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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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kustomkarkommando posted:Brexit is happening, realign your epistemes. it'd be interesting to see if the EU decide to care about strictly interpreting rules towards the UK, I can't imagine corporate infrastructure competition is too high on the agenda tbh. Although Germany get a shitload of money from the trains, don't they?
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Nothing is set in stone anymore. Will we brexit? Maybe, but maybe labour wins, maybe the talks get delayed. Maybe a few more facts about brexit come out and labour can spin the whole thing as "the public were rational actors with incomplete information". Politics is in a weird place at the moment.
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Tesseraction posted:I like to imagine they did but it was all harmless poo poo about jam and allotments so they tore their hair out in frustration Oberleutnant posted:Capitalism.txt, 1905 edition:
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Jun 1, 2017 16:59
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Oberleutnant posted:I have zero actual evidence for what I'm about to say, but something tells me your average brexiteering kipper wouldn't be too phased by Farage being bezzie mates with Putin, because Putin's the kinda strongman arsehole that a lot of kippers think is great. Even criminal collusion to rig an election probably wouldn't both them too much, because who would Farage be stitching up in this scenario? A bunch of traitors who hate britain! I remember thinking after the American election that Putin was to put out a wish list of how he wanted politics within NATO to go over the last ten years that you'd be hard-pressed to tell it apart from how it's actually going. However this all presupposes that a) the FSB are actually competent at things other than enriching themselves and b) that the West isn't perfectly capable of hitting their own self-destruct button. However I could certainly believe a conspiracy theory that the FSB have been busy planting evidence that they're behind everything from the credit crunch to Brexit, because holy poo poo what a great way of guaranteeing your budget in perpetuity. e: oops, "we" for "he" is one hell of a typo and certainly not Freudian at all...
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Jun 1, 2017 17:01
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Wouldn't any Russian intervention more likely attack the Tories anyway? Wouldn't Corbyn's foreign policy of stopping arms deals with brutal dictatorships and plotting a more non-interventionist course be more amenable to Russia?
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Spangly A posted:it'd be interesting to see if the EU decide to care about strictly interpreting rules towards the UK, I can't imagine corporate infrastructure competition is too high on the agenda tbh. Although Germany get a shitload of money from the trains, don't they? Considering recent EC actions over state aid in regard to Ireland and Luxembourg and noises made by Macron about closing the tax gap and the general balance of trade I think the EU is going to be quite bullish on insisting the UK maintain state aid rules as they exist - which Corbyn himself has stated he believes needs reformed
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Jun 1, 2017 17:03
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Russian interference isn't going to land with the British public for the same reason it isn't really landing as much some people want to believe it is/will in America; as far as people are concerned they made a decision based on what they were presented with, and don't really see how Russian interference changes that, especially since they are used to politicians spinning things as a matter of course. Saying the Russians influenced the result is just telling the public that they were duped in some way, and that never works even when the method of deception is crystal clear, or that the result is null and void for Reasons, which for most people reads as trying to weasel out of it.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:05
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In the event of a Labour government I can deffo see that being a bone of contention that would put single market membership in the long grass
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wouldn't any Russian intervention more likely attack the Tories anyway? Wouldn't Corbyn's foreign policy of stopping arms deals with brutal dictatorships and plotting a more non-interventionist course be more amenable to Russia? Assuming they're genius puppet masters with a magic wand they'd probably want a hung Tory parliament, as that's the result most likely to result in the most chaotic possible Brexit process, and keeping the entire EU off-balance is both easier and probably far more profitable for them than having the UK as a client state. As it is there's probably nothing they could actually do to press any particular result over any other because let's face it UK politics are a catastrofuck and any attempts to stir the pot would probably backfire spectacularly.
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I guess it depends on how much power Macron actually has then - I can imagine there are a quite a few people in the French government and elsewhere in Europe who would probably want those rules reformed as well. Also I wonder how much Macron wants to gently caress May, maybe we'll catch him eyeing up her cleavage like Gideon did
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Jun 1, 2017 17:13
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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/870310676501278720 lmao
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Jun 1, 2017 17:14
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Blood very much in the water these past few days
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Jun 1, 2017 17:18
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She should send Boris instead.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:20
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"If I keep doing it, eventually the papers will get sick of running the same story and I won't look weak anymore!"
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Jun 1, 2017 17:20
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Just wanted to share a choice quote from the Economist article, it's about the LibDems: " They are more honest than the Tories about the need to raise taxes for public services; and more sensible than Labour, spreading the burden rather than leaning only on high-earners." Oh yeah, won't someone think of the poor corporations and the 1%?
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Jun 1, 2017 17:21
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insanely Strong And Stable move imo
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Jun 1, 2017 17:21
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At least she didn't send Philip Davies.
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Flatscan posted:She should send Boris instead. She is still thinking really hard about Brexit and should not be disturbed.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:21
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This doesn't stop being funny.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:22
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At this point Im starting to wonder if Theresa May actually exists and isn't just the result of some kind of Fight Club-esque national psychotic break.
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Random Integer posted:At this point Im starting to wonder if Theresa May actually exists and isn't just the result of some kind of Fight Club-esque national psychotic break.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:24
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loving hell, what's going on over there? Not showing up to the debate was a gamble that obviously didn't pay off, even a whole interview of nothing like the video from Plymouth would be better than another no–show. They must be just doing non-stop prep for the Question Time thing tomorrow.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:24
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Do we know how pollsters have changed their models since 2015? Have any pollsters (in particular yougov) said how their polls would look if they were still using the 2015 model?
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Jun 1, 2017 17:24
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OwlFancier posted:Has he even played openttd? No he played the original version, but it was the playstation port that took up an entire memory card for one save.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:25
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Mr. Nemo posted:Oh yeah, won't someone think of the poor corporations and the 1%? *extremely neoliberal voice* Actually because the government collects most of its tax through VAT and income tax to really increase the tax intake you want it to be wide over the population rather than deep. Radio 4 PM had someone from the Economist saying why free market liberals think May sucks which was pretty fun. I really do wonder now if Mays godawful performance will speed up the split between wet and dry Tories even as their lead narrows.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:25
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Random Integer posted:At this point Im starting to wonder if Theresa May actually exists and isn't just the result of some kind of Fight Club-esque national psychotic break. May is Britain's weak imagining of Thatcher. We can even get that right.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:27
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Theresa May is currently sitting under a waterfall, focusing all her ki towards brexit, and you're all going to look like assholes when she reappears.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:28
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MikeCrotch posted:I guess it depends on how much power Macron actually has then - I can imagine there are a quite a few people in the French government and elsewhere in Europe who would probably want those rules reformed as well. Remember the CETA investment courts issue that the EU insisted on - and the UK has been abiding by, and pushed strongly for, existing EU state aid rules for decades unlike Canada and those are considerably stricter Demanding continuity of regulations for continuity of tariff free access seems extremely plausible
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Jun 1, 2017 17:29
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quote:Rudd did well last night, not only given the inevitable team-up by the 'Bankrupt Britain Alliance', but also given she lost her father on Monday. 
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Jun 1, 2017 17:30
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Theresa May has entered the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to train at 10x gravity to prepare for a 50 episode Brexit negotiations arc.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:31
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namesake posted:*extremely neoliberal voice* Actually because the government collects most of its tax through VAT and income tax to really increase the tax intake you want it to be wide over the population rather than deep. I'm not sure what wet and dry tories are, but they sound even more repulsive than your normal run of the mill tory.
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Not Operator posted:Theresa May is currently sitting under a waterfall, focusing all her ki towards brexit, and you're all going to look like assholes when she reappears. 『 ｔｈｅ ｓｐｉｒｉｔ ｂｒｅｘｉｔ ?? ｉｍｐｏｓｓｉｂｌｅ !!ｉ ｔｈｏｕｇｈｔ ｉｔ ｗａｓ ｊｕｓｔ ａ ｌｅｇｅｎｄ... 』
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Jun 1, 2017 17:32
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Gove is a wet tory. He always looks so moist like he's made of a disgusting meat jelly. Wetlips Gove. Same as Davey Cameron; moist.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:33
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Oberleutnant posted:Gove is a wet tory. He always looks so moist like he's made of a disgusting meat jelly. Wetlips Gove. Same as Davey Cameron; moist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tx_CaXqp9U
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Oberleutnant posted:Gove is a wet tory. He always looks so moist like he's made of a disgusting meat jelly. Wetlips Gove. Same as Davey Cameron; moist. A lot of their more inhuman moments blend together, so I'd appreciate a reminder: is Gove the one who claps like he just grew hands that morning?
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Jun 1, 2017 17:35
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God that appearance with Corbyn and Thornberry, enjoying themselves and playfully smack-talking journalists. Can you imagine a government with actual human beings in it?
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Jun 1, 2017 17:35
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https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/870308092046696452 A good lad.
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Oberleutnant posted:Gove is a wet tory. He always looks so moist like he's made of a disgusting meat jelly. Wetlips Gove. Same as Davey Cameron; moist. Mostly because he gets water all over himself when he drinks it like a fuckwit.
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Jun 1, 2017 17:35
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Imagine Gove all sweaty and bloated and red faced, smacking and licking his lips as he moves in for a damp slobbery kiss.
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Not Operator posted:A lot of their more inhuman moments blend together, so I'd appreciate a reminder: is Gove the one who claps like he just grew hands that morning? Yeah i think so
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