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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

mansplaining a thing

mansplaining is definitely a thing. i am a man and i do it all the time (though less often than i used to. i think)

ask your girlfriend/wife/sister/female friend whether you do it. expect them to say 'god yes' and then probably 'but everyone else does it too so don't worry!!!!'

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coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

more generally: yes, there exist people in the ~social justice sphere~ who persecute people who voice opinions they don't like. the reason that this thread is laughing at you is because that's exactly what happens to women and minorities whenever they voice their own opinion, but on a much more damaging scale. you've just never noticed it because your (my) group weren't subject to anything like it until very, very recently.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
While this is true, unless something radical happens, the coming generations will be used to the idea of zero privacy.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

That time Propagandhi wrote a song mocking Fat Mike's weak piss liberalism was fun. And also took shots at Lars Frederiksen being really silly.

Incidentally, Propagandhi are a much better band than NOFX too.

:agreed:

Miftan posted:

What song is that, by the way?
Propagandhi are great, and so are nofx. It's important to remember that fat Mike was an absolute shithead until around.. 2008? Stickin' in my eye is the first song I ever liked. :allears:

Rock For Sustainable Capitalism, probably.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
e: beaten but I brought video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qlejEUIza0

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Irony Be My Shield posted:

It's also nowhere near as big an election issue as it is in the states. There's been very little of it in the campaign, other than Farron's bizarre homophobia being brought forward a few times.

The big reason for this is that even the Conservatives aren't really socially conservative, there's not really any national appetite for openly anti-gay/abortion/trans etc. stuff like there is amongst the Republican base, so this sort of stuff just doesn't get brought up as much.

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
I have seen american imports of ferverently anti abortion loonies trying to gain a foothold tho.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
Are we ignoring Northern Ireland on this?

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


staberind posted:

I have seen american imports of ferverently anti abortion loonies trying to gain a foothold tho.

Yeah it's called ireland

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

coffeetable posted:

more generally: yes, there exist people in the ~social justice sphere~ who persecute people who voice opinions they don't like. the reason that this thread is laughing at you is because that's exactly what happens to women and minorities whenever they voice their own opinion, but on a much more damaging scale. you've just never noticed it because your (my) group weren't subject to anything like it until very, very recently.

Considering that I've had a BNP member threaten my family due to my sisters being mixed race and being autistic myself I'd say you are wrong

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

MikeCrotch posted:

He wants to say Cultural Marxism but the keksters are avoiding that term after people pointed out it was invented by the real life nazis
The funny thing about that is that Theodor Adorno of the Frankfurt School was basically of the opinion that all new stuff is trash and part of that is the capitalist 'anything for a buck' culture and that cultural capitalism was weakening the minds of the workers with entertainment television and movies and jazz music, and that the cure is a Marxist approach to culture.

He was saying the exact same thing as a lot of the alt-right and the Express and everyone's great uncle after a few pints that all new things are degenerate garbage trash, which makes it extra :ironicat: that him and his school have been lumped in with the Nazi inspired Cultural Bolshevism of supporting 'degenerate art' or whatever.

forkboy84 posted:

That time Propagandhi wrote a song mocking Fat Mike's weak piss liberalism was fun. And also took shots at Lars Frederiksen being really silly.

Incidentally, Propagandhi are a much better band than NOFX too.
Wasn't that mostly fallout from him being a total poo poo to them about Fat Wreck contracts or something?

And then him supporting going out and voting for the Democrats instead of smashing the state, which prompted a rebuke.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Igiari posted:

Jesus Christ can't you summarise this in five words or fewer, I don't have the patience to read all this

Hahaha perfect

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Cheers fellas. Are anti-flag still solid good guys?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
I'm sorry but it's not mansplaning to educate females in the precise function of the AMBAC system that helps balance mobile suits in the Gundam Universal Century setting. They just don't know about MS mechanics and if i'm being honest they act pretty flippantly about the whole thing.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Considering that I've had a BNP member threaten my family due to my sisters being mixed race and being autistic myself I'd say you are wrong

And you hang on the words of Carlgon of Sad, who uses autism as his go-to term for people who should be shunned and ignored?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:


And then him supporting going out and voting for the Democrats instead of smashing the state, which prompted a rebuke.

A lot of anarchists I talk to are of the opinion that you should still vote for the lesser evil.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

^^^I think that's the sensible approach most of the time, but just give them poo poo before and afterwards. Also during if possible.

Pochoclo posted:

Nah I'm joining the roving EU gangs, wearing all leather and raiding old pensioner tory scum, what's not to love

Join the Corboys instead, they ride the M4 all jammy and chrome.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

coffeetable posted:

mansplaining is definitely a thing. i am a man and i do it all the time (though less often than i used to. i think)

ask your girlfriend/wife/sister/female friend whether you do it. expect them to say 'god yes' and then probably 'but everyone else does it too so don't worry!!!!'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbUA49BMSbw

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."


Okay I laughed as soon as the video started and closed it after 1 second.

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
Tory erotica is very weird

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/theresa-mays-secret-weapon-she-exudes-erotic-appeal/

quote:

Theresa May, while she was home secretary, and even when she was a candidate in last summer’s leadership election, seemed an unlikely figure to call forth these essentially visceral, irrational responses.

Why unlikely? Because the emotions I am describing are not sensible and she is patently very sensible. The extravagant collection of shoes, and the controversial leather trousers — so often derided by political commentators and fashion editors — could be seen as attempts to dispel, or at best modify, her sensible image, though I think that judgment overlooks something which we are sometimes too delicate to spell out. This is that — in contrast to some of the other women who have dominated British public life in the last half century — she exudes erotic appeal. Sex appeal is not quite the same as the big mythological draw which was summoned up by, say, Golda Meir or Queen Victoria, but the two are in some way connected.

The Muse of History descends from Heaven and transforms public figures, like a fresco painter turning events into allegory. Had the Labour party had its wits about it, and elected Yvette Cooper as its leader, even she — brisk Balliol graduate of the cropped hair as she may be — could have been in the running for such a transformation. As it was, Destiny chose to touch with its finger the commonsense St Hugh’s geographer. Once this had happened, it became clear that Theresa had ‘It’. You might disagree with much of what she says, but you would be peculiarly insensitive not to have noticed that her voice, the skin, the eyes are all sending signals — whether it is done voluntarily or not does not matter. You can’t invent this quality — she simply has it. This is one of the reasons why the cartoonists who depict her as a beaky-nosed harridan completely fail to capture her essence.

Mrs May will have struck very many pundits, when she came forward as the successor to David Cameron, as a dull person. Her speeches often sound wooden and repetitive. As well as having sex appeal, however, she has been blessed with enemies which a politician could only dream of. As if it was not enough for her to be pitted in the hustings against the hopeless Corbyn, Jean-Claude Juncker lurched, belching over the threshold of Downing Street to transform this busy suburban woman into the Virgin Queen addressing the troops at Tilbury as the Spanish Armada enters the Channel.

Mrs May must have found it hard to believe her luck. Here was a Galtieri moment, in which she could step forward as the British warrior queen — without the painful necessity of committing a war crime by sinking a Belgrano full of Argentinian teenagers.

Theresa May, who is a politician to her fingertips, can add five marginal seats to her list of Labour scalps every time Juncker opens his mouth to insist on the rights of ‘the 27 member states’. His baiting of her is so clumsy that even those such as myself who voted Remain find ourselves responding strangely to her replies. Our ears hear her repeating the same slightly stilted speech she made on 50 previous news bulletins. Some inner force, however, has turned down the volume, and we find we are listening to Elizabeth at Tilbury.

‘Let tyrants fear, I have always so behaved myself that under God I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good will of my subjects.’ That famous speech in the summer of the Armada has found echoes in many of May’s speeches, from the first as Prime Minister, in which she promised to look after the interests of those who were just getting by, to the repeated election promises to be strong and stable. She is quite definitely one who would ‘think foul scorn that Parma or Spain or any Prince of Europe should dare to invade the borders of my Realm’.

Some historians think that Elizabeth knew, even as she made this speech, that the Armada had already been blown off course, and the danger of invasion was nil. This resembles Mrs May’s telling her supporters that they must regard the likelihood of a Corbyn victory as a serious threat.

Juncker will have plenty of fun in the next two years putting a spanner in the works, but for the time being Mummy sweeps onwards, borne in heavenly chariots, floating above painted clouds.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

namesake posted:

Join the Corboys instead, they ride the M4 all jammy and chrome.

Jammy Jezza, the Grime Minister

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

namesake posted:

Okay I laughed as soon as the video started and closed it after 1 second.

There's some funny videos out there but if you watch them it plays hell with your youtube recs.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

namesake posted:

^^^I think that's the sensible approach most of the time, but just give them poo poo before and afterwards. Also during if possible.

Well not during (unless you're in a ~nuanced~ conversation) if you want them to win, but definitely after.

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

Tesseraction posted:

And you hang on the words of Carlgon of Sad, who uses autism as his go-to term for people who should be shunned and ignored?

Sargon is borderline anyway

edit: his use of the term comes from 4chan the place where autistic people go to have slapfights about My Little Pony. The term takes on a different term in a place that makes SomethingAwful look like Narnia when it comes to arguing. Sargon really really wishes he could be seen as a cool guy by 4chan like Metokur or Sam Hyde is.

Intrinsic Field Marshal fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jun 2, 2017

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

namesake posted:

Okay I laughed as soon as the video started and closed it after 1 second.

Being fair it's a parody of RockingMrE, a Welsh MRA who thinks Karl Marx is trying to steal mens rights beyond the grave. He copies all the bizarre mannerisms that MrE has including the habit of really obviously reading from an off-screen script while pretending to talk naturally, randomly having his video cut to black and white, and explaining simple things he doesn't need to and failing to clarify his leaps of logic.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Miftan posted:

A lot of anarchists I talk to are of the opinion that you should still vote for the lesser evil.
Sure, but going on tv and doing the whole Rock the Vote thing in a campaign with uninspiring centrist democrats did open him up to a lot of Establishment Mike stuff, especially from bands that had disagreements with his label.

Also two terms of Bush and two terms of Obama is probably better than one term of Bush and one(?) of Kerry, although this is the timeline that got us Trump so :shrug:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Sargon is borderline anyway

So you hang on the words of someone who literally uses you as his example of a failed human being, because he might also be autistic?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
Sargons can't look up.

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/02/labour-accuses-tories-of-fake-news-over-video-of-corbyn-ira-comments

quote:

The number of people who have watched the film is similar to a televised party election broadcast audience, but because it is on Facebook it is not regulated by Ofcom, which can only consider complaints about “unjust or unfair treatment of individuals or organisations” in TV party broadcasts.

So you can say anything if it's not a TV advert :confused:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tesseraction posted:

Being fair it's a parody of RockingMrE, a Welsh MRA who thinks Karl Marx is trying to steal mens rights beyond the grave. He copies all the bizarre mannerisms that MrE has including the habit of really obviously reading from an off-screen script while pretending to talk naturally, randomly having his video cut to black and white, and explaining simple things he doesn't need to and failing to clarify his leaps of logic.

He hasn't quite go the soul gazing stare right.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Regarde Aduck posted:

Sargons can't look up.

Being fair with a neckbeard like that I'm assuming his head is stuck in that position by hair-anchor.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

He hasn't quite go the soul gazing stare right.

Harder to do when you have one.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/870673372908224512

Intrinsic Field Marshal
Sep 6, 2014

by SA Support Robot

Audible kek

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


:eyepop:

I knew his son was but hot drat.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Miftan posted:

What song is that, by the way?
Propagandhi are great, and so are nofx. It's important to remember that fat Mike was an absolute shithead until around.. 2008? Stickin' in my eye is the first song I ever liked. :allears:

Yeah, as mentioned previously it was Rock For Sustainable Capitalism. I do like a bit of NOFX. The Decline is amazing in that it's an 18 minute song by a pop punk band that never once wears out its welcome, which shouldn't be possible. But I do think their attempts at politics are really dumb (Fat Mike supports the Dems because he is a liberal rather than "they are the least worst option") & really love Propagandhi (the run of albums from Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes to their last album is pretty crazy in the consistency. And I do have some fondness for the first two records and songs like The Only Good Fascist Is A Very Dead Fascist are great fun, but they are a bit rough in spots). Super excited for the new album due to drop this summer.

Although I'm not the best one for punk, mostly I don't have any clue on contemporary stuff and just stick to listening to the classics like Crass, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Reagan Youth, all that jazz. Though the last Nails album was cool as hell if you want to count powerviolence as punk.


Christ, that's a thing.

I wonder what an interview between Campbell & Owen Jones now would be like.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 2, 2017

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tesseraction posted:

:eyepop:

I knew his son was but hot drat.

I was hoping we'd get a couple of articles like that, shame we won't get more of them.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

God I can't imagine trying to wear any leather in this weather.

True, I just realised I hadn't got round to weatherproofing my new leather jacket when I got caught in a thunderstorm on the way home tonight. Oh right, the heat? Not a problem compared to the waves of ~80 degree air coming off the engine of a motorbike, the rain was actually fairly welcome. Some may mock bikers but when climate change really hits and all of Britain is a Mad Max hellscape we're the only ones who aren't going to be dying of heatstroke.

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
Stiff Little Fingers and Bad Religion are both still very good.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

According to Ashcroft's polling analysis the Tories have gone from a likely 142-seat majority to a best case of 78-seats. Most likely less.

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