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TheChirurgeon posted:I'll take that bet, since the visuals line up with the idea that they're just taking old dreadnought sarcophoguseses and putting them into bigger chasiseses Remember, it's literally called the "Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought", so it really seems like they're leaning towards this thing being for bigmarines. At most, they might remain agnostic about who you can stick inside.
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i like the possibility of the fluff saying that dying smol marines can go inside, but only if they are embiggened first. This will provide GW ample opportunity to insert some additional grim-dark by saying the marines go through painful operations much like their original transformation, but in death.
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they take the small boy marine and insert him into the chest cavity of a bigmar, then they stuff it turducken like into the dreadnaught
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I haven't really been paying too close attention, but I keep hearing GW is good again. What happened?
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May 31, 2017 06:53
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Gw put some little dudes into big dudes like a matryoshka doll and now people think they're cool again. Size matters to GW fans.
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May 31, 2017 06:57
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Wait until they release the bigly Rhinos and Predators that are the same size as Landraiders
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NTRabbit posted:Wait until they release the bigly Rhinos and Predators that are the same size as Landraiders They already showed one. It's a landraider with a turret.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:They already showed one. It's a landraider with a turret. If you mean these guys, they are unrelated (GW just reused the name "Primaris" because why wouldn't they): 
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Avenging Dentist posted:If you mean these guys, they are unrelated (GW just reused the name "Primaris" because why wouldn't they): Naw, I mean this thing. 
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May 31, 2017 08:13
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Naw, I mean this thing. A large action man infront of a tonka toy? 
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Irate Tree posted:A large action man infront of a tonka toy? Well if that's your jam then mums the word on this hot 8th ed LoW daemon engine leak I got for you- 
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It looks like he's crazy for smashing chickens and cows flat but also wanted to cover his bases by installing handle bars on his head, so people could use him as a get away car in the inevitable farm yard revolt.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Naw, I mean this thing. Now wait until they release the bigly Landraider the same size as a Mastodon!
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anti_strunt posted:I'm not sure what to think about it - I like the design, but the sheer scale creep is giving me pause. You weren't paused at the scale creep of the Dreadknight? Or the Riptide? Or the Wraithknight? Game's been too drat large for a good while now.
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kingcom posted:Unironically looking forward to the FFG sci-fi wargame using some custom dice to break the entire rolling mechanic down to 1 roll from each player and still keeping the complexity of different units being good/bad against different things. Infinity does this, instead of combining armor save into the wounding roll like Warmachine it combines the wounding roll into the armor save, or in other wounds every hit automatically wounds and a model's ability to resist damage is completely relegated to the armor roll. You then have like a billion things that can modify these 2 rolls to make various weapons behave differently against an array of targets at given ranges. It makes Infinity games really confusing to follow at first but once you get into it it's a quick and brutal game where both players always feel involved. I like it.
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AgentF posted:You weren't paused at the scale creep of the Dreadknight? Or the Riptide? Or the Wraithknight? Game's been too drat large for a good while now. Those were at least new models now obviously replacing anything. The prime dread is pretty much declaring the slow choking of old marines. They're slowly going to replace everything one at a time. There will be like chaos infused hell brutes to replace tiny ones for example.
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To be honest I don't see the point, from a business perspective, of increasing the scale of standard models. 40K is a space draining hobby as it is, and making everything bigger would either require even larger gaming spaces (forcing some out of the hobby) or make people downsize their average battles. Back in the 90s/00s I could buy that scale creep was close to necessary to make more detailed models, but that really can't be the case today.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Well if that's your jam then mums the word on this hot 8th ed LoW daemon engine leak I got for you- I'd buy that for a dollar!
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anti_strunt posted:To be honest I don't see the point, from a business perspective, of increasing the scale of standard models. 40K is a space draining hobby as it is, and making everything bigger would either require even larger gaming spaces (forcing some out of the hobby) or make people downsize their average battles. "You're seriously going to try to call those tiny Mantic Enforcers 'Primaris Marines?'"
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AgentF posted:You weren't paused at the scale creep of the Dreadknight? Or the Riptide? Or the Wraithknight? Game's been too drat large for a good while now. I really liked the models for some of the new Eldar stuff (like the Wraithknight and the flyers) but lord they are all so huge there is no way I could reasonably transport them. I don't really understand how any of this stuff fits on the table anymore. I have more or less the same problem with Warmachine now, the Colossals look cool but are just so big to actually lug around.
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I do kind of like the design of the bigmarines, since they work as 'true scale' miniatures. If only they were able to fit onto 28mm bases, I might even buy a squad or two to use as Enforcers in Deadzone. But alas, it seems it is not to be.
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I'm starting to see complaints in the FB community wargaming groups I'm part of saying that instead of accepting the new points systems as they are, they would rather increase the points systems for games so they get to keep bringing all the apocalypse bullshit into their platoon-level wargame.  Meanwhile, the infinity groups I'm part of constantly try to bring normal infantry instead of the larger robot mechs so they can keep it in an acceptably small lunchbox to bring to work for weekday miniatures games.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Well if that's your jam then mums the word on this hot 8th ed LoW daemon engine leak I got for you- Didn't they already make that except with metal spider legs?
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Bad Moon posted:Didn't they already make that except with metal spider legs? They did but people keep wanting to paint it in gaudy grimdark colors instead of that sweet 90s look.
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Bad Moon posted:Didn't they already make that except with metal spider legs? They also made exactly that:  anti_strunt posted:40K is a space draining hobby as it is, and making everything bigger would ... make people downsize their average battles. This is a good thing though.
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Yeah 40k is clearly a bunch of skirmish size models crammed into way-too-big armies. Also I legitimately like the bigmars the more I look at them. If they just flat-out replaced regular marines that'd be fine. They were comically squat, smaller than cadians even. I would totally play a good skirmish game with like 10-20 line bigmars, a leader, 5-10 support bigmars, and one vehicle. Even the newer vehicles look better if you still like the goofy imperial grimdark designs. They're way better than poo poo like the box flyers or any of the recent big age of sigmar or end times things.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah 40k is clearly a bunch of skirmish size models crammed into way-too-big armies. Let me tell you about Warpath Firefight...
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Yvonmukluk posted:Let me tell you about Warpath Firefight... Look man I have the rulebook already I'll check it out further when they relase the not!Tyranids army okay?
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I don't get why people are upset about the size of the new stuff for tsbling. They're jewel like objects of wonder, you don't have to play games with them. Put them in your glass display case and leave them
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ilmucche posted:Put them in your butt and leave them. The extra size enhances the experience.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Naw, I mean this thing. That's a sweet looking conversion back there.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:That's a sweet looking conversion back there.
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Soulfucker posted:Look man I have the rulebook already I'll check it out further when they relase the not!Tyranids army okay? You could technically do a not!Genestealer Cult with Plague already, you know...
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Now that everything is basically leaked its fun to watch the "everything is fine" blinders go on. Its not the game everyone thought it would be clearly an of course the books have errors already. Thing is there was nothing really stopping them from releasing full codexes on release. Just starter books then make everyone shell out for "real" codexes later, love it.
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Moola posted:I bought a board and I'm making a Deadzone board Anxiously awaits board to come out looking like a big ol' cake 
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Indolent Bastard posted:Anxiously awaits board to come out looking like a big ol' cake One giant brownie to rule them all.
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For_Great_Justice posted:Now that everything is basically leaked its fun to watch the "everything is fine" blinders go on. Its not the game everyone thought it would be clearly an of course the books have errors already.  I can't hear you over the sound of people being mad over some get you by rules.
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I think get you by rules are great, I just think they should be free.
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