Crabtree posted:If RAID wasn't from the ground up made in the image of Payday, I'd be worried for it. But I am not sure OVERKILL can handle making more than one game, let alone radically different genres outside of what they struck gold with. DbD and RAID are each being made by entirely different companies.
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maswastaken posted:What. The. gently caress. Oh, I also neglected to mention that the private games you were thinking of playing with your friends do not allow you to gain blood points. You can queue 4 friends and play a survivor team and gain blood points that way, but the data suggests that survivor wins increase about 1% with a full team, so don't expect that to help!
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May 28, 2017 07:16
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This is why I always thought that these assymetric multiplayer games are poorly thought out at best.
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May 28, 2017 07:18
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clockworkjoe posted:Man, that progression system is a mess. I got DbD but I only put a few hours in it because I could see that the perks were going to be a problem but I had no idea they got that bad. Isn't that game played competitively to some degree? Kikas posted:This is why I always thought that these assymetric multiplayer games are poorly thought out at best. The former survivor gets +15 experience for dropping a bar in the door and arming himself in the first 30 seconds. Jason shows up at his cabin. He arms a bear trap for another 5 XP. Jason hits the trap for +50XP. The survivor jumps out the window, but stumbles into one of Jason's traps and is killed. The survivor also gets another 75 XP for the time he survived. The latter survivor fixes a car all by himself for +150 XP. He escapes for another 200 XP. He also armed himself, dropped a bar, and found a part for another +25 XP. He gets 130 XP for the time he survived. ...Then, both survivors get 500 XP simply for finishing out the match. The former survivor ends up with ~650-700 XP, and the latter survivor ends up with 1000 or so. True, the former survivor has to sit on the line and wait for the match to end, which can be super boring. However, since you're simply DEAD instead of in some ridiculous neutered state you can walk away, take a piss, get water, etc instead of being forced to sit there and impotently press buttons while the game pretends like you matter. F13 can respawn a dead player as Tommy Jarvis as well, so that's also a pretty cool bonus if you hang around.
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May 28, 2017 07:42
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Discendo Vox posted:DbD and RAID are each being made by entirely different companies. The Transitive property of OVERKILL is still involved even if its Lion Game Lion until proved otherwise.If it just has all the flaws of Payday 2 then they've done a good job. But fine, if Vox wants me to be TECHNICALLY CORRECT, than DbD and the constant poo poo parade that is OVERKILL's The Walking Dead make me worried for any other game that isn't Payday made by this company. If anything, it at least explains why they keep looking for an excuse to delay this game of OH MAN, WE-UH-WE NEED TO DEVELOP THIS FOR VR -- YEAH. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 08:48 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 08:44
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The main link between the two games is their publisher, Starbreeze. I'm not aware of any developer overlap between the two games, and honestly, as much as we can string up Jules and Goldfarb for their decisions on PD2, none of what they did compares to a single routine patch in DbD.
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May 28, 2017 09:07
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Guns without access to a speed pull mag feel slow and cumbersome. In response, all guns shall have access to a speed pull mag. All weapons also now use the Gross Motor Skill Reload. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7cyQlsUQ6E
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May 28, 2017 10:07
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Fuuka Ayase posted:Behold and Rejoice, friends. Wilko has named me Dictator of Design. Emphasis on Dictator. I shall rule in his place should he die, find a more lucrative job, or win the lottery. I have a few proclamations outlined in case of such eventualities, but far more to come. 
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May 28, 2017 17:17
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Odd, possibly dumb, question: When configuring my AI bots with their weapons and special bot abilities, does Bot 1 or Bot 3 drop when a friend joins my game? Thus, which number bot will still be in the game if a third human joins? AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 28, 2017 |
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May 28, 2017 23:21
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Odd, possibly dumb, question: Bot 1 = player 4, bot 2 = player 3, bot 3 = player 2 Doesn't seem to matter when gun you give them, I've handed a Mosin to my bots and they just treat it as a semi-auto blasting shots out.
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May 28, 2017 23:28
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Shima Honnou posted:Bot 1 = player 4, bot 2 = player 3, bot 3 = player 2 I was just trying to figure out how to, say, make sure that if we have three humans and one bot, to make sure the one bot has inspire.
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May 28, 2017 23:34
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Argh you quoted me before I could finish editing that phone-posting autocorrected monstrosity. Make sure bot 1, the one in the leftmost position, has it.
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May 29, 2017 03:40
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Shima Honnou posted:Make sure bot 1, the one in the leftmost position, has it.
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May 29, 2017 04:16
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Mask Roulette!  This can only mean one thing... 
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May 29, 2017 06:58
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A notable factor with the AI bots is that masks stick to ability sets and not characters. My original plan of giving my AI's the mega-versions of their own masks got upset by this and we wound up having Rust running around in Mega-Clover. I switched mine to a doctor's mask for the healer, commando beret for the ammo regenner and balaclava for the speed buffer. EDIT: You know, we rag on One Down a lot, but that game mode is basically why I can now play 91 armor/5 dodge on mayhem and feel like I'm acceptably durable. I can get shot at all without falling over? It's fiiiiiine. chairface fucked around with this message at 10:17 on May 29, 2017 |
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May 29, 2017 07:04
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This proves nothing.
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May 29, 2017 21:30
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Your name and icon are pretty damning evidence for "might be a manga"
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May 29, 2017 23:12
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Does the Raid actually look good? I've seen sod-all about it and it's supposed to be out any month now.
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Gort posted:Does the Raid actually look good? I've seen sod-all about it and it's supposed to be out any month now. Difficult to say. It looks all right, but it will undoubtedly (and very understandably) be much more limited in scope than PD2. General objective-based flow is similar, meds and ammo are apparently all found onsite rather than deployable. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 02:40 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 02:20
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If there's one thing I don't ever tire of, it's killing Nazis
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May 31, 2017 02:33
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Gort posted:Does the Raid actually look good? I've seen sod-all about it and it's supposed to be out any month now. The gameplay they've had at conventions for a year or so now is really good. It's more PDTH than Payday 2, in a good way. Less super powerful weaponry, less superhuman enemies running around, more big level-changing objectives.
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HebrewMagic posted:If there's one thing I don't ever tire of, it's killing Nazis Payday 2 is already about this though!
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bbcisdabomb posted:The gameplay they've had at conventions for a year or so now is really good. It's more PDTH than Payday 2, in a good way. Less super powerful weaponry, less superhuman enemies running around, more big level-changing objectives. Yeah, I honestly haven't touched Payday 2 in a while, but I'm excited for Raid because it has sounded pretty solid and focused from first-hand impressions, and also HebrewMagic posted:If there's one thing I don't ever tire of, it's killing Nazis and taking their stuff
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For sprees, the arbiter and china puff drop off in usefulness somewhat dramatically. Enemies will regularly start surviving a bombardment through simple HP, and specials will easily tank several shots even from a puff. Particularly nasty for mixed groups of cops bearing down on people cause everything dangerous in a wave is still alive and costing you even more ammo on a weapon that soaks up ammo drops. I got the idea to bring along a rocket launcher instead. The RPG is still where you'd imagine it; 10k a shot for 4 shots is too valuable to justify using the majority of the time. The commando, however, clocks in at 5k a shot with 8 total shots and 4 per clip. That's just enough value to justify for group bombardment, and things will not survive a hit from it even with spree's ridiculous rules. The splash area is also gigabig, covering far more area than a single china puff shot could ever hope to cover either. The shot economy rises so much that it's inability to pick up ammo off the ground ceases mattering. If anything, not having your grenade launcher constantly sucking up ammo (wasting them on a primary that is perhaps full on ammo or near enough full) turns in to an advantage as well. I needed more rockets little enough that visiting an ammo bag a meager amount of times in a heist wasn't a big deal. The rest of the time, spare ammo pickups were left sitting around for later, or for others. Less repeat shots to kill, and a bigger kill zone ensuring more kills per shot. Nothing to sneeze at. I'd say the commando might even have a legitimate space on MH/DW when you're not spreeing. Save it for when you can sweep up truly big groups of cops and you're good. The splash is certainly big enough to find plenty of occasions where that'll be true. Just.. don't get tased while holding it. Trust me.
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I played Raid at PAX a little while back, it was really janky and needed a lot of polish, but the general gameplay felt pretty good and the objectives of the map I played were more interesting than Payday's typically are and involved actually hopping on an AA-gun and shooting down nazi planes which was real cool.
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Fuuka Ayase posted:For sprees, the arbiter and china puff drop off in usefulness somewhat dramatically. Enemies will regularly start surviving a bombardment through simple HP, and specials will easily tank several shots even from a puff. Particularly nasty for mixed groups of cops bearing down on people cause everything dangerous in a wave is still alive and costing you even more ammo on a weapon that soaks up ammo drops. I'm kinda tempted to try avoiding the "dozers immune to explosive damage" in favor of further hp/damage buffs for cops just so rockets can take out those jacked-up skulldozers that seemingly spawn in groups now. I also had two instances of seeing a lone dozer, going "Oh hey I can take a lone dozer even at these stat buffs" and the bastard divides into a green and black dozer cuz it's spawning them on top of each other at that point.
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Crabtree posted:The Transitive property of OVERKILL is still involved even if its Lion Game Lion until proved otherwise.If it just has all the flaws of Payday 2 then they've done a good job. The shittiest thing, for OK, about TWD is that they're aiming for a late 2018 release. TWD's cultural relevancy will be a year dead at least by then.
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Liquid Communism posted:The shittiest thing, for OK, about TWD is that they're aiming for a late 2018 release. TWD's cultural relevancy will be a year dead at least by then. Will it be walking though? 
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chairface posted:I also had two instances of seeing a lone dozer, going "Oh hey I can take a lone dozer even at these stat buffs" and the bastard divides into a green and black dozer cuz it's spawning them on top of each other at that point. That's just the multiform technique. The dozers learn if from some weird guy with no shirt and three eyes.
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Can someone post an updated Discord invite? The one in the OP is expired. e: vvv most excellent, thank you. But Not Tonight fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Jun 1, 2017 00:52
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Payday 2 Goons discord is under new management and the admin doesn't want evergreen public invites. Check PMs.
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Well this should get interesting: https://www.10chambers.com/press_31-05-2017.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i4XkCFf2pY
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Kammat posted:Well this should get interesting: https://www.10chambers.com/press_31-05-2017.html they could not have picked a dumber name
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spit on my clit posted:they could not have picked a dumber name
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Wake me when they have gameplay to show off.
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If Ulf was design lead on payday 1, that's actually a pretty good endorsement. And it's already looking better than Goldfarb's new thing.
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Discendo Vox posted:If Ulf was design lead on payday 1, that's actually a pretty good endorsement. worth noting: they have an ambassador program for GTFO on the game site, vox. may be worth tossing your email into the ring early.
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Coolguye posted:worth noting: they have an ambassador program for GTFO on the game site, vox. may be worth tossing your email into the ring early. There are a ton of us in this thread who are 10 chambers "ambassadors". It's just a email list where you get drip fed updates like the one that Kammat posted.
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that's what i suspected, though i'd hoped for more. oh well.
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