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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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I'll never stop finding it hilarious that some people care more about what the PM would do if he was character in a Tom Clancy fan fiction than the quality of life and themselves and everyone around them. And the amount of people who'll pretend to in order to selfishly protect their own interests to the detriment of others. And the amount of people who'll pretend to in order to win internet argument points.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870972949674774529 vote you fuckers!!
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Jun 3, 2017 13:05
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the Europe question (7/10!), if nothing else, is proof plenty that he can follow the wind if enough of his advisors yell at him. not very convincingly, but he can hold his mouth for more than ten seconds never mind not only abandoning Irish reunification the moment it became impolite to advocate more bombings, but revising his own history to be well both sides were very bad mkay let's move on now yay peace process!
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Jun 3, 2017 13:06
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I always used to think terrorism was bad because the indiscriminate killing of innocents was wrong, but now I see it's just because it's our civilians and not theirs.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:06
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Taking that stand might have hurt him but if he wasn't willing to take that stand here he likely wouldn't have been willing to take the stand against the death cult after Manchester, and that's for me maybe the most important thing he's done all campaign.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:07
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knox_harrington posted:This isn't correct. What about the nuclear weapons sharing agreements with Germany, Italy etc? That's not a consideration here. Trident always remains under the control of the PM and NATO explicitly never has the authority to order a country to perform a nuclear attack. At best you can argue not using it would violate the 'spirit' of our agreement, in which case I refer you to the other argument of who cares? It doesn't mean we're actually at any increased danger.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:07
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botany posted:Why does anybody give a poo poo about stated positions on nuclear weapons by politicians anyway, if the global situation deteriorates drastically enough that nukes are used all the campaign talk has long gone out the window anyway. It's not like Corbyn or anyone else is going to go "well Russian-Alien hybrids are storming our shores from their strange cloaking ships but I gave a promise to the Daily Mail so swings and roundabouts" Yes but if only the commander of civilization-ending weaponry had pretended/admitted he's a psychopath on TV during the campaign then the baddies would never have invaded on the first place. They're baddies so obviously the second you show a glimpse of rationality and humanity, they will gamble their entire civilization and everything they know and love on a lark on the off chance that when you said you would weigh the situation and decide accordingly you were thinking "and in no situation will the answer ever be 'launch'". That's why it's very important to only elect people so good at pretending to be raving mad that it's indistinguishable from the real thing, but absolutely do not gently caress up and elect an actual crazy person. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 13:07
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peanut- posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870972949674774529 Just to inject a bit of hope (I know, I know), from what I've observed from my friends and acquaintances (early-mid 20s) it's become a bit of a faux pas to not vote. Anecdotal obviously, but it's something. The visceral brutality and unapologetic nature of Tory policy has energised quite a few people I think.
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Jakabite posted:Just to inject a bit of hope (I know, I know), from what I've observed from my friends and acquaintances (early-mid 20s) it's become a bit of a faux pas to not vote. Anecdotal obviously, but it's something. The visceral brutality and unapologetic nature of Tory policy has energised quite a few people I think. two-thirds is not enough to achieve the YouGov scenario, which iirc requires something like 80% youth turnout
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Jun 3, 2017 13:13
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ronya posted:he could have, and should have, publicly revised his opinion, as he readily did with Northern Ireland You mean that he should have told a laughably transparent lie and thus harmed his reputation for integrity, i.e. one of his strongest assets. Seriously mate, for someone who mainly posts in PPE-speak you seem kinda bad at this whole politics thing. jabby posted:Yeah as much as a couple of people were saying he'd hosed the whole election, the backlash really hasn't materialised. Broadcasters have been obliged to show both him and May looking uncomfortable, and her on a much more important topic. Papers have been reasonably split and even the Murdoch press hasn't pushed the nuke thing super hard. It's just not a new issue and there's not much more political capital to be gained. It's kinda interesting that Corbs apparently has managed to gain a teflon coating for the election just because everything negative about him has been paraded around so long that people apparently have got tired of it.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:14
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jabby posted:That's not a consideration here. Trident always remains under the control of the PM and NATO explicitly never has the authority to order a country to perform a nuclear attack. At best you can argue not using it would violate the 'spirit' of our agreement, in which case I refer you to the other argument of who cares? It doesn't mean we're actually at any increased danger. it gets even better quote:The U.S. military has canceled a controversial war plan designed to strike adversaries promptly – even preemptively – with conventional and nuclear weapons. The strike plan was known as Concept Plan (CONPLAN) 8022 and first entered into effect in the summer of 2004 to provide the president with a prompt, global strike capability against time-urgent and mobile targets. US abandoned SIOP
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Jun 3, 2017 13:15
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870973892474671104 Lots of polls out today. The Ipsos Mori showing Labour only five points behind despite weighting the youth vote downwards gives me a bit of sense of excitement. My dream scenario is the latest YouGov actually showing Labour equal or ahead of the Tories.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:18
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870973892474671104 oh christ i'm going to have a heart attack
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Jun 3, 2017 13:20
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ALL POLLS SHOCK POLLS: TORIES WITH A 40 POINT LEAD DUE TO NUKES.
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Raeg posted:ALL POLLS SHOCK POLLS: TORIES WITH A 40 POINT LEAD DUE TO NUKES.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:24
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Pissflaps posted:No, because it's not a requirement of being a NATO member to have your own nuclear weapons. Trident literally was not a thing until the 90s, which automatically brings its usefulness into question
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Jun 3, 2017 13:25
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catching up on question time and holy gently caress this audience are blood thirsty
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Jun 3, 2017 13:25
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870973892474671104 Given May's absence from the debate and when the fieldwork was done I'd not be surprised to see yougov showing a slight labour lead with the others still narrowing (assuming the ipsos mori one wasn't a huge outlier). I'd also expect a bounce back to the Tories in the last week of polling so even in this case wouldn't take anything for granted - labour have to keep the heat on. Also slightly worried that a bunch of the olds will have already voted Tory via post but what can you do about that I guess
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Jun 3, 2017 13:29
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Ratjaculation posted:catching up on question time and holy gently caress this audience are blood thirsty sketch concept: at question time, party leaders struggle under a barrage of pink-faced men who want to know their policy in case of martian invasion
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Jun 3, 2017 13:33
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ThomasPaine posted:Given May's absence from the debate and when the fieldwork was done I'd not be surprised to see yougov showing a slight labour lead with the others still narrowing (assuming the ipsos mori one wasn't a huge outlier). I'd also expect a bounce back to the Tories in the last week of polling so even in this case wouldn't take anything for granted - labour have to keep the heat on. Personally I think last nights debate will have slowed a lot of the momentum Labour had built up on Wednesday, and a shock poll putting them ahead being splashed everywhere would actually help to build it back up again. On the other hand it would help mobilise the Tory vote (although they almost all vote anyway) and potentially put off anyone who was voting Labour but didn't want Corbyn to be PM. Swings and roundabouts.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:33
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jabby posted:Personally I think last nights debate will have slowed a lot of the momentum Labour had built up on Wednesday, and a shock poll putting them ahead being splashed everywhere would actually help to build it back up again. On the other hand it would help mobilise the Tory vote (although they almost all vote anyway) and potentially put off anyone who was voting Labour but didn't want Corbyn to be PM. Swings and roundabouts. Leading polls is bad for Corbyn. I mean you could also say a Labour lead might enthuse voters who thought it was a lost election, there's a lot of possibles but all you can really do is looking at the numbers at the time and see if they hold or not.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:36
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Apropos of nothing in particular, I'm never, ever going to get bored of my Trident > Metal Gear word filter.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:37
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i like that it went off global nuclear annihilation for a few minutes but then a fat bloke brought it back up
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Jun 3, 2017 13:38
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Apropos of nothing in particular, I'm never, ever going to get bored of my Trident > Metal Gear word filter. Please tell me how I can make this a thing
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Jun 3, 2017 13:38
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All I think of when I read the debate is the Jim Murphy-atar.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:42
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ronya posted:two-thirds is not enough to achieve the YouGov scenario, which iirc requires something like 80% youth turnout Not quite... quote:Take our most recent poll. After we had weighted our sample, taken account of how likely people say they are to vote, and weighted down the answers of those people who didn’t vote last time, we were left with a sample that implies turnout of 51% among people under 25 and 75% among people aged 65+; a turnout gap of 24 points between young and old turnout in the referendum for 18-24 year olds was 63%, please vote and go do GOTV stuff if you are able.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:44
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Trident literally was not a thing until the 90s, which automatically brings its usefulness into question We had Polaris before Trident.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:44
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Jun 3, 2017 13:47
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Would a dream team of Labour, SNP and Lib Dem happen? Will dreams be real and your horrible Tory nightmare conclude? It's like Piccolo, Gohan and Krillian fighting 1st form Freiza
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Jun 3, 2017 13:51
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Baron Corbyn posted:YouGov's seat projections updated poo poo if those numbers were accurate corbs would be pm Anidav posted:Would a dream team of Labour, SNP and Lib Dem happen? Well the Tories wouldn't be able to make a majority even with the lib dems, so what's the alternative. It would be a hell of a weak minority government but nevertheless. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 13:52
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Goku is the nuclear warhead n this analogy.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:52
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ThomasPaine posted:Please tell me how I can make this a thing I just used this app to make a word filter. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/word-replacer-ii/djakfbefalbkkdgnhkkdiihelkjdpbfh?hl=en It's good - always makes me read posts in the voice of Colonel Campbell  
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Jun 3, 2017 13:53
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ThomasPaine posted:poo poo if those numbers were accurate corbs would be pm I think what we shouldn't lose sight of this week is that hope is a lie.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:53
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ThomasPaine posted:poo poo if those numbers were accurate corbs would be pm SNP on 47, making it a dead heat, so it would all rest on the shoulders of Tim loving Farron. I wonder what Corbyn's policy on turning frogs gay is.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:53
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Baron Corbyn posted:SNP on 47, making it a dead heat, so it would all rest on the shoulders of Tim loving Farron. I wonder what Corbyn's policy on turning frogs gay is. I still think, weirdly, the SNP is being underestimated at 47.
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Jun 3, 2017 13:54
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ThomasPaine posted:poo poo if those numbers were accurate corbs would be pm Keep in mind the numbers here are a midpoint (or some kind of average) of YouGov's 95% confidence intervals, which are fairly wide and do not rule out a Conservative majority: https://yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2017/ even in the case that their methodology is in fact 100% valid
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Jun 3, 2017 13:56
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Cerebral Bore posted:You mean that he should have told a laughably transparent lie and thus harmed his reputation for integrity, i.e. one of his strongest assets. Seriously mate, for someone who mainly posts in PPE-speak you seem kinda bad at this whole politics thing. he should have trotted out the established Labour party line on nuclear weapons and first use and commitment to non-proliferation. what reputation for integrity. focus groups mainly ridicule the man. "lost old man" is a good response Baron Corbyn posted:Not quite... oh that's much better news then ronya fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 13:56
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Raeg posted:I still think, weirdly, the SNP is being underestimated at 47. their 95% confidence interval goes from 26 to 55, 26 would be crazy
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Jun 3, 2017 13:58
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ronya posted:he should have trotted out the established Labour party line on nuclear weapons and first use and commitment to non-proliferation. lol, loving focus groups. You really are bad at this, aren't you?
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ronya posted:. focus groups mainly ridicule the man. has it really been long enough that you've felt safe to revert to focus grouping an election as a good thing
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