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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Guavanaut posted:The idea is that Adonis' pro-remain military coup goes down about as well as you'd expect in England, there's a popular uprising, a handful of small skirmishes, and Supreme Comrade Skinner takes over the collapsed government and brings about socialism in one country.
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multijoe posted:If only she's elaborated on what that could be ...
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Jun 2, 2017 10:31
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Here we go! https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870573291630710785
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:https://twitter.com/rosschawkins/status/870572201304633345 Well that's nice.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:31
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Guavanaut posted:What's the worst that could happen. quote:Conventional traps catch the grey squirrel alive and rely on someone then either shooting or hitting it over the head. Opponents describe this as “bludgeoning” them to death, but the Wildlife Trusts prefers to call it “cranial despatch”. The approved, legal method is one firm “tap” on the head with a stick.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:32
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Supposedly May is due at our local DWP in just under an hour. Sadly I won't be able to attend as I'm at work and council employees heckling the PM on camera is considered 'bad optics' so they won't give me an hour off.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:32
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quote:“When I look at a grey, I see a rodent. When I look at a red, I don’t, even though they are the same thing. It’s the cuteness factor. The tuft on the ears and the native/non-native gets me every time – they should be here and the greys shouldn’t. I’ve got no problem with greys in North America. I certainly wouldn’t support culling them in their country. But here we can’t have both living side-by-side. We’ve got to make a choice and undo what the Victorians did.”
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Jun 2, 2017 10:34
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Oberleutnant posted:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/02/kill-them-the-volunteer-army-plotting-to-wipe-out-britains-grey-squirrels Sounds good to me.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:34
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Gort posted:One thing that really bugs me is humanity's fetishisation of animals that are really crap at living in the world we've made, and our all-out hatred of the ones that are really good at it. People hate raccoons, rats and grey squirrels, but they idolise pandas and red squirrels. The canonical example is Katie Hopkins' favorite the cockroach which doesn't do anything of harm to humans except not respect our arbitrary property lines, and is only usually diseased when it catches them from our filthy hovels. Cerv posted:military coup in the UK and the possibility of socialism in one country are both very unlikely, but if I were a betting man I'd say the former wins
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Jun 2, 2017 10:38
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Gort posted:One thing that really bugs me is humanity's fetishisation of animals that are really crap at living in the world we've made, and our all-out hatred of the ones that are really good at it. People hate raccoons, rats and grey squirrels, but they idolise pandas and red squirrels. There is no "we preserve biodiversity" while simultaneously protecting invasive species that, by definition, are decreasing biodiversity. They are very close behind habitat fragmentation and loss in severity. Even more crucially, saving fragmented habitats matters less if they are invaded, leaving even less room for, you know, biodiversity. Protecting invasive species is directly supporting a loss of biodiversity. Slaughtering grey squirrels and other harmful invasive species is good, cool and one of the few things people can reasonably do to slow down the biodiversity loss. This is ecological consensus.
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tithin posted:How badly hosed do we think the electoracte is going to be in a weeks time? Two trotters. dex_sda posted:And to add to those points, in 5 years there will be more of the young voting demographic, who seem to band around Corbyn. There will be fewer old people, Although in 5 years time, there will be 5 more years worth of old people newly arrived into the category and no particular reason to think the correlation between age and Conservative voting will have changed. Edit: vv Those red squirrels are so cute 
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Jun 2, 2017 10:40
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I don't have any particular opinion on culling animals for environmental reasons. What I very much do have opinions on is the people interviewed in that article, who are a bunch of dorks who hunt squirrels weith thermal imaging equipped air rifles and then make waistcoats out of the pelts, and sit around in conference rooms pretending to be elite anti squirrel special forces planning a genocidal campaign against dirty foreigns.
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Oberleutnant posted:oooh my gaaaaawd Squexit, keep Britane Red.
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Oberleutnant posted:I don't have any particular opinion on culling animals for environmental reasons. What I very much do have opinions on is the people interviewed in that article, who are a bunch of dorks who hunt squirrels weith thermal imaging equipped air rifles and then make waistcoats out of the pelts, and sit around in conference rooms pretending to be elite anti squirrel special forces planning a genocidal campaign against dirty foreigns.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:46
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One of the most famous proposals by the House of Lords was to legalise the hunting of cats on horseback in urban areas. Identical to fox hunts but wearing yellow jackets. Then they revealed it was all a joke.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:52
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I think it's a reasonable point. People try to push the idea that the fox hunting ban was about punishing posh people, but the truth is we'd never allow the working class to do the same thing and indeed the bloodsports they used to participate in were banned long ago.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:56
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think it's a reasonable point. People try to push the idea that the fox hunting ban was about punishing posh people, but the truth is we'd never allow the working class to do the same thing and indeed the bloodsports they used to participate in were banned long ago. My favourite description of this was somebody itt i think: Imagine a group of working class lads settimg a pack of pitbulls on a fox. Now imagine they're poshos on horses.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:58
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quote:the native/non-native gets me every time  Something makes me think it's not really all about squirrels
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WeAreTheRomans posted:
I bet any given grey squirrel has more UK-resident generations behind it than one of these fuckers.
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Jun 2, 2017 11:10
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Bloody greys, comin' over here, taking our nuts and dropping anchor pups
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Jun 2, 2017 11:11
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in my last year at uni I used to walk along a road from my accommodation to the campus and it was between two sets of wooded area, leading to it basically being a trail of flat and/or bloody squirrel corpses from where other students had driven down the same road and taken one or several of the poor bastards out of their activities on earth I'm still not sure why the bodies disappeared - road janitor? hungry cats?
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Jun 2, 2017 11:11
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Oberleutnant posted:I don't have any particular opinion on culling animals for environmental reasons. What I very much do have opinions on is the people interviewed in that article, who are a bunch of dorks who hunt squirrels weith thermal imaging equipped air rifles and then make waistcoats out of the pelts, and sit around in conference rooms pretending to be elite anti squirrel special forces planning a genocidal campaign against dirty foreigns. Please, for the love of god, do not conflate invasive species removal with racism and xenophoby, even in jest. First, it implicitly grants introduced animal populations rights and thought processes similar to human individuals. Second, it serves to strengthen and bolster the outdated and debunked social darwinism aspect still prevalent in far-right circles. And as horrible as it may sound, giving people some prize for their participation - be it as little as bragging rights or a piece of paper - has been shown to really help in conservation issues. And yes, this includes things such as brushtail possum hats and cane toad wallets. Most of the successful removal campaigns of invasive species are characterized by their ruthlessness.
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Tesseraction posted:I'm still not sure why the bodies disappeared - road janitor? hungry cats? Probably a street sweeper or council team, yeah.
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Jun 2, 2017 11:13
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Oberleutnant posted:I'm living in a dream world That's the approved humane method for killing fish too. The big stick you use is called a priest.
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Jun 2, 2017 11:13
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mfcrocker posted:Probably a street sweeper or council team, yeah. Rats, crows, magpies, hedgehogs, badgers and foxes are also pretty effective janitors. Small carcasses disappear fast.
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Jun 2, 2017 11:15
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Tbf invasive species are totally a thing with regards ecosystems and grey squirrels will almost certainly push reds into extinction sooner or later. I guess I can see why people would want to prevent that. I mean I kind of get people obsessing over pandas and whatever even though it seems a waste of time to me. I agree though in this case I'm sure red squirrels can easily become symbolic of good old blighty and there's obviously going to be some pretty sketchy rhetoric around that.Oberleutnant posted:My favourite description of this was somebody itt i think: You have officially spoiled the next Halloween party theme for ~70% of the foxhunting groups in the UK ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Jun 2, 2017 11:16
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Tim Farron continuing to dodge saying that gay sex isn't a sin, as if the only time he did say that was a big loving lie to ease the pressure on him
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El Perkele posted:Please, for the love of god, do not conflate invasive species removal with racism and xenophoby, even in jest. big scary monsters posted:That's the approved humane method for killing fish too. The big stick you use is called a priest. I'm surprised that the captive bolt device that bangs pigs in the head didn't get a renaming a couple years back.
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TinTower, have a word with your political party, this poo poo is embarrassing Chemicals in the water supply are feminising us, says candidate for dead political party.
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Jun 2, 2017 11:17
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Guavanaut posted:How did the enlisted vote go in the referendum? I don't have the figures, but that would seem the best indicator of whether a pro-remain coup would hold ground or instantly fall into infighting or desertion. Also haven't seen any figures on this but the overwhelming majority I've spoken with were pro Brexit and to a lesser extent will vote Conservative.
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Gort posted:One thing that really bugs me is humanity's fetishisation of animals that are really crap at living in the world we've made, and our all-out hatred of the ones that are really good at it. People hate raccoons, rats and grey squirrels, but they idolise pandas and red squirrels. It's generally animals that humans introduced and they hosed every thing up that are the worst. Australia seems to have loads of examples of this like rabbits and toads that reach these apocalyptic plague levels. The problem with grey squirrels is that they are just big rats with fluffy tails and they have no predators. We should re introduce pine martens like they have in scotland and ireland (but they also gently caress poo poo up as well). I don't really have a problem with people hunting grey squirrels. They are countless times more of a pest than foxes will ever be.
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Jun 2, 2017 11:22
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forkboy84 posted:TinTower, have a word with your political party, this poo poo is embarrassing Who the gently caress is voting for these tosspots? 
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ThomasPaine posted:Tbf invasive species are totally a thing with regards ecosystems and grey squirrels will almost certainly push reds into extinction sooner or later. I guess I can see why people would want to prevent that. I mean I kind of get people obsessing over pandas and whatever even though it seems a waste of time to me. I agree though in this case I'm sure red squirrels can easily become symbolic of good old blighty and there's obviously going to be some pretty sketchy rhetoric around that. Mind you, pandas being doomed is kind of our fault, given that (a) we're encroaching on their territory, where they've managed to sustain a pretty stable population for a pretty long time, and (b) life in captivity is entirely antithetical to their needs, especially where breeding is concerned - their heat season is so short because all the pandas in an area will converge in one place for a giant panda orgy, in the hopes that a few viable pairings will emerge from it all, and one-on-one coupling just doesn't work for them. It's not that pandas are doomed by their biology, it's that we have neither the tools to fix what we break nor the inclination to develop them.
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mfcrocker posted:Tim Farron continuing to dodge saying that gay sex isn't a sin, as if the only time he did say that was a big loving lie to ease the pressure on him My man did you see him poo poo himself on Andrew Neil last night? I was laffin my butt off the whole time.
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Darth Walrus posted:(b) life in captivity is entirely antithetical to their needs, especially where breeding is concerned - their heat season is so short because all the pandas in an area will converge in one place for a giant panda orgy, in the hopes that a few viable pairings will emerge from it all, and one-on-one coupling just doesn't work for them. we are loving monsters for stopping this
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Tesseraction posted:My man did you see him poo poo himself on Andrew Neil last night? I was laffin my butt off the whole time. It was some beautiful poo poo. Gives a good performance on the Beeb debate and within 2 days has been trampled back into the dirt
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Guavanaut posted:What was the origin for that term?
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Darth Walrus posted:Mind you, pandas being doomed is kind of our fault, given that (a) we're encroaching on their territory, where they've managed to sustain a pretty stable population for a pretty long time, and (b) life in captivity is entirely antithetical to their needs, especially where breeding is concerned - their heat season is so short because all the pandas in an area will converge in one place for a giant panda orgy, in the hopes that a few viable pairings will emerge from it all, and one-on-one coupling just doesn't work for them. I just don't much care about preserving species for their own sake (unless they're vital to an ecosystem). Always felt that the resources would be better spent ensuring more sustainable future development. Learning from our mistakes is important but I see no point in holding two or three massively endangered creatures in captivity obsessing over getting them to breed.
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Guavanaut posted:If we're strictly looking at environmental effects humans are a harmful invasive species though, perhaps the top one. Send us all back to that one part of Africa. Humans are not invasive though, humans moved around earth by their own means and were not transported by some other entity or that's what they want you to think. Generally accepted definitions of invasive species include "facilitated movement or transportation to a novel area" [by definition: humans] as one of the least contentious part. While humans certainly spread invasive species and cause ecological catastrophes, we are no less or more invasive on planet Earth than lions are in Africa. If Ziltoid decided to introduce prehistoric humans to planet Barsoom, where they flourished and caused mass extinctions, then yeah well sure. In there.
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