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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Darth Walrus posted:

Man, I heard skunk could gently caress you up, but not that hard.

You're right. What was I thinking.

500 seems about right.

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jBrereton posted:

does this include SF's non-participation

I'll have to think about that.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Extreme0 posted:

Never underestimate the stupidity of British People.


So 420 Tory seats then.

:420:

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
This is surprising

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/871091982688505856

ro5s
Dec 27, 2012

A happy little mouse!


I feel hope and it's awful.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


jBrereton posted:

what do we reckon, then, 370 tory seats?

650 Labour seats. They are even going to win every Northern Irish seat. Piece of piss.

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH

Maybe... not all brits want to nuke everybody? :unsmith:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Strangely enough people might not care that much about hypothetical nuke fantasies when their lives are going to poo poo due to Tory fuckery.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Spangly A posted:

Mason's hardly going to have any politically naive disaffecteds rounding him up imo, I think the bloodbath would occur if Labour actually win, which would lead to one hell of a What Now problem for campaigners.

well he'll get on quite well, his career isn't dependent on having medium.com links passed around, but he'll be quite roundly criticised for TINAing nonetheless. suddenly no longer Cool and Good for online consumption. which goes some way to accounting for the confusion - you can get only get away with essays like that in the brief window up to an exciting election

ISeeCuckedPeople
Feb 7, 2017

by Smythe

forkboy84 posted:

Nah, it should be the goal of a politician to protect workers from predatory employers, protect the ill from predatory "health" companies, protect commuters from predatory transport companies, & generally to protect humanity from the ravages of the free market by ensuring it is overthrown.

See, I can transpose my politics on politicians too. Saying what the ideal politician should do is worthless because ideal politicians don't work. If they did, we'd not need governments.


Nihilism is a worthless contribution to politics. Seriously, if all you have to contribute is everything is loving poo poo so suck it up then gently caress off.

Haha I'm not a Nihilist in the least. I'm simply pointing out that one can not be extremely leftist and hope to survive in politics.

Lets take Gustavo Petro, former member of the M-19 Guerilla Terrorist Organization who demobilized and became a politican for the Democratic Pole in Colombia.

Petro is a very smart, college educated man and of the best political speakers in the country - but he is also very prideful. He believes only his way is the right way. Believes that he is at war for the soul of the country. He doesn't talk to anyone but his advisors and other politicians of his party. He seeks not to work with people of other parties. He's very narrowminded. A bit like a mule.

In 2011 he won the election to be mayor of Bogota, Colombia's biggest city. He proceeded to enact radical policies around the city all while ignoring many of his advisors. He defunded the police, started providing free food to the cities homeless, required that homeless housing be built in all the neighborhoods of the city and started a plan to de-privatize trash collection and convert it over to a public service.

This all caused a major scandal - sent his approval ratings through the trash. The upper class and middle class disliked him because he started moving homeless people to their neighborhoods and crime shot up in what was already one of the most dangerous city in the continent. The lower classes disliked him because he ceased the heavy policing policies that kept a lot of their neighborhoods a lot safer than they were before and because before he had anything in place to take over trash collection he announced he was terminating all the contracts for trash collection in the city. As a result no trash was collected in the city for months. He bongdongled the whole plan to make trash collection a public service and it ended up painting a big target on him by the right. The Inspector General of the country stripped him of his position and he ended up destroying any hope of Colombia having any kind of successful leftist movement through incompetency and unwillingness to work with or even talk to everyone involved in running the city. He saw everyone as his enemies.

I feel that model occurs quite often, and those who succeed with this kind of worldview end up running their country into the ground more so than doing anything to better it.

ISeeCuckedPeople fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 3, 2017

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

I'm still thinking of the peak comedy option: The Tories lose a single seat, somewhere insignificant.

So it can go down in history that Theresa May's head rolled after losing one seat.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

waffle posted:

Maybe... not all brits want to nuke everybody? :unsmith:

It was the 72% of people who had watched the debate that surprised me. That would equate to about 30,000,000 viewers.


Edit: Faisal has correct to 'seen or heard about'.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


ro5s posted:

I feel hope and it's awful.

Don't worry. It will go away in about two-three days.

waffle posted:

Maybe... not all brits want to nuke everybody? :unsmith:

A shame. We need Trident to get rid of the plauge that is people in this island.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

Who did the Guardian endorse last time, the Lib Dems?

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH

Pissflaps posted:

It was the 72% of people who had watched the debate that surprised me. That would equate to about 30,000,000 viewers.


Edit: Faisal has correct to 'seen or heard about'.
Yeah, seen/heard about makes more sense to me since it would've been on most of the papers/TV afterwards, and people love to say they're informed about things (so surely at least a few are lying and "heard about" = "yes, i have heard of it, thanks to this question")

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
‘If there is hope,’ wrote Winston, ‘it lies in the 18-24 year olds.’

If there was hope, it MUST lie in the 18-24 year olds, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Twitter, could the force to elect someone who wasn't a total poo poo ever be generated.

Winston thought about this for a while, and then opened the loving window and jumped out to his death.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

It was the 72% of people who had watched the debate that surprised me. That would equate to about 30,000,000 viewers.


Edit: Faisal has correct to 'seen or heard about'.

I don't see what's so surprising about that, it was an extremely exciting debate :colbert:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

happening bunker

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
I'm older than 24 and i'm a good guy gently caress all this ageisit poo poo. Voting MAY strong, OLD, stable.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Angepain posted:

‘If there is hope,’ wrote Winston, ‘it lies in the 18-24 year olds.’

If there was hope, it MUST lie in the 18-24 year olds, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Twitter, could the force to elect someone who wasn't a total poo poo ever be generated.

Winston thought about this for a while, and then opened the loving window and jumped out to his death.

lol

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe
You can draw better conclusions by comparing your stubborn, trashy person to Blair, a blue labour guy, rather than Corbyn, who, despite looking like he has his own private mausoleum in the kremlin, is trying to work against the slow drag to the right we have been experienceing here for decades.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
hot take: Venezuela's problem is not leftist ideology, or even rightist ideology, but that it's a small, moderately rich developed country steeped in many decades of stable Polder model governance - not much older than the Swiss magic formula, in fact - that woke up one day and suddenly realized that it's bolted on to a much larger, desperately poor undeveloped country

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Regarde Aduck posted:

I'm older than 24 and i'm a good guy gently caress all this ageisit poo poo. Voting MAY strong, OLD, stable.

danny divito account spotted

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871096654212063232

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

what is even the point of polling jesus gently caress

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
not sure blair of all people is most like blue labour...

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Aurubin posted:

Who did the Guardian endorse last time, the Lib Dems?

Labour

This discrepancy among the polls is interesting, it's looking more and more like ComRes are the outlier and not YouGov, so either they'll look really stupid or their methodology will probably become the new gold standard for calling British elections.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

ronya posted:

hot take: Venezuela's problem is not leftist ideology, or even rightist ideology
it's the left realising that the right were having a lot of fun, as it turns out, and slowly becoming them, hth.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.
Death is anywhere from almost to kinda certain.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Angepain posted:

what is even the point of polling jesus gently caress

I think by polling day we'll be able to say that the tories have somewhere between a 10% or -10% lead over labour.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

the ORB is forsaking us

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

looking forward to the labour/libdem/snp/dup/sdlp/pc/ukip/green coalition

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
These numbers just aren't as good as they seem. The real shock of 2015 was the Tories devouring the Lib Dem seats and the SNP continuing their wipeout of basically all of Labour's scottish seats. The first will absolutely happen again to some degree, and the second most likely will be worse, with the Conservatives possibly picking up a handful of SNP seats.

Labour has the same boundary advantages (for the last time most likely) but faces all the same issues with votes concentrated in places they don't matter, demographics who don't turn up, and now incumbent advantages on specific MPs that have grown even stronger.

I'm still super super cynical. It's going to take a miracle, and, for real, if you want anything that's even something like a Labour victory you need to get Thursday off and get your asses up to get out that motherfucking vote, if it's not too late to sign up.

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Angepain posted:

‘If there is hope,’ wrote Winston, ‘it lies in the 18-24 year olds.’

If there was hope, it MUST lie in the 18-24 year olds, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Twitter, could the force to elect someone who wasn't a total poo poo ever be generated.

Winston thought about this for a while, and then opened the loving window and jumped out to his death.

This is beautiful.

Antwan3K
Mar 8, 2013

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

I'm still thinking of the peak comedy option: The Tories lose a single seat, somewhere insignificant.

So it can go down in history that Theresa May's head rolled after losing one seat.

Tories lose only Thanet South

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

jBrereton posted:

it's the left realising that the right were having a lot of fun, as it turns out, and slowly becoming them, hth.

pick your favourite scandinavian country, any one, and consider how its politics would respond if it suddenly had to absorb about five times as many people, many illiterate, mostly subsistence, and it has to do it as of yesterday.

keep in mind that the bottom income decile in a rich country are several times richer than the top income decile in a poor country, generally speaking, so suddenly nearly everyone who thinks of themselves as the working poor is suddenly the working rich

how long would a social democratic tradition last?

JOHNSON COCKSLAP
Apr 2, 2017

by Lowtax
if the scots vote in any tories they deserve to be dragged out the the eu with no indyref2

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

CoolCab posted:

These numbers just aren't as good as they seem. The real shock of 2015 was the Tories devouring the Lib Dem seats and the SNP continuing their wipeout of basically all of Labour's scottish seats. The first will absolutely happen again to some degree, and the second most likely will be worse, with the Conservatives possibly picking up a handful of SNP seats.

Labour has the same boundary advantages (for the last time most likely) but faces all the same issues with votes concentrated in places they don't matter, demographics who don't turn up, and now incumbent advantages on specific MPs that have grown even stronger.

I'm still super super cynical. It's going to take a miracle, and, for real, if you want anything that's even something like a Labour victory you need to get Thursday off and get your asses up to get out that motherfucking vote, if it's not too late to sign up.

well the good-ish news on that front is that Lib Dem and ScotLab have run low of seats to be eaten

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Yougov in ten minutes poll lickers.

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Wow

https://twitter.com/_tom_burke_/status/871093434228125698

82%. That's high.

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