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Justin Godscock posted:Also that their fanbase was toxic and hostile to newcomers until 3 came along. NMA is still toxic and hostile lol, its just that Fallout 3 made them irrelevant to listen to.
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Like, a game is so boring that you're on the couch with a bong and it's midnight and you're like gently caress I might as well go to sleep, it seems like that's what Dragon Age wants me to do. Boring pos game.
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phasmid posted:Like, a game is so boring that you're on the couch with a bong and it's midnight and you're like gently caress I might as well go to sleep, it seems like that's what Dragon Age wants me to do. Boring pos game. I see the problem here. You played it on console like some kind of IDIOT SCRUB.
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Jun 2, 2017 19:49
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Chomp8645 posted:I see the problem here. You played it on console like some kind of IDIOT SCRUB. I was painting a picture. I actually played it on a laptop, windows 7. The way to play all games. (except the laptop part) I keep a ps3 and a wii because of certain games tho.
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Jun 2, 2017 19:52
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remember how dragon age's first game was a mechanically then-modern reimagining of Baldur's Gate style infinity engine games from the former kings of the CRPG, and for the sequel they rushed out a really lovely sequel that was just a Z budget Mass Effect action rpg. Whose main legacy was to be a touchstone for people who shouldn't even be allowed to play games, mostly because they jerked off to Hawke and Morrigan porn at some formative point in their stunted lives.
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Jokes on them. I didn't even play Baldur's Gate 
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a bone to pick posted:NMA is still toxic and hostile lol, its just that Fallout 3 made them irrelevant to listen to.
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basic hitler posted:remember how dragon age's first game was a mechanically then-modern reimagining of Baldur's Gate style infinity engine games from the former kings of the CRPG, and for the sequel they rushed out a really lovely sequel that was just a Z budget Mass Effect action rpg. Whose main legacy was to be a touchstone for people who shouldn't even be allowed to play games, mostly because they jerked off to Hawke and Morrigan porn at some formative point in their stunted lives. yea
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basic hitler posted:CRPG I'm confused as to when these games started being referred to as this instead of WRPG
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a bone to pick posted:I'm confused as to when these games started being referred to as this instead of WRPG WRPG is a bit broader. Fallout 4 and witcher 3 are WRPGs but they're not CRPGs. CRPGs are like the kind of micro-heavy pen-and-paper simulators like baldurs gate, icewind dale, pillars of eternity, Fallout 1&2. Basically stuff that doesn't work well on a console
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences
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Interesting, I've been calling games like Arcanum and Fallout western RPGS because they were developed in the west lol.
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a bone to pick posted:Interesting, I've been calling games like Arcanum and Fallout western RPGS because they were developed in the west lol. yea it denotes a style that's prominent in the west baldurs gate fundamentally doesn't play anything like a modern action rpg and to call them the same genre is pretty dumb
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Jun 2, 2017 20:26
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SpaceClown posted:Because its nonesense. A good game is a good game. Your enjoyment shouldnt hinge on whether or not its a carbon copy of the previous game. It's not nonsense. Something can be good without being a good example of the thing it claims to be. It's like what if you like hard SF, and someone says "HEY YOU SHOULD WATCH STAR WARS." You can't deny that it's a good movie, but it isn't what you wanted. If you're in the mood for one thing, someone sells you something else that you might like in other circumstances but which is not the thing you want right now by telling you it is the thing you want. The thing you were sold is good, but you were sort of cheated.
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basic hitler posted:yea it denotes a style that's prominent in the west Good luck defining your genres in a way which doesn't descend into that.
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basic hitler posted:yea it denotes a style that's prominent in the west
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How do you define the genre of diablo 2? WRPG? CRPG? Dungeon Crawler? Metroidvania souls-like dungeon-crawler shmup?
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a bone to pick posted:How do you define the genre of diablo 2? WRPG? CRPG? Dungeon Crawler? ARPG
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Jim Barris posted:ARPG well, my unpopular videogame opinion is that Diablo 2 becomes more of a SHMUP at the end than anything else.
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a bone to pick posted:well, my unpopular videogame opinion is that Diablo 2 becomes more of a SHMUP at the end than anything else. I've never liked any of the Diablo games, in fact, I've never liked Blizzards output in general.
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Updated my journal: there are apparently subsets of rpgs. I should talk to people around town and see what else has changed while I slumbered.
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phasmid posted:Updated my journal: there are apparently subsets of rpgs. I should talk to people around town and see what else has changed while I slumbered. Objective Failed:
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fruit on the bottom posted:Objective Failed: Frigid bitch!
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A game can be both a wrpg and a crpg.
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phasmid posted:Updated my journal: there are apparently subsets of rpgs. I should talk to people around town and see what else has changed while I slumbered. A duck-faced man runs towards you in the street, making intense eye contact with his arms at his sides, his jaw opens unnaturally wide, and he begins screaming. "WRPGs are western RPGs and they run the gamut from CRPGs which are RPG games that simulate a tabletop environment like D&D, and those are usually fairly open world with dungeons and free-form character creation, but not always. They're often either turn-based or something called "real time with pause" where you press a key to pause the game, and issue commands during combat". There's also action-RPGs which frequently have less open character creation but usually have better graphics, voice and a story that centers around a more traditional linear narrative. There are Also dungeon crawlers, a subset of action rpgs, and MOBAs, also a subset of this with RTS elements. Furthermore JRPGs are...." You notice you are getting very bored and sleepy and as he approaches you collapse. You wake up laying down in a dank cell in some kind of pale monster typing furiously on a computer and cultivating a keyboard goop stew. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a5fQ5cELtc
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So what kind of RPG would the Witcher be classified as? ARPG?
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a bone to pick posted:So what kind of RPG would the Witcher be classified as? ARPG?  actually i've never played it so idk whether it's good or bad, just making a joke
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a bone to pick posted:So what kind of RPG would the Witcher be classified as? ARPG? Polish RPG. Very thin genre.
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Rubellavator posted:Polish RPG. Very thin genre. euro-rpg is definitely a thing, including stuff like Gothic and Technomancer and Two Worlds they are usually janky but have some a lot of heart and redeeming features, Witcher 3 is like a euro rpg but taken to the MAX
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It blends genres a bit but ultimately is is a wrpg in the vein of like skyrim except good
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Lol euro-rpgs are known for their game engines that feel like they're stitched together with duct tape and staples.
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I feel like E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy is in this made-up category because 1) It's french as gently caress 2) even though it's source engine the game feels janky as poo poo and 3) it's fun as gently caress and I love it. Except it's an FPS so whatever.
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The Jumpoff posted:I feel like E.Y.E Divine Cybermancy is in this made-up category because 1) It's french as gently caress 2) even though it's source engine the game feels janky as poo poo and 3) it's fun as gently caress and I love it. EYE is the Source Engine's answer to STALKER
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SpaceClown posted:EYE is the Source Engine's answer to STALKER That would explain a lot because i loving love me some STALKER. Shadow of Chernobyl may be one of the jankiest, buggiest games i have played but none of it mattered because of how that game managed to grip me and force me to git gud so i didn't get murdered by a track suit wearing slav with a double barrel. I never played Clear Sky admittedly so my view of the series would probably be a lot different if i had.
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The Jumpoff posted:That would explain a lot because i loving love me some STALKER. Shadow of Chernobyl may be one of the jankiest, buggiest games i have played but none of it mattered because of how that game managed to grip me and force me to git gud so i didn't get murdered by a track suit wearing slav with a double barrel. I never played Clear Sky admittedly so my view of the series would probably be a lot different if i had. There's no mention of Call of Pripyat in your post which is a shameful omission. my current unpopular opinion is that the fog and sandstorms in bf1 look cool and cut down on snipers, which makes them A+ in my book
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I can't get into the Witcher series... solely for the fact I don't like the main dude I'm forced to play as. No character creation and albinos creep me out. Played all three and nope out about six or seven hours in, cuz I have this uneasy feeling that the power fantasy I'm in belongs to some geriatic polack and not me. Can't shake that off.
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I have never finished a witcher game but I've played all 3. I absolutely love the lore and the attention to detail, but the gameplay always sucks
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While I'm here... Expedition: Vikings is a cool and fun game, you all should play it.
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jfood posted:I can't get into the Witcher series... solely for the fact I don't like the main dude I'm forced to play as. No character creation and albinos creep me out.
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jfood posted:I can't get into the Witcher series... solely for the fact I don't like the main dude I'm forced to play as. No character creation and albinos creep me out. Yeah I am usually okay with either a character creator and a silent protagonist you can paint yourself onto or a written, set character. For some reason though that dude just doesn't hit me right and he feels worse than Autistic Batman from the new Deus Ex. Is it wrong that the lovingly animated naked girl in the bath at the start immediately made me think "this game isn't for me" because my brain made the association that if it opens with jackoff bait, it's also horrible spergy poo poo? That might not be fair to the game, but it's still an immediate mental association.
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