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Uncle Jam posted:Boy howdy I love that all of the garbage tweets and youtube comments and trackforum posts I specifically avoid get reposted here like its some sort of link aggregator of garbage. you're a miserable gently caress aren't you?
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FuzzySkinner posted:you're a miserable gently caress aren't you? Am I more, or less miserable than Jenna Fryer's twitter account?
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Jun 2, 2017 02:56
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I'm going to watch the other oval races. The Indy 500 came in my mouth and it felt good. Will I be disappointed with the other oval races?
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Jun 2, 2017 02:57
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It's like here's the thing. This is about as good as you're going to get in the auto racing community. Save for my buds on twitter? There's not much better. If Uncle Jam is expecting some sort of great paradise of great posting? It ain't happening. Related note? Don't you frequent worst thread? I mean if that's not pot calling the kettle black....
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Wirth1000 posted:I'm going to watch the other oval races. The Indy 500 came in my mouth and it felt good. Will I be disappointed with the other oval races? you will see overtaking at all of them Texas is a fun race
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Jun 2, 2017 03:02
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Wirth1000 posted:I'm going to watch the other oval races. The Indy 500 came in my mouth and it felt good. Will I be disappointed with the other oval races? Texas is good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv8KNya9aeA Iowa is good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4J4DiXZUVk Not sure about Gateway...havn't raced there since 2003, so it's a big question mark. Pocono is a bit of a yawner, but the attrition can make it interesting. Other events? I'd advise skipping Belle Isle unless you're hardcore into it. Road America is interesting, legendary  road course. Toronto can provide some "lol" worthy crashes. The Glen is also great.. Mid Ohio is fun to attend, but on tv? Yawn.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:03
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haha beat you to Texas with my ninja edit
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Jun 2, 2017 03:04
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The late CART era short oval races kinda stunk. Hopefully Gateway isn't Phoenix mark II.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:05
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Wirth1000 posted:I'm going to watch the other oval races. The Indy 500 came in my mouth and it felt good. Will I be disappointed with the other oval races?
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Jun 2, 2017 03:07
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VikingSkull posted:haha beat you to Texas with my ninja edit hahhaha. A lot of crazy poo poo happened during the IRL days when they were at venues that were kinda yawners for Cup (Texas, Las Vegas, Chicagoland, Kentucky, New Atlanta, Fontana, and Michigan). You don't get it that much any more, but Texas is one of the cookie cutter clones so you get a taste of it. CART used to have similar sort of races at Michigan, Fontana during the "Hanford device" days which are worth looking up.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:08
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FuzzySkinner posted:It's like here's the thing. I dunno about the worst thread, you post a ton more there than I do. It'd be cool though to have posting to be better than slightly-less-poo poo-than-the-poo poo and actually have content and not just a bunch of cp twitter.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:11
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Road America is also the 3rd longest course in the world seeing regular use (Sarthe and Spa are longer) and the longest in the US. It's a course with elevation changes, sharp corners, and flat out areas.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:12
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Uncle Jam posted:I dunno about the worst thread, you post a ton more there than I do. Well give me an example of what you want then? If you're being sincere I'll try my best to find more interesting material.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:14
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Uncle Jam posted:I dunno about the worst thread, you post a ton more there than I do. fyi auto racing thread because immeasurable better if you ignore Fuzzy, Viking and Peanut(if you read the NASCAR thread)
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Jun 2, 2017 03:36
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FuzzySkinner posted:Well give me an example of what you want then? Dude I'm not gonna list out some 12 step process for improved posting. But just reposting some randoms' opinion where the only thing anyone can do about it is get angry and stamp feet is pointless and checking twitter it is a veritable firehose of garbage (Maybe I'm old but I don't understand how people who actual put worthwhile stuff there deal with that). Every second of the day there will be something showing up there that will make you angry and you can spend the rest of your life mounting this empty anger against an infinite sea of never-ending dumb tweets but why would you want to do that? Just actual facts, histories, any discussion of the future based in reality about IndyCar is a billion times better.
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7:20am PDT streaming for DGP practice 1. I guess I can get up early on a work day.
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Uncle Jam posted:Dude I'm not gonna list out some 12 step process for improved posting. But just reposting some randoms' opinion where the only thing anyone can do about it is get angry and stamp feet is pointless and checking twitter it is a veritable firehose of garbage (Maybe I'm old but I don't understand how people who actual put worthwhile stuff there deal with that). Every second of the day there will be something showing up there that will make you angry and you can spend the rest of your life mounting this empty anger against an infinite sea of never-ending dumb tweets but why would you want to do that? Just actual facts, histories, any discussion of the future based in reality about IndyCar is a billion times better. Well do you want to talk about why it would be cool if they brought back the Michigan/US 500 and if such an event would ever be viable in the near future? Kinda curious if they could ever get that to work again.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:51
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Uncle Jam posted:Dude I'm not gonna list out some 12 step process for improved posting. But just reposting some randoms' opinion where the only thing anyone can do about it is get angry and stamp feet is pointless and checking twitter it is a veritable firehose of garbage (Maybe I'm old but I don't understand how people who actual put worthwhile stuff there deal with that). Every second of the day there will be something showing up there that will make you angry and you can spend the rest of your life mounting this empty anger against an infinite sea of never-ending dumb tweets but why would you want to do that? Just actual facts, histories, any discussion of the future based in reality about IndyCar is a billion times better. No one seemed really mad before right now
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Jun 2, 2017 03:52
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IIRC the problem with Michigan is track leadership doesn't think they can make a profit off the series making a return. Maybe if they did a weekend concert/EDM combo?
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Jun 2, 2017 03:54
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whoa geez guys calm down
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Bentai posted:IIRC the problem with Michigan is track leadership doesn't think they can make a profit off the series making a return. Maybe if they did a weekend concert/EDM combo? People seemed pleased with the snake pit thing at indy I heard?
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Jun 2, 2017 03:56
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Yeah, that's why I wonder if MIS couldn't do the same. They'd also have to schedule it so it doesn't interfere with the two nascar races, and far enough away from Detroit that there's little to no risk of impinging on ticket sales. This can be fixed by starting the series earlier in the year, or going later, or both, but we know that's not the plan right now.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:58
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Norns posted:People seemed pleased with the snake pit thing at indy I heard? The thing about the Snake Pit is it was an unofficial thing that got made official, which was a good thing because it could get out of hand prior.
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Bentai posted:IIRC the problem with Michigan is track leadership doesn't think they can make a profit off the series making a return. Maybe if they did a weekend concert/EDM combo? I think that could work. I do think it could be a successful race weekend if done right. I think the key would be to get fuller racing fields for Pocono, MIS along with the ability to break some speed records like the old day. (Make Saturday worth attending). If only ASA and IROC still existed too.... VikingSkull posted:whoa geez guys calm down Viking man...you and I argue sometimes. But you're a cool dude, and I love your racing pics
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Jun 2, 2017 03:59
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How far do the tracks have to be in order to not impinge on ticket sales then?
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That one I'm really not sure about. I just remember Fontana wanted to be as far from Long Beach as possible for ticket sale reasons, and of course Eddie Gossage refuses to support Indycar if they make moves to get a COTA race, because "ticket sales." I suppose I'm more assuming at this point that this would be an issue with DGP/MIS.
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I never understood that logic. i'd go to practice at Mid Ohio, Cleveland during the CART days and rarely saw a negative effect on one another. e: Especially with COTA and TMS catering towards two different groups of fans. Oval fans are different than Road Course/IMSA/GP fans. There's some overlap, but you're not gonna get the guy who buys tix for the two cup races there to go "gently caress it.", and not attend the ICS race due to COTA.
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They should look into a race at Gingerman, given it's entirely on the opposite side of the state. Maybe Brainerd.
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FuzzySkinner posted:racing pics 
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I also don't get how COTA would negatively effect TMS and vice versa. We're talking two entirely different disciplines of racing here. It would also allow a 1-1 comparison to F1, F2, and LMP1 cars at least in terms of lap speed, which would be interesting to see.
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I don't think anyone really knows how COTA would affect TMS except Eddie. But in the past he's thrown fits about the F1 race being on the same weekend as nascar, and apparently has a five year agreement with the series, preventing them from holding any other races in Texas other than at TMS. And there was this little quote from 2014: quote:If IndyCar wants to run in Austin, (my response is) 'God Bless You, it's been a nice 18 years, have fun. We don't need another (race) in the market to cause people to make choices and decisions.'
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I met Uncle Bobby this weekend! Honestly the kindest men out of all the drivers I met (sans Chuck Hulse and Mad Max Papis). He couldn't sign as he was too tired, but he was so amazingly kind explaining why. I actually was more happy I even got to talk to him than him signing a piece of paper. iospace posted:I also don't get how COTA would negatively effect TMS and vice versa. We're talking two entirely different disciplines of racing here. If I lived in Texas? I'd attend both and have a blast.
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you should have asked him about Mario Andretti
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VikingSkull posted:you should have asked him about Mario Andretti Didn't get the chance. Just asked him if we could have him in the booth to argue with Sam Posey one more time.  .
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The only problem with TMS and COTA is that I hate driving on 35 for 4 hours. I have tickets to TMS for indycar and multiple tickets at COTA (I went to see IMSA, then WEC, then F1).
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Bentai posted:I don't think anyone really knows how COTA would affect TMS except Eddie. But in the past he's thrown fits about the F1 race being on the same weekend as nascar, and apparently has a five year agreement with the series, preventing them from holding any other races in Texas other than at TMS. As much as I think Gossage is a total wanker, he has put up with a lot of crap for the IRL over a long period of time. Fontana was just fine as a season ender, they just hosed it up by giving it no actual date equity. It should be the finale and should be as late in the year as possible.
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No doubt. For the first 7-ish years of the IRL's existence they ran TMS twice a year. Maybe if the series brought in bigger crowds or sponsor money, Eddie might be amicable to "allowing" the series to look into COTA, but he seems to be the kind of guy that would throw a fit at the idea of losing any potential race fan to any other series or track in the state.
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IOwnCalculus posted:It should be the finale and should be as late in the year as possible. One thing I 100% agree with Robin Miller on is that the finale should absolutely be on an oval.
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You also have to remember he was one of the people who benefited from the Ferko lawsuit.
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IOwnCalculus posted:As much as I think Gossage is a total wanker, he has put up with a lot of crap for the IRL over a long period of time. 1997- September 28 1998- November 1 1999- October 31 2000- October 30 2001- November 4 2002- November 3 2003- (IRL) September 21 2003- November 9 (cancelled) 2004- October 3 2005- October 16 Halloween week seems to be the best weekend in spite of Mark Miles fear of the NFL.
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