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Norns posted:I'd probably put Marco a bit higher than Danica? I mean she's had one win in her entire career, and zero cup wins. danica has a higher average finish in indycar than marco rofl marco is gutter trash
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danica also bailed when the field got much better, but yeah and graham is a whiny silverspoon bitch but he can be super aggressive and fast and fun to watch sometimes so i appreciate having him around
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Cygni posted:danica also bailed when the field got much better, but yeah He's really nice to fans which is the bizarre thing. I like the stories of him goofing around with friends and family at mid ohio  . Likely around the same time I was watching CART practices with my dad, brother. Marco likes to be left alone though. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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I do find Danica's "im going to die in a cup race" post race interviews pretty fun to watch though
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Cygni posted:danica also bailed when the field got much better, but yeah even comparing them just until 2011 when she bailed, she still beats him
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Marco isn't very fast at all. He's fairly consistent I guess.
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VikingSkull posted:Mario really only had one rival, and that was AJ I always thought as an all-rounder that Emerson was as good as either of them. Emmo's career is underrated in general.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Marco isn't very fast at all. He's fairly consistent I guess. I think he got pushed into the series too quickly. He should have done GP3/GP2, Atlantics, IMSA or even CCWS to really build his skills up. Dude has not adapted well to the DW-12 era.
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It's not like Marco ever seemed like a raw talent that needed refinement. He's just slow. You can teach a quick guy to crash less, but it's much harder to teach speed.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:It's not like Marco ever seemed like a raw talent that needed refinement. He's just slow. You can teach a quick guy to crash less, but it's much harder to teach speed. He ran only 6 Indy Lights races. Out of those? He won 3, finished 2nd and finished 3rd. I mean that's impressive, but that's a really small sample size to put a kid in the car for. Especially considering the IL field back then was pretty medicore. If you look at the career path of most modern indy drivers (CART era and beyond)? They had to run Indy Lights, Atlantics, IMSA, Can Am, Trans Am, for a few years to get their feet wet.
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I was hoping that Macro's engine would have been sacrificed to the track gods last week but I remembered he doesn't push the car at all. e: regarding prior experience: I think Marco got leapfrogged due to his family name.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I always thought as an all-rounder that Emerson was as good as either of them. Emmo's career is underrated in general. AJ 4 Indy 500's 1 Daytona 500 1 Le Mans Overall 2 Daytona 24 Overall 1 Sebring Overall Mario 1 Indy 500 1 Daytona 500 1 Daytona 24 Overall 3 Sebring Overall 1 Monaco 1 WDC Emmo isn't even close
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VikingSkull posted:Mario really only had one rival, and that was AJ It's a hard thing to rate because the field gets deeper as time goes on. More talented drivers in every ride, and more competitive rides. Let's face it, Pippa and Buddy were dragging at the back of the field, but a low-budget ride 30 or 50 years ago would be all kinds of laps down without even having anything go wrong.
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Time for Hinch to win from the back!
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IOwnCalculus posted:It's a hard thing to rate because the field gets deeper as time goes on. More talented drivers in every ride, and more competitive rides. Let's face it, Pippa and Buddy were dragging at the back of the field, but a low-budget ride 30 or 50 years ago would be all kinds of laps down without even having anything go wrong. Hell, during the Emmo/Al Jr. duel in '89, 3rd place Raul Boesel was 6 laps down at the end.
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VikingSkull posted:AJ When Mario, Emmo, and AJ were racing each other Foyt wasn't even in the same Zip Code as the other 2, although it was partly equipment related.
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Couple questions from a relative newbie (I mostly just watch F1 but understand very little from a technical perspective): - With driverchat going on, who are some of the fan favorites (aside from, like, Hinch)? - With how similar the cars are, are small teams competitive? If not, where does the advantage/deficit come from? - Does the series often see dominance from a single driver, a la Vettel or Hamilton? - Are the Lights ever worth watching? e: I've gone to a day at Belle Isle for the last two years (just riding 500 excitement) and it's a tough race for me to watch. sleepwalkers fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Boy Honda is just stomping the field in this one, huh?
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There's still time for a string of Honda powered grenades.
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sleepwalkers posted:Couple questions from a relative newbie (I mostly just watch F1 but understand very little from a technical perspective): - Kanaan and Helio are both very popular (though the latter isn't too well liked here), Newgarden is as well, and there are a few guys that have a bit of a cult following like Sato and Conor Daly - They are indeed, mainly due to pit strategy and the fact that even the small teams usually have some competitive drivers - More team dominance than drivers (Penske is king poo poo, followed by Ganassi and Andretti, and then the rest) - Sometimes
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sleepwalkers posted:Couple questions from a relative newbie (I mostly just watch F1 but understand very little from a technical perspective): Fan favorites: biggest cheers at IMS come for guys like Tony Kanaan, Helio Castroneves, and any American driver. Small teams: yes, as evidenced by the fact that Graham looks set to cruise to victory, and that team is almost always a single car. The cars are largely spec but more resources generally results in more development in the areas that are allowed. Shock absorbers, wind tunnels, etc. Bigger teams can learn more about conditions, spend more time training pit stops. Single driver dominance: not really. Some years Penske will have the field covered but it's still a tossup for which Penske car wins. Lights: yes at Indy.
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The only drivers worth giving a poo poo about are Daly and Newgarden.
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For reference, the biggest cheers around me for the driver intros at the 500 were for TK, Helio, Alonso, and Rossi
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OhsH posted:The only drivers worth giving a poo poo about are Daly and Newgarden.  
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Regarding the yakking between the announcers about right foot / left foot braking - wasn't it a minor story when the DW12 showed up that it doesn't really allow right foot braking anymore?
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My favorite driver is Ryan "World Class" Hunter-Reay.
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Nice recovery for Hinchquote:Regarding the yakking between the announcers about right foot / left foot braking - wasn't it a minor story when the DW12 showed up that it doesn't really allow right foot braking anymore? Dario was pretty miffed about it IIRC
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step your victory lane game up indycar goddamn
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Rahal leads pretty well from flag to flag. Dixie finishes second with a left foot injury from last week's crazy 500 wreck. Hinch spins on the opening lap and claws back to finish 3rd. A very good podium.
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Cool run for Dixon getting second after that wreck last week "and new points leader, Scott Dixon" Man gently caress Scott Dixon
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7 different winners so far, 3 Chevy, 4 Honda
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Kind of refreshing after Pagenaud's dominating 2016.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Nice recovery for Hinch Yup, you're right. He managed to get a pedal kit approved to let him keep right foot braking but most drivers just went to left foot braking.
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iospace posted:7 different winners so far, 3 Chevy, 4 Honda i missed the race so i dunno if they mentioned it, but thats a record i think.
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I was hoping Graham was going to come hose Bobby down with champagne mid interview there. Dixon is limping pretty hard. To be expected for sure, but still.
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Cygni posted:i missed the race so i dunno if they mentioned it, but thats a record i think. Tied with 2000 maybe. There were 7 different winners in the first 7 races there.
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