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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
Three Lib Dem leaflets, two Labour and one Tory since Tuesday. Lib Dems scrapping their hearts away

1st June 1812, U.S. President James Madison asks the Congress to declare war on the United Kingdom

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Lord_Adonis posted:

If sense does not return to the House of Commons, then I can see no alternative but for the Armed Forces to step in and allow for a government of national unity to be formed, which can put an end to this Brexit madness.

Hahahahaha.

Military dictatorship: the sane option.

Go outside mate.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Hahahahaha.

Military dictatorship: the sane option.

Go outside mate.

I mean, we did actually try this for a bit in the 17th century. Didn't take.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Lord_Adonis posted:

If sense does not return to the House of Commons, then I can see no alternative but for the Armed Forces to step in and allow for a government of national unity to be formed, which can put an end to this Brexit madness.

Mate, that's a teeny bit odd.

I don't think people are going to go for it, I think that the best we can hope for is a Norway style trade deal, and that wouldn't be bad necessarily. Maybe not as good as what we have now, but not bad.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/ed_miliband/status/870387084607008768

Lord_Adonis posted:

If sense does not return to the House of Commons, then I can see no alternative but for the Armed Forces to step in and allow for a government of national unity to be formed, which can put an end to this Brexit madness.


Yeah this post needs to gently caress off as far as possible.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
I'd say Germany has been the main beneficiary of the single market tbh.


edit:

Fascinating stat

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/870391582352125953

you'd think at least Germany would contribute more.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
*in 70s authoritarian voice* We must have a NASHNAL EMARGENCY GOVERMUNT to stop the SCARJ of pop-u-lism.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Oliver Cromwell 2017 for a bold policy on Ireland, the monarchy and Catholics.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Pissflaps posted:

I posted weeks ago that I was voting Labour.

Honest question to you Pissflaps: having seen how enormous the momentum Corbyn with support from the PLP can achieve, what do you think should happen after the election? I do agree with you that Tories will probably still have a majority - there was simply too much ground to make up in too little time - but has your opinion on how unelectable Corbyn is changed? Previously, you've said that the election would be his test, and I personally think the sheer strength of the spike he's achieved shows just how much Labour can do with him at the helm, if they consider cooperating with him in the future.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
[nodding home countiesishly] yes now there was a figure of strength and stability

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Lord_Adonis posted:

The people need to be told, straight down the line, that Brexit is impossible- that a century of venal behaviour from our Business/Financial class and Politicians of all parties ensuring a consistent malaise of underinvestment in plant, infrastructure, productivity and R&D, a poor standard of technical education, the totally unnecessary 'managed decline' of industry and industrial communities, sick reliance on service industries and a yawing trade deficit have made it impossible for the UK to pay its way in the world outside of the Single Market, that outside of Eastern Europe and the Balkans, the UK has been THE MAIN BENEFICIARY of the Single Market and EU. The people need to be made aware of the entirely negative consequences for their standard of living that will inevitably ensue from Brexit- that we could see three million or more lose their homes, millions more become dependent on food banks and public services fall into the void left by plummeting tax receipts as businesses and inward investment flee to the continent. The people need to be told that in a generation, it will be their children who are the economic migrants- the fruit pickers on Farms in France, Italy and Spain, the cheap tradesmen on building sites in Germany and the Carers in Vienna, Bratislava and Stockholm- 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' was but a glimpse of the future.

The people must be saved from themselves. Had Bertold Brecht said ''Would it not be easier In that case for the government to dissolve the people and elect another?'' of the UK post Brexit referendum, he would have been absolutely correct! If a proportion of the 52% who voted out act hysterically and violently in response to this truth, are there not Policemen with batons and Soldiers with Rubber-Bullet magazines ready to be employed for such a contingency? If they can be set upon Black people protesting against police brutality in Brixton, Lambeth, Tottenham and Toxteth, then surely they can also defend the national interest in the White streets of Thanet, Tilbury, Boston, Tunbridge Wells, Keighley, St Ives and Scunthorpe?


If sense does not return to the House of Commons, then I can see no alternative but for the Armed Forces to step in and allow for a government of national unity to be formed, which can put an end to this Brexit madness.

Odd capitalisation, Sir I must ask have you written this Post from the Year of Our Lord Eighteen Hundred and Seventy?

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Pissflaps posted:

I haven't had a single person knock on my door and beg for my vote so far. Disappointed.

They're not sending any more till you release the 2015 lot

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Are we still doing guesses?


Con - 340
Lab - 230
SNP - 42

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SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC


Seems like a good angle of attack, all but the most swivel-eyed of Conservatives seem to rightfully hate Trump's guts from what I've seen.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

dex_sda posted:

Honest question to you Pissflaps: having seen how enormous the momentum Corbyn with support from the PLP can achieve, what do you think should happen after the election? I do agree with you that Tories will probably still have a majority - there was simply too much ground to make up in too little time - but has your opinion on how unelectable Corbyn is changed? Previously, you've said that the election would be the test, and I personally think the sheer strength of the spike he's achieved shows just how much Labour can achieve with him at the helm, if they consider cooperating with him in the future.

Honest answer:

Corbyn has far exceeded my expectations of how he would perform in an election, and has run easily the better campaign. He's a much improved politician compared to, say, six months ago. While I have big misgivings over his defence and foreign policy positions, I see enough good in his domestic policies that I want to see him as Prime Minister.

Having said that, I think we're currently in a very febrile stage of the election. All these cheering crowds we see on twitter videos and rallies and surges in the polls. It's going to mean nothing on the calm of the election day itself. There's not a doubt in my mind that the Tories will be returned with an extremely comfortable majority.

And this is a Tory leadership that has shown itself to be utterly incapable of running an election campaign. It's getting laughed at during debates, mocked on social media, the press has turned on it. It's utterly beatable. Labour should win this election. But it won't - and that's because the guy at the top carries too much baggage. He isn't a prime minister and all the people you don't see tweeting and cheering and laughing simply won't vote for him.


A while back I called him the Boaty McBoatface of politics and I think that holds true now more than ever. Right now it's very exciting and anything seems possible, but we're going to wake up on Friday 9th with a big Blue hangover.

Stay hydrated.




edit: i didnt actually answer the question. If Corbyn fails to deliver a Labour government he should resign.

Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 1, 2017

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Pissflaps posted:

I haven't had a single person knock on my door and beg for my vote so far. Disappointed.

I guess they have you on ignore, have you checked with your neighbours to ensure they have at least quoted you?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The military dictatorship thing does have some appeal, in that last time around it led shortly after to a bourgeois revolution and the penning of an actual written bill of rights.

Maybe this time around it'll be constitutional socialism under Supreme Comrade Skinner.

Plus we might get to be clubmen. Although most of those got killed.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I guess they have you on ignore, have you checked with your neighbours to ensure they have at least quoted you?

:ssh: They don't have me on ignore really.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Goons, it is Question Time. Come to #ukgoons on synirc (link in OP).

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/870393075696316416

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Boaty McBoatface won.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Boaty McBoatface won.

But it's not what the ship was named.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Guavanaut posted:

The military dictatorship thing does have some appeal, in that last time around it led shortly after to a bourgeois revolution and the penning of an actual written bill of rights.
I don't think a guy turning up on a boat and saying only prods can have guns is a very good revolution.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The boat on board the ship was named Boaty McBoatface.

e: ^^ By all accounts it was glorious.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

What's with the explosion of nerd glasses on QT?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

BBC QT on TV rite now!

Join us on IRC as always #ukgoons @ irc.syncirc.net

Crispix is too busy being hungover to advertise.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Tesseraction posted:

BBC QT on TV rite now!

Join us on IRC as always #ukgoons @ irc.syncirc.net

Crispix is too busy being hungover to advertise.


crispix posted:

Goons, it is Question Time. Come to #ukgoons on synirc (link in OP).

hrmmmmmmm

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Guavanaut posted:

The boat on board the ship was named Boaty McBoatface.

It wasn't a boat was it? Just a boring science torpedo.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

gg

https://twitter.com/AlbertoNardelli/status/870393670327054336

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Tesseraction posted:

BBC QT on TV rite now!

Join us on IRC as always #ukgoons @ irc.syncirc.net

Crispix is too busy being hungover to advertise.

He should have stayed #hydrated

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

NotJustANumber99 posted:

It wasn't a boat was it? Just a boring science torpedo.

How the gently caress is a science torpedo boring?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

TheRat posted:

hrmmmmmmm

yeah well I advertised closer to the time

okay fine I slandered him erroneously

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


THINKING ABOUT BREXIT CAN'T SIGN PAPER.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

It wasn't a boat was it? Just a boring science torpedo.
By naval definitions it's still a boat.
:goonsay:

OwlFancier posted:

How the gently caress is a science torpedo boring?
Maybe it has a drill. :downsrim:

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

OwlFancier posted:

How the gently caress is a science torpedo boring?

Because I'm a child and it doesn't go boom.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

my man

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The only boring torpedo is a liquorice one.

Lord_Adonis
Mar 2, 2015

by Smythe

jBrereton posted:

*in 70s authoritarian voice* We must have a NASHNAL EMARGENCY GOVERMUNT to stop the SCARJ of pop-u-lism.

It would be a better outcome than the UK re-enacting what occurred in Russia from 1991 onwards, both in a financial sense (Run on the pound, hyperinflation, drop in national credit rating and trade deficit oblivion resulting in the Treasury and Bank of England going bankrupt, resulting in all national and public sector assets being privatised, sold off and stripped of anything of value) and political sense (A union dissolved- Scotland first, followed shortly after by Northern Ireland, then Wales some years later, with Cornwall gone in the longer term). I cannot understand why so many people hold so much misplaced confidence in the ability of our national economy, which has been dysfunctional for a whole century now, to successfully operate outside of the Single Market without a fatal loss of jobs and inward investment.

The intervention of the armed forces would only be necessary in the event that the Far-Right Brexit zealots in parliament seek to override and suppress sane remain voices in Parliament, and as such refuse to step down in favour of a Remain Government of National Unity. They need only be deployed on the streets if the Brexit-UKIP-EDL mouth-breathing wreckers commit violent acts in defiance of the national interest.

Populism kills. It killed two people in Portland, Oregon a few days ago. Populism sets neighbour against neighbour, colleague against colleague and Brother against Brother. It destroys economies and renders working people destitute. When a population are ensnared by its false promises, they must be shown the truth.

I am no fan of Oliver Cromwell- indeed, Brexit must be halted to preserve peace in Ireland, North and South.

I am not advocating for a Military Dictatorship- the only role for the Military in the extreme case would be to create political space for the formation of a Government of National Unity that can go to Brussels, Cap in Hand, with a contrite attitude to negotiate an end to Brexit, and our resumption of EU membership in good standing.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

OwlFancier posted:

The only boring torpedo is a liquorice one.

You may or may not find this torpedo boring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysUjYAi0WcQ

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Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Guys, trust me on this - you don't want a military dictatorship. Trust me, we had SIX of those, and they're bad, okay.

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