tesseraction posted:Be nice to him lads he's a good guy. He really isn't
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:46 |
|
jBrereton posted:He is, actually Kind of yes and no - he went to a private primary school and a rather posh but still state grammar school (if I'm reading the wiki right). Not quite Eton/Harrow though so he'd still have been looked down on.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:47 |
|
TheRat posted:He really isn't Hi friend, if there's anything you wanna talk about and clarify I am free anytime to talk through PMs
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:47 |
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAzDlcq4Ud8 I sure hope he included the parts where the parents got the BNP to march through the town centre for them and about Charlene's bad homelife at the time
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:48 |
|
goddamnedtwisto posted:Well it wasted the very funny joke I was going to make about you getting the neighbour of the beats as your number of MPs in the country. http://apps.charitycommission.gov.u...sidiaryNumber=0 so...to be clear is UNICEF aight? Also I've been reading 4chan and people there seem surprisingly on-side with Corbyn? It's an arbitrary small smattering of neets who won't vote, but they seem to like him and the "lets not bomb the middle east forever" idea. This is a website who, previously, utterly sucked Farage's cock. Even people posting things like "economy is always better under Tories" are getting dogpiled on. Are things getting better?
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:49 |
|
baka kaba posted:All right I'll bite with this one, do we actually have any indication she'd be a bad Home Secretary? Not much, only everything she says and does. I don't doubt Corbyn would like to put her somewhere she can succeed just by having her area of responsibility not turn into a crater, especially as he must know their personal history makes it look bad, but the PLP deprived him of the luxury.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:50 |
|
winegums posted:http://apps.charitycommission.gov.u...sidiaryNumber=0 The old school lefties remain on /pol/ in small numbers but mostly gather on the /lit/ and /co/ boards I know /leftypol/ on 8chan has a big following
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:52 |
|
Did Abbott and the Corbman actually date or is that some Sun gossip
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:53 |
|
Al-Saqr posted:It's because British tabloid press is word for word the same screeching fake patriotism madness that wouldn't look out of place in an Egyptian fascist newspaper and it's so loving obvious it's unbelievable. I guess that's what happens when a single Australian fascist businessman gets control of most of your media then it really is no different than a government effort. You would think though that in a free country there'd be more mechanisms to fight back against this but I guess there isn't and that's why democracy is in huge trouble from fake news efforts. It being a free country just means that the state isn't allowed to tell private interests not to do what some states have to employ entire ministries to achieve.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:57 |
|
Beyond her sometimes poor interview technique I don't actually see what everybody's problem with Abbott is.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:57 |
|
TomViolence posted:Beyond her sometimes poor interview technique I don't actually see what everybody's problem with Abbott is. Yeah I don't know of any policy issues I would take with her, just that I wouldn't put her in front of a camera because she doesn't seem to do well when that happens.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 17:59 |
|
Lightning Lord posted:100%, total destruction
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:02 |
|
Considering there are politicians who have had far more noteworthy fuckups and got nowhere near the same amount of stick, I think everybody's problem is that she is a black woman with opinions and has become fashionable to mock as a result. I voted for her when she stood for Labour leader, I haven't seen or heard anything that has made me regret that choice.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:03 |
TomViolence posted:Beyond her sometimes poor interview technique I don't actually see what everybody's problem with Abbott is. I've got nothing against her and she's right about white people, but my nan could do better in interviews, and she's dead
|
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:04 |
Also greetings from Trumptopia, UKMT. Today I've learned that America doesn't have beer gardens because the puritans thought they were sinful. The Land of Almost Right.
|
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:06 |
|
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/868859355197820928 https://twitter.com/YanniKouts/status/868845655049080833 TRUMP
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:11 |
Kegluneq posted:Kind of yes and no - he went to a private primary school and a rather posh but still state grammar school (if I'm reading the wiki right). Not quite Eton/Harrow though so he'd still have been looked down on.
|
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:16 |
Hey at least they're being neighbourly with us and the Rus'!
|
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:18 |
|
Lightning Lord posted:Did Abbott and the Corbman actually date or is that some Sun gossip Yes in the 70s. It was used during the first leadership campaign as a "HE DATES NEGROES" smear.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:20 |
|
Oh god May has sent Rudd to take part in the ITV debate, please please Corbyn do not send in Abbott.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:21 |
|
He also grew up in a mansion and is called Jeremy. Posh oval office.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:21 |
|
deletebeepbeepbeep posted:Oh god May has sent Rudd to take part in the ITV debate, please please Corbyn do not send in Abbott. may is so poo poo lol
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:25 |
|
When looking at Corbyn's gains in the polls, I have two questions; 1) What would be the impact if he decided to campaign the second he was made Labour leader instead of the second he was declared leader, and 2) What would an aggressive left wing leader have done in his place?
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:27 |
|
winegums posted:http://apps.charitycommission.gov.u...sidiaryNumber=0 UNICEF is fine (I did in fact mean UK-registered but brainfarted and put registered, UK instead). Reading 4chan... not so much.
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:28 |
|
Gorn Myson posted:When looking at Corbyn's gains in the polls, I have two questions; 1) What would be the impact if he decided to campaign the second he was made Labour leader instead of the second he was declared leader, and 2) What would an aggressive left wing leader have done in his place? I don't understand the first part of your question. Campaign for what? Made leader and declared leader?
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:29 |
|
|
# ? Jun 10, 2024 10:24 |
If you want a full transcript of that Merkel speech here is this guy's attempt: The times when we could rely completely on others, those are over. That's what I've come to experience in the last few days. Because of that, all I can say is that we, as Europeans, have to take our destiny into our own hands, naturally in friendship with the US and with the UK, and with neighbourly relations with everyone in the world, including Russia as well as other countries, but we have to understand that fighting for the future of Europe is our responsibility alone. And I look forward to doing it together with you.
|
|
# ? May 28, 2017 18:33 |