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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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I think if we wanted a military dictatorship, we'd probably need a fully staffed and funded military
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:57 |
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OwlFancier posted:The only boring torpedo is a liquorice one. Oh really?
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:58 |
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Lord_Adonis posted:It would be a better outcome than the UK re-enacting what occurred in Russia from 1991 onwards, both in a financial sense (Run on the pound, hyperinflation, drop in national credit rating and trade deficit oblivion resulting in the Treasury and Bank of England going bankrupt, resulting in all national and public sector assets being privatised, sold off and stripped of anything of value) and political sense (A union dissolved- Scotland first, followed shortly after by Northern Ireland, then Wales some years later, with Cornwall gone in the longer term). I cannot understand why so many people hold so much misplaced confidence in the ability of our national economy, which has been dysfunctional for a whole century now, to successfully operate outside of the Single Market without a fatal loss of jobs and inward investment. Crikey
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:58 |
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Pochoclo posted:Guys, trust me on this - you don't want a military dictatorship. Trust me, we had SIX of those, and they're bad, okay. But were those military interventions into politics conceived of to protect Liberal Democracy from far-right sabotage, and implemented in a strictly time-limited context?
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:58 |
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Lord_Adonis posted:But were those military interventions into politics conceived of to protect Liberal Democracy from far-right sabotage, and implemented in a strictly time-limited context?
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:59 |
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Lord_Adonis posted:But were those military interventions into politics conceived of to protect Liberal Democracy from far-right sabotage, and implemented in a strictly time-limited context? Ask el-Sisi.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:59 |
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TheRat posted:You may or may not find this torpedo boring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysUjYAi0WcQ I have no idea what I'm watching but I like it better than the original.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 22:59 |
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Pissflaps posted:Honest answer: While I understand your points and agree with some of what you said (especially the first and third paragraph), I feel you are underestimating the context and the sheer extent of the damage all the PLP skullduggery did. Yes, Corbyn carried baggage into this election, and that's what's gonna cost Labour, but it is my thesis that he's not the one to blame for most of those previous missteps. Furthermore, he's quickly proven himself to be able to rise out of adversity, in force. This is exactly what a leftist party in a country overran by Murdoch rags needs. I think the Labour backbenchers can see this too, and might be prepared to try working with him in the future. This in turn might lead to something much needed these days: an honest to god party drifting to the left. I've read their manifesto, and if this is what united Labour under Corbyn aims to achieve, it's well worth letting him continue after a lost snap election. I guess my point is: winning every fight is not the only way to make a difference. If this was milquetoast same old same old blairism losing yet again, yeah, the guy at the helm should resign. But I think this is someone with principles making his party better, and he's now proven how effective a campaign he can run in the future. Thanks for answering. dex_sda fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:01 |
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OwlFancier posted:I have no idea what I'm watching but I like it better than the original. In that case you may enjoy this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9evhR-iJSE
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:02 |
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TheRat posted:In that case you may enjoy this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9evhR-iJSE Already watching it. It is reinforcing my belief that Norway is an ideal society. E: help I'm stuck in weird Norwegian land https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diCdDIgoOwQ OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:03 |
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dex_sda posted:While I understand your points and agree with some of what you said (especially the first and third paragraph), I feel you are underestimating the context and the sheer extent of the damage all the PLP skullduggery did. Yes, Corbyn carried baggage into this election, and that's what's gonna cost Labour, but it is my thesis that he's not the one to blame for most of those previous missteps. Furthermore, he's quickly proven himself to be able to rise out of adversity, in force. This is exactly what a leftist party in a country overran by Murdoch rags needs. I think the Labour backbenchers can see this too, and might be prepared to try working with him in the future. This in turn might lead to something much needed these days: an honest to god party drifting to the left. I've read their manifesto, and if this is what united Labour under Corbyn aims to achieve, it's well worth letting him continue after a lost snap election. And to add to those points, in 5 years there will be more of the young voting demographic, who seem to band around Corbyn. There will be fewer old people, and I don't think in 5 years the Tories will find anyone nearly as good at running a campaign as Cameron was - meaning, the next Tory campaign is likely to be another dumpster fire that a charismatic opposition leader can take advantage of. I just don't see anyone else in Labour being able to do anything 5 years henceforth.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:09 |
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Lord_Adonis posted:But were those military interventions into politics conceived of to protect Liberal Democracy from far-right sabotage, and implemented in a strictly time-limited context? One of them had their stated cause pretty drat close to that, actually, but it doesn't matter. The reasons never matter. Giving over power to your military changes your country in many many unexpected ways, all of them really bad. I would write a long post about exactly how, seeing as how in Argentina you get it the whole history of the dictatorships and their atrocities hammered into you (a very popular motto with regards to them is "never again"), but honestly many better men than me have written much better books about it. There's literally hundreds of books about it, many dozen in english, so look it up, hell, even the wikipedia article should give you a good idea of why military dictatorships are an incredibly dumb idea.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:10 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I think if we wanted a military dictatorship, we'd probably need a fully staffed and funded military Somehow lots of them got something like that during it though.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:12 |
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Upon reflection of my endorsement of a military intervention in UK politics, I must ask you all to disregard my comments regarding this issue, and to ask for forgiveness for my hysterical attitude. I was motivated by desperation and anger, of the sort that motivated me to verbally abuse one of my local UKIP councillors on the day after the referendum. It is borne of a stupid and crass mentality that I should labour to overcome. I have crossed a line and will endeavour to find a better method of communicating my misgivings about Brexit, and desire to remain an EU citizen.
Lord_Adonis fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:13 |
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Lord_Adonis posted:Upon reflection of my endorsement of a military intervention in UK politics, I must ask you all to disregard my comments regarding this issue, and to ask for forgiveness for my hysterical attitude. I was motivated by desperation and anger, of the sort that motivated me to verbally abuse one of my local UKIP councillors on the day after the referendum. It is borne of a stupid and crass mentality that I should labour to overcome. I will endeavour to find a better method of communicating my misgivings about Brexit, and desire to remain an EU citizen. It's cool, my man. And as for the EU thing I believe Germany has discussed offering fast-track dual citizenship in the event of a hard brexit.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:15 |
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Guavanaut posted:Many of the countries that had them never had that before it happened. it was more a comment on the general shoddy state of our military rather than an actual assessment of their capability of carrying out an sort of coup. Seriously, a lot of the barracks, RAF and Navy facilities I visit are on the verge of falling down
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:16 |
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Is this Indian guy for real?
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:17 |
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OwlFancier posted:Already watching it. It is reinforcing my belief that Norway is an ideal society. Have you ever let yourself descend into the weird world of Ylvis ? Most people only know their fox song, but they have a lot of really funny poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn-oemgzlEU
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:17 |
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That was awkward. and surreal, Suzanne Evans telling an angry asian man that immigration has brought the Uk benefits.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:18 |
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Looke posted:Is this Indian guy for real? Oi he might not be Indian specifically. :| He was racist as gently caress tho. Or failing at an ironic rant.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:18 |
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Yeah sometimes you have recent immigrants being racist against immigrants. People are weird and dumb.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:20 |
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I thought he said "Indians like me" I could be mistaken though! Apologies to my Indian homies out there x
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:22 |
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In my experience it's usually based on how long they've been here. Older first generation and second generation immigrants (usually south Asian and Caribbean) can sometimes get annoyed with recent immigrants (usually Eastern European) because they feel it's a lot easier to immigrate now (which it is, but that's not the fault of the recent immigrants).
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:24 |
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Looke posted:I thought he said "Indians like me" I could be mistaken though! I begrudgingly accept. X
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:24 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:27 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:There's still a week to go, the rate the polls are going and the momentum on Labour's side... Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jun 1, 2017 |
# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:28 |
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I want this guy in the blue shirt at my next birthday party.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:31 |
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https://twitter.com/natalie_bloomer/status/870402777901654017 (see replies also) What is going on?
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:33 |
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Indian dude borrowed his neighbor's glasses to get back on TV
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:33 |
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Show of solidarity, no Tory candidates will be participating in future debates
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:34 |
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Tough crowd on QT tonight. People actually booing the idea of more spending on public services.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:36 |
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Are we going to be having end of last series of Game of Thrones "everyone gathered in the big church" moment. Because if we are I would like to be prewarned. Oh and I prefer the folkier stuff from Norway Moddi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX5FpPP4TSA
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:36 |
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jabby posted:Tough crowd on QT tonight. People actually booing the idea of more spending on public services. Gardiner seemed to get in a muddle on Brexit.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:38 |
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how is not attending anything supposed to make them look good are they just all in their homes thinking about brexit are they convening a secret meeting of the grand tory secret society where they have weird sex with masks on and summon the spirit of margaret thatcher to take over their bodies and unleash a hellish new hivemind order that assimilates all mankind
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:38 |
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Josef bugman posted:Are we going to be having end of last series of Game of Thrones "everyone gathered in the big church" moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6Hndsyfn6M
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:38 |
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Theresa May doesn't follow anyone on twitter, fyi
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:38 |
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Pissflaps posted:Gardiner seemed to get in a muddle on Brexit. Putting Gardiner and Davis together seems to be a recipe for a very dry debate with both of them trying to make very specific points. It doesn't help that actually their positions aren't that different. EDIT: gently caress off Nick, going after the Labour party by agreeing 100% with the Tories that we must never tax the rich.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:40 |
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If I'm going to dare to hope then the British do have a soft spot for plucky underdogs who surge back at the 11th hour against incredible odds. At least when it comes to sport they do. So maybe that will give Labour the push they need over the finish line. And I mean May's campaign has really been making an incredible pig's ear of things, which just depresses me because she's still the most likely to win. Still, Labour winning with a razor thin majority would be an utterly poo poo place to be for the country. Yes we're likely to see a lot more sense in the Brexit negotiations on account of Brexit's unique power to burn the with something vaguely approaching the same intensity as it will burn the working man, but the government's working majority is going to be held to ransom on matters of domestic policy by red tory cunts every step of the way, which is going to absolutely shatter all the youthful energy behind the movement that we're currently building up. We'd end up with a British Obama administration.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:43 |
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Jesus Clegg. "Most politicians are not amoral beings". Just join the Tory party already.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:46 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 17:32 |
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His name is Nick.
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# ? Jun 1, 2017 23:46 |