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The best possible Brexit outcome is a massive, country-ruining fuckup that scares the rest of Europe away from hard-right Euroskepticism forever. Boris 2018.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:The best possible Brexit outcome is a massive, country-ruining fuckup that scares the rest of Europe away from hard-right Euroskepticism forever. Boris 2018.
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Jun 2, 2017 15:39
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if the last couple of pages are anything to go by even if corbyn wins overwhelmingly the party will fulfil its destiny by being super bad at the economy in one way or another
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Jun 2, 2017 15:40
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The Economy is something Labour historically does pretty well at despite runs on the pound from the Tories' vindictive city mates tbh.
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Jun 2, 2017 15:41
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jBrereton posted:The Economy is something Labour historically does pretty well at despite runs on the pound from the Tories' vindictive city mates tbh. it is however a funny meme of the british politic
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Jun 2, 2017 15:42
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babypolis posted:well he certainly will never learn the concept from you Holy poo poo OUCH
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Jun 2, 2017 15:43
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Peel posted:tbh even a poor tory showing that returns a majority but topples the leader could count as a happy outcome, brexit is still to come and better someone competent than theresa 'what is negotiating' may If Theresa May gets toppled then she'll be replaced by someone like Boris Johnson. I'm not sure BoJo is more competent than May unless competency is measured by causing offence.
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Jun 2, 2017 15:52
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Kwasi Kwarteng's power will be unlocked by the end of Corbyn and he will become PM.
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Jun 2, 2017 15:59
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Jun 2, 2017 16:28
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Jun 2, 2017 16:30
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...I genuinely don't understand that. Like, isn't Corbyn the most effective way of driving the country in a socialist direction that the left has had since about the 70s?
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Jun 2, 2017 16:31
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how soon we forget Michael Foot
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Jun 2, 2017 16:32
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CottonWolf posted:...I genuinely don't understand that. Like, isn't Corbyn the most effective way of driving the country in a socialist direction that the left has had since about the 70s? The SPGB don't believe in moving the country in a socialist direction, they believe socialism has to be established globally.
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Jun 2, 2017 16:41
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CottonWolf posted:...I genuinely don't understand that. Like, isn't Corbyn the most effective way of driving the country in a socialist direction that the left has had since about the 70s? the socialist party of great britain are actual loons that's why
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Jun 2, 2017 16:41
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Bryter posted:The SPGB don't believe in moving the country in a socialist direction, they believe socialism has to be established globally. Ah. Fair enough. Completely delusional, but fair enough. (At least, if they think that's a feasible aim, rather than an ideal.)
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Jun 2, 2017 16:45
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the burns in this thread are so good, furthering my belief brits are the best at insults
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Jun 2, 2017 16:58
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:the socialist party of great britain are actual loons that's why whenever their twitter account makes a post there are usually repliers calling them cops
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Jun 2, 2017 17:25
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corbyn is a social democrat and not even all that left from a perspective that includes actual communist parties, it's unsurprising if some revolutionary socialists don't like him. they don't really go for 'move the country in X direction by winning elections' as a strategy 'establishment puppet' is a bit of a lol though
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Corek posted:whenever their twitter account makes a post there are usually repliers calling them cops they are insane enough that it's pretty plausible they are a long term false flag plant tbh
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Jun 2, 2017 17:31
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if redkahina has taught me anything it's that anyone right of pol pot is a cop luckily she hasn't
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Jun 2, 2017 17:33
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Peel posted:if redkahina has taught me anything it's that anyone right of pol pot is a cop /pol/ pot you say huh
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Jun 2, 2017 17:34
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maybe redkahina was the real psyop all along
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Jun 2, 2017 17:38
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The best thing about the SPGB is that that getting socialists elected is actually a major part of their espoused strategy:quote:Socialism can not be forced upon people. As its establishment depends upon majority understanding and a global democratic effort to bring it to fruition, we envisage people the world over using their votes to elect socialist candidates to political office. Once enough Socialists had been elected to office this would be a clear signal that a majority wanted socialism. But they reject reform entirely. So they want socialist politicians to be elected, then do nothing and hope that for some reason people will keep voting for more until one day enough have been elected to establish global socialism. e: oh and also they have brilliantly decided that to build a global mass movement, it's best to vet potential members by having them take an exam. Bryter has issued a correction as of 18:03 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Jun 2, 2017 17:45
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lol let's combine electoralism and revolutionism, to gain the strengths of neither and the weaknesses of both
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Jun 2, 2017 17:53
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I kinda have a similar position with nuclear weapons. I'm for them, but don't believe in nuclear deterrence, and support immediately using them on ourselves.
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Jun 2, 2017 18:08
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Jun 2, 2017 18:11
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the communists of britain discover unskewing
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Jun 2, 2017 18:20
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I love the way the polling industry is just collectively shrugging. They're all getting more or less the same raw data coming in and then their house corrections are converting that into a 15 point spread of estimates.
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Jun 2, 2017 18:58
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Fallen Hamprince posted:the communists of britain discover unskewing Other way round surely? I mean a likely voter screen isn't really unskewing but posting raw data is even less so
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Jun 2, 2017 19:13
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not that anyone
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Jun 2, 2017 19:21
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the lib dem campaign has been bad and not really shown them as a credible opposition to the torys though, just not the absolute clownshow that the tory campaign has become
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Jun 2, 2017 19:28
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yeah it was a wonder from back when it looked like labour might infight their way to oblivion, before corbyn took off the training weights
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Jun 2, 2017 19:29
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Ashcroft who earlier had Tories getting about a 150 seat majority to 70ish at best which is the most negative pollernso far
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Jun 2, 2017 19:35
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Jun 2, 2017 20:42
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Im dumb and dont understand
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Jun 2, 2017 20:47
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I'm watching her live and she's so poo poo lol
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Jun 2, 2017 20:48
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Uncle Wemus posted:Im dumb and dont understand Model vs raw data I assume?
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Jun 2, 2017 20:49
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Uncle Wemus posted:Im dumb and dont understand
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Jun 2, 2017 20:49
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shes bombing and its not even a hard questioning
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Jose posted:I'm watching her live and she's so poo poo lol
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