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open24hours posted:We kept playing sport against them for a long time after that, so it can't have been that uncommon. It varied a bit. Official cricket tours were stopped for the 70s and 80s, and players who did take part in unofficial tours were banned for several years.
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Lid posted:It wasn't This is also the age of rugby tours no longer heading to South Africa in protest. Teams that did tour to RSA or accept the Springboks coming to tour were widely admonished. Australian rugby to it's credit did not participate in anything to do with South Africa while NZ and others persisted with tours until 1985 (I think). On the NZ tour to RSA, the government in South Africa allowed the Maori players to be deemed "honorary whites" so that the games could proceed.
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Also you can thank Gough Whitlam for Australia doing the right thing because the polling at the time certainly didn't indicate that everyone was on board with sports being cancelled.
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Lid posted:Well some others have done some background checking and found this. Worth mentioning that in 1970, when she said that, by then not only did we all know what Apartheid really was, it was also 2 years after the US passed the Civil Rights Act of 1968 that finally outlawed all of the racial discrimination the Civil Rights movement had been fighting against (and still fights). So Court is actually favourably comparing Apartheid to the Civil Rights Act.
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She's saying that when South Africa refused entry to Arthur Ashe, who stands out as being the only black player in tennis history to win Wimbledon or the US Open or the Australian Open. So yeah refusing entry to a black man, one of the top players of his time, in her own sport is part of "the racial situation rather better organised". It was indefensible then, it's indefensible now.
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"Famous sportsperson very lovely opinions shocker"
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hooman posted:"Famous sportsperson very lovely opinions shocker" Why was her opinion given a huge amount of publicity anyway? Cynical or actual answers welcome.
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Outrageous opinions are solid moneymakers for online media.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Why was her opinion given a huge amount of publicity anyway? Cynical or actual answers welcome. She attacked other tennis players so it was a sport story plus she is one of the two namesakes of Australian Open tennis alongside Rod Laver. She won 24 grand slam singles titles. The other tennis players responded in kind and it escalated from there. It shoyld be noted Margaret Court has been a known homophobe for decades, and would attack Martina Navritolova as in essence an abomination. Posting about that story seemed redundant which is why i didn't bother. It's the apartheid stuff that got to me as even in tennis circles Court gets defended as yes we know shes an insane Christian which is why we try to not give her a microphone, but that can be put to age and religion. This stuff was contemporary and clear racism with white supremacy weaved in.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Why was her opinion given a huge amount of publicity anyway? Cynical or actual answers welcome. She's a tennis legend with a history of making sensationalist comments that 90% of people are going to react to.
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Yeah no one in the 70's-80's was in any doubt about what apartheid was. TBH the patchy sports responses had a stronger impact on opinion than the foot-dragging by the global community. There was also the music community's response which is fairly lolworthy by today's standards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlMdYpnVOGQ
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Why was her opinion given a huge amount of publicity anyway? Cynical or actual answers welcome. Um i think you'll find that she's actually persecuted and silenced by the gay hegemony
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I like the idea that because some horrible as gently caress thought was common at some point, the people who held it are no longer responsible for it. No, gently caress that, everyone who supported apartheid should be called out as a racist fuckwit.
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Who said that?
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open24hours posted:Who said that? Wasn't really meant to be against you or anything. It's a big thing in history that I dislike, your comment that it was probably a common thought just reminded me of it. Sorry.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wasn't really meant to be against you or anything. It's a big thing in history that I dislike, your comment that it was probably a common thought just reminded me of it. Sorry. yeah lovely opinions that are forgiven by "the times" should really only be forgiven once the holder has issued a full retraction with mea culpa and depending on how lovely the opinion was, possibly an apology.
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Court seems more likely to be PW Botha than FW de Klerk.
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It's also extremely unfair to everyone who resisted the mainstream thought and fought against it.
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As a side note the reason Court's specific homophobia stands out is that lesbians in tennis have been open, and comparatively common, for decades. Tennis always stood out from other sports by always having the men and women playing at the same time and given the save coverage, and alongside it gave a lot of voice to being inclusionary (specifically on the womens side it must be said, male tennis players who are out are still a huge minority and no one in the top ten let alone top fifty is out - an infamous event from a year ago was player Sergiy Stakhovsky stating that there were no male homoseuxals in tennis but half of the women were so he wouldn't let his daughter play tennis). Previously mentioned legends Martina Navritolova, Billie Jean King and conemporaries Samantha Stosur, Casey Dellacqua are all prominent LGBT tennis players and its widely seen that women in tennis are very LGBT inclusive. So Court not only being homophobic, but an outspoken homophobe in a sport that was pioneering in LGBT acceptance stands out as being "the gently caress?
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Lid posted:Court seems more likely to be PW Botha than FW de Klerk. "We need to come together and focus on whats really important. "Ending apartheid?" "Rugby tours." https://youtu.be/KhKErCF2mJE
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The Age posted:Guard jailed for kissing asylum seeker at detention centre
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Paingod556 posted:"We need to come together and focus on whats really important. de Klerk at least said sorry and did lead to the end of minority rule, Botha went to the grave essentially saying apartheid would've worked if they just shot more black people which lead to the most correctly vitriolic obituary in history. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2006/nov/02/guardianobituaries.southafrica
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https://twitter.com/joshgnosis/status/869394845948715011 iPads don't have a USB port
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Herald Sun posted:Twelve Australian Tax Office officials sacked over access to private info, tax boss reveals Nothing much else in the article, just faff about the fraud bust.
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Capitalism?
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Bogan King posted:https://twitter.com/joshgnosis/status/869394845948715011 They do have adapters to read SD/USB sticks though. or those stupid WiFi enabled disks work too.
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Laserface posted:They do have adapters to read SD/USB sticks though. It's the IT department scrambling to make that work though not the decision maker who announced it realising what the situation would be before announcing it.
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Bogan King posted:It's the IT department scrambling to make that work though not the decision maker who announced it realising what the situation would be before announcing it. You say that like IT is never scrambling to make someones idea with no experience/knowldedge work how they said it would.
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Laserface posted:You say that like IT is never scrambling to make someones idea with no experience/knowldedge work how they said it would. The fact that it is made to work by the unsung heroes of the computer world is not the point though. It's just that a dumb idea was doubled down on by idiots. ---------------------------------------------
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YouPorn, not Youtube
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If a cream pie is thrown and nobody is watching, does it make an impact?
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The ABC is robbing commercial media of revenue by spending taxpayer dollars on Google and partnering with Netflix, the chief executive of Fairfax Media, Greg Hywood, has told parliament. Hywood stepped up his campaign against the ABC using the search engine Google to promote its content and called on the government to take action against the national broadcaster “undercutting the competitiveness” of the Sydney Morning Herald and the Age.
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Just in case you thought Australia wasn't run by scum [ABC]
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Lid posted:The ABC is robbing commercial media of revenue by spending taxpayer dollars on Google and partnering with Netflix, the chief executive of Fairfax Media, Greg Hywood, has told parliament. Has absolutely no loving care what his journalists have been saying for the last ten years about news media and is throwing a dying fit. You destroyed private media now go gently caress off and let a decent, funded service people like take over.
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quote:There are further signs of heat coming out of the east coast housing market, with Sydney and Melbourne leading a 1.1 per cent fall in property prices across Australia's five largest cities this month. "Which of course means it would be a great time for first home buyers to enter the market" - an increasingly nervous Domain reporter for the 18th time this week
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gay picnic defence posted:"Which of course means it would be a great time for first home buyers to enter the market" - an increasingly nervous Domain reporter for the 18th time this week On that topic! https://www.domain.com.au/advice/how-to-build-a-property-portfolio-from-scratch-20170302-guoucy/
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Lid posted:On that topic! It's missing the 'beneficiary', the 'my dad got me a job at his mate's law firm' and the 'I'm $5.6 million in debt and am completely and utterly hosed unless prices keep going up'
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https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/869461379614253056
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Jobson Growth is a childless bachelor/spinster.
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