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Goku | 202 | 7.09% | |
Vegeta | 279 | 9.79% | |
Krillin | 208 | 7.30% | |
Piccolo or his nameks | 212 | 7.44% | |
Gohan or Cool Gohan | 135 | 4.74% | |
Yamcha | 90 | 3.16% | |
Tien | 120 | 4.21% | |
Muten Roshi | 89 | 3.12% | |
Tao Pai Pai | 71 | 2.49% | |
Frieza | 69 | 2.42% | |
Cell or an android | 86 | 3.02% | |
Buu | 62 | 2.18% | |
Hercule "Mark" Satan | 327 | 11.48% | |
Videl | 90 | 3.16% | |
Bulma | 104 | 3.65% | |
Yajirobe | 99 | 3.47% | |
Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy | 68 | 2.39% | |
King kai or another kai | 53 | 1.86% | |
Chi-Chi | 83 | 2.91% | |
Goten | 43 | 1.51% | |
Trunks or Cool Trunks | 112 | 3.93% | |
Bardock | 48 | 1.68% | |
Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) | 41 | 1.44% | |
Uub | 42 | 1.47% | |
Oolong | 90 | 3.16% | |
Zamasu | 26 | 0.91% | |
Total: | 1326 votes |
khwarezm posted:I did like Cabba's feeble attempt to do it the old fashioned way and make Caulifla super mad, but he just can't nut up and do it properly. Also most of them seemed like assholes a lot of the time.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:06 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 03:57 |
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Nessus posted:The Saiyans actually didn't train themselves, or at least didn't do formal training https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lso9j3jGp7w
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:16 |
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I thought it was weird a few weeks ago when Tenshinhan told his students to focus on their bellies while yelling. I guess this is going to be a thing now.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:18 |
Yeah and he was the strongest of them despite being a shortarse, QED Your average Saiyan was probably more like Raditz.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:21 |
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Nessus posted:The Saiyans actually didn't train themselves, or at least didn't do formal training at length; I mean, I assume they did some ki shot practice and so forth. But most of the ones in U7 just blew away planets by showing up and kicking rear end, and if the enemy was tough enough to survive that, they went ape. How do you know? Like these are meant to be people who have a primal urge to gently caress poo poo up to the point that they blew up their own planet and continuously seek out stronger challenges. Even if they didn't hit the gym every weekend their lifestyle would have intrinsically demanded that they stay strong and have been its own training. Considering how easy the Super Saiyan transformation has been shown to be in the end it just seems ridiculous that there was none for like a thousand years before Goku.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:24 |
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khwarezm posted:How do you know? Like these are meant to be people who have a primal urge to gently caress poo poo up to the point that they blew up their own planet and continuously seek out stronger challenges. Even if they didn't hit the gym every weekend their lifestyle would have intrinsically demanded that they stay strong and have been its own training. Considering how easy the Super Saiyan transformation has been shown to be in the end it just seems ridiculous that there was none for like a thousand years before Goku. Most of the Saiyans just turned into giant apes and squished everyone.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:31 |
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I assumed super Saiyan had some kind of power level floor before you could achieve it. Goku was basically already the strongest Saiyan when he fought Frieza before he transformed. Goten and Trunks could do it thanks to the bizarre power level "catch-up mechanic" that seems to exist, which let them somehow be far stronger than Frieza at age eight.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:38 |
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Zinkraptor posted:I assumed super Saiyan had some kind of power level floor before you could achieve it. Goku was basically already the strongest Saiyan when he fought Frieza before he transformed. Goten and Trunks could do it thanks to the bizarre power level "catch-up mechanic" that seems to exist, which let them somehow be far stronger than Frieza at age eight. So like I said, it makes no sense, and never will. That also reminds of another thing I found ridiculous, Goku becoming one of the most powerful beings in the universe after a single week of training on the gravity ship.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:40 |
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Pureauthor posted:It just occurred to me that we missed out on an opportunity for Zamas to exploit his immortal body by using Kaioken x100. The fun thing about Dragon Ball villains is that a lot of them could be far, far more powerful, but they lack the knowledge to exploit this. Why Freeza could be is straight-up said in-series. He's the villain Gohan: ridiculous potential, no intention whatsoever to actually exploit it because effort. We've seen what only four months of training did, if he had completed said training, he would've been stronger than Goku and Vegeta as Super Saiyan Blue with no drawbacks whatsoever. We know that Cell could be much stronger thanks to Freeza. He holds the same kind of bottomless potential, but he also had no idea about it. Even if he did know about it, he just wanted to get his tournament running ASAP because Saiyan cells mean he wants fights now, yesterday, tomorrow, always. He could also constantly power up through near-death thanks to the combination of Zenkai, Freeza's ridiculous toughness and Piccolo's regenerative abilities up to eleven. Buu could just eat everyone and keep getting boosts forever. The versatility this has simply can't be overstated, in Heroes, Kid Buu becomes a Demon God (and a bad pun, because Japan) by eating Demon God Dabura. Beerus is lazy and constantly holds back. We haven't seen him at 100% yet, and we have no way to know how strong that'd be beyond "weaker than Vegetto Blue". Which is cool, but Beerus can survive for more than a few minutes, so that's pretty good. And you know, Beerus doesn't need to fight, he can just use Destruction and win immediately. As you said, Zamasu has an immortal body and all of Goku's techniques. Fusion Zamasu could push Kaioken to unimaginable heights to boost himself to ridiculous extents. Hell, Black could use Super Saiyan Rosé Kaio-ken, gently caress up his body, then use that to power the hell up. And if we use the manga Zamasu, he could be healed instantly as well. On the last note, Goku Black has unused lines for the Kaio-ken in Xenoverse 2. I doubt that will be used, but it'd be cool as hell. Also I don't get the people who say that 18 wanting cash is OOC or whatever. It's pretty blatant that Krillin and 18 did that to get cash out of Bulma (or Goku, but only Bulma could really pay). 18 would've likely joined anyways, she doesn't really want everyone, including her loved husband and daughter, dying, but goddamn it'd be really OOC for her if she let that kind of chance pass her, and Krillin played along because he loves her and because there's still a bit of early DB Krillin in the mature best husband we have here. 18 is well-known for using blackmail to her advantage, after all, she did it with Satan. Also also I wish Super stopped adding unneccesary explanations. First the Potara time-limit, now the weird back thing. I don't even care about most stuff, I just want to have fun and goddamn the opening is wrong, I'm getting all the satisfaction, but those little details are so weird.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:40 |
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yea the explanations aren't necessary at all who needed more explanation for super saiyan or w/e else
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:47 |
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khwarezm posted:That also reminds of another thing I found ridiculous, Goku becoming one of the most powerful beings in the universe after a single week of training on the gravity ship. Goku was using hax on that space trip. He would beat himself near to death with training then eat a senzu bean so he could keep training. He went through an entire bag.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:48 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:yea the explanations aren't necessary at all Taking a look at the Dragonball wiki... Apparently a whole lot of people.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:53 |
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The funniest thing of all to keep in mind is that, filler included Gohan was easily the strongest person in the universe that couldn't transform by the end of the Freeza saga. Vegeta MIGHT have been stronger if he got a zenkai from dying, but otherwise Gohan might have been stronger than Goku if Goku didn't use Kaioken or SSJ. He did go toe to toe with Final Form Freeza briefly before Goku came back, way better than Vegeta managed.
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# ? May 29, 2017 02:58 |
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Rutibex posted:Goku was using hax on that space trip. He would beat himself near to death with training then eat a senzu bean so he could keep training. He went through an entire bag. It still tickles me pink that Vegeta gets himself smashed to the brink of death like 6 times on Namek, and even actually dies eventually, and yet with all those Zenkai boosts he can't hope to compete with Goku doing press ups in high gravity. And this was after he was obviously the stronger fighter on Earth and would have killed Goku if it wasn't for his friends intervening.
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:01 |
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khwarezm posted:It still tickles me pink that Vegeta gets himself smashed to the brink of death like 6 times on Namek, and even actually dies eventually, and yet with all those Zenkai boosts he can't hope to compete with Goku doing press ups in high gravity. And this was after he was obviously the stronger fighter on Earth and would have killed Goku if it wasn't for his friends intervening. Then Vegita spends the next 10 years training at high gravity, only for it not to work for him nearly as well
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:03 |
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Top detectives sleuthing out the plotholes of Dragon Ball here
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:30 |
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Professor Wayne posted:I thought it was weird a few weeks ago when Tenshinhan told his students to focus on their bellies while yelling. I guess this is going to be a thing now. That's actually consistent both in show and to the concept of ki. Chinese teachings believe it comes from you stomach, which I think is one of the seven chakras. Remember when Videl learned to fly she had to bring her ki out from her stomach
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:30 |
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It's hosed up that Goku got stronger than the current arc villain by drinking water two different times
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:31 |
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Professor Wayne posted:I thought it was weird a few weeks ago when Tenshinhan told his students to focus on their bellies while yelling. I guess this is going to be a thing now. Ki is a thing in real life and is all about the flow through chakra gates. I'm no expert or whatever, but this is like the thing that comes up when I looked for it. A billion variations on this.
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:34 |
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Mordaedil posted:Ki is a thing in real life Not quite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deg7jw4xmlM
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:50 |
Rutibex posted:Then Vegita spends the next 10 years training at high gravity, only for it not to work for him nearly as well
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# ? May 29, 2017 03:58 |
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Nessus posted:Nobody told Vegeta he needed to ALMOST die and then eat a senzu bean. Bulma could've probably repaired or built a Freeza healtank for him. He figured it out on Namek. All he needed to gain infinite power was the help of Krillin and Dende. Just spend a year in the time chamber blowing holes in his chest and healing him up.
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# ? May 29, 2017 04:03 |
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khwarezm posted:It still tickles me pink that Vegeta gets himself smashed to the brink of death like 6 times on Namek, and even actually dies eventually, and yet with all those Zenkai boosts he can't hope to compete with Goku doing press ups in high gravity. And this was after he was obviously the stronger fighter on Earth and would have killed Goku if it wasn't for his friends intervening. He was stronger than first arriving to Namek Goku. He just wasn't stronger than beat the gently caress up and healed in a tank Goku. And even if he was Goku had Kaioken.
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# ? May 29, 2017 04:48 |
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Kild posted:He was stronger than first arriving to Namek Goku. He just wasn't stronger than beat the gently caress up and healed in a tank Goku. And even if he was Goku had Kaioken. No he wasn't, when Goku arrived on Namek Vegeta was getting a pounding off of Recoome who he couldn't hope to match, and in short order Goku easily defeats Recoome, Burter and Jeice like it was nothing.
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# ? May 29, 2017 05:08 |
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khwarezm posted:No he wasn't, when Goku arrived on Namek Vegeta was getting a pounding off of Recoome who he couldn't hope to match, and in short order Goku easily defeats Recoome, Burter and Jeice like it was nothing. they're talking about after all that. right before freeza killed him
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# ? May 29, 2017 05:21 |
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Huh. Well. That's a bit too similar for pure coincidence.
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# ? May 29, 2017 05:43 |
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StrifeHira posted:Huh. Well. That's a bit too similar for pure coincidence. Are you just trying to say that Caulifla is cocky and confident like Goku or is there something i'm not getting.
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# ? May 29, 2017 05:49 |
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StrifeHira posted:Huh. Well. That's a bit too similar for pure coincidence.
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# ? May 29, 2017 05:49 |
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Clearly Goku and Caulifla are the same person I mean, have you seen them both in the same universe at once?
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# ? May 29, 2017 05:59 |
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- Trunks and Goten's ability to go super saiyan at such a young age came from the belief that people's genetics "got stronger" as they got stronger too. Goku was a measly 300 power level or so when he knocked up Chi Chi with Gohan, but was probably in super saiyan form when he knocked her up with Goten (remember that him and Gohan stayed in super saiyan form the week leading up to the Cell games). Of course that's not how DNA works, but Toriyama believed it. - I don't think U9 is going to get 10 fighters so they might be disqualified on the spot. - I hope the OP is updated to replace Buu with Freeza. - Expecting Cabba, Kale and Caulifla to suddenly be good at Super Saiyan is a fool's errand, save for Kale who probably will be LSSJ like Broly. Vegeta and Goku have already surpassed SSJ and Gohan has his own form that's stronger than SSJ3 (allegedly). - I fuckin love this:
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:12 |
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OB_Juan posted:Also, is it an accident that both Cauli and Kale are so close to Kali, the Hindu goddess? On another show, I'd think so, but this show is so into pun names... Vegetable, Carrot, Radish, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Kale
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:12 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Are you just trying to say that Caulifla is cocky and confident like Goku or is there something i'm not getting. Hair design is oddly similar. lezard_valeth posted:Clearly Goku and Caulifla are the same person Nah that can't be true. That'd be as silly as Gohan being the real Saiyaman. He only plays Saiyaman in the movies.
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:41 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Vegetable, Carrot, Radish, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Kale
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:43 |
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Also Cabbage, Broccoli, Cauliflowers and Kale are all part of the same plant species.
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:47 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Even Saiyan (Saiya-jin) is a pun. It's a mash-up of "wild people" and an anagram for "vegetable". Saiya jin translates to Saiya People and I will not hear otherwise
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:49 |
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Pureauthor posted:Also Cabbage, Broccoli, Cauliflowers and Kale are all part of the same plant species. Huh. The puns go deeper than I realised.
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:54 |
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Pureauthor posted:Also Cabbage, Broccoli, Cauliflowers and Kale are all part of the same plant species.
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:55 |
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What's Tarble?
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# ? May 29, 2017 06:58 |
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Dexo posted:What's Tarble? Vege-tarble.
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# ? May 29, 2017 07:02 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 03:57 |
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My favorite line was Beerus calling Krillin Trillin. It's begging for a blingee. I also like how chrome says Trillin is a spelling error but not Krillin. I don't know if it's an important detail or a slip in writing but gohan, piccolo tien and krillin could sense vegeta in ssb when he broke the time chamber again. Also caulifa has her own theme song and her own special attack, she's probably important. Looking forward to dopey kale going crazy next episode though. GokuGoesSSj69 fucked around with this message at 08:51 on May 29, 2017 |
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