UKMT General Elextravaganza 2017: Lord Buckethead would have won

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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is: This poll is closed.
Labour	907	49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative)	48	2.64%
Liberal Democrats	31	1.71%
UKIP	13	0.72%
Plaid Cymru	25	1.38%
Green	22	1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party	12	0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party	1	0.06%
Scottish National Party	59	3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist	4	0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian	3	0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist	36	1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots	35	1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash	8	0.44%
Monster Raving Loony	49	2.70%
Space Navies Party	39	2.15%
Independent / Single Issue	2	0.11%
Can't Vote	188	10.35%
Won't Vote	8	0.44%
Spoiled Ballot	15	0.83%
Pissflaps	312	17.17%
Total:	1817 votes

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Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

Hoops posted:

How come polling intention polls don't include the SNP by the way?

They will just not in the little graphical twitter summaries.

I believe there's a big Scotland only poll out tonight.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 21:46

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# ? May 14, 2024 16:00

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

It's all because old people vote more than young people

# ? Jun 3, 2017 21:47

Hoops: Aug 19, 2005; A Black Mark For Retarded Posting

Pissflaps posted:

They will just not in the little graphical twitter summaries.

I believe there's a big Scotland only poll out tonight.

Oh right sorry the numbers don't up add to 100%, oops.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 21:48

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

forkboy84 posted:

Tories are going to win, Labour will get more votes than in 2015 and still come away with less MPs and this won't be taken as a lesson that this dumb country desperately needs electoral reform.

labour mp's desperately clinging to the landslide they'll win after 10+ years of tory rule when PR would basically stop it happening

# ? Jun 3, 2017 21:48

spectralent: Oct 1, 2014; Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Angepain posted:

�If there is hope,� wrote Winston, �it lies in the 18-24 year olds.�

If there was hope, it MUST lie in the 18-24 year olds, because only there in those swarming disregarded masses, 85 per cent of the population of Twitter, could the force to elect someone who wasn't a total poo poo ever be generated.

Winston thought about this for a while, and then opened the loving window and jumped out to his death.

Remember tiny train world.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 21:54

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Jose posted:

labour mp's desperately clinging to the landslide they'll win after 10+ years of tory rule when PR would basically stop it happening

Which has been the story of the Labour Party & PR for just shy of 90 years. loving shortsighted twats.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 21:54

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

I guess the main takeaway message is that Labour has lost some of the momentum it's had recently, although doesn't seem to have fallen back.

Potential upside? The best poll for Labour was the only one conducted entirely today, and also specifically said the debate was good for Labour.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:00

SteelMentor: Oct 15, 2012; TOXIC

Jesus Christ these loving polls are going to give me a heart attack. How sodding useless are they.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:01

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

Which has been the story of the Labour Party & PR for just shy of 90 years. loving shortsighted twats.

The problem is that PR very rarely favours the Government so there's very little incentive for whoever's in power to implement it.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:01

vodkat: Jun 30, 2012; cannot legally be sold as vodka

Anyone know how many more polls we can expect before the big day?

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:07

BillBear: Mar 13, 2013; Ask me about running my country straight into the ground every time I play EU4 multiplayer.

Keep in mind, going by YouGov's current poll still the Tories still lose their majority.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:07

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

The emotional whiplash in this thread is getting annoying. Stop crying everytime a poll isn't exactly how you wanted it.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:07

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

Regarde Aduck posted:

The emotional whiplash in this thread is getting annoying. Stop crying everytime a poll isn't exactly how you wanted it.

We have a long tradition of hyperbole here at the something awful dot com forums, I wouldn't put too much into it

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:09

Prince John: Jun 20, 2006; Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Grapplejack posted:

Wait, is one of Corbyns policies actually to dismantle parts of mi5/6? I don't recall anything about either of them but I've not dug too deep into Corbyns positions on the intelligence community.

I think it's possibly referring to this story about McDonnell.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:10

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Regarde Aduck posted:

The emotional whiplash in this thread is getting annoying. Stop crying everytime a poll isn't exactly how you wanted it.

the worst possible thing a person can ever do is to have any kind of hope for something that ends up not happening, so in order to not be caught out as having positive feelings we have to pump up our catastrophisers to 100% capacity

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:14

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

jabby posted:

I guess the main takeaway message is that Labour has lost some of the momentum it's had recently, although doesn't seem to have fallen back.

Potential upside? The best poll for Labour was the only one conducted entirely today, and also specifically said the debate was good for Labour.

The other upside is that we've had a poll that isn't just "Labour are doing better but will still lose", it's "if this happens Corbyn will probably be Prime Minister". It's possible for Labour to win, we need to work hard to deliver its vote.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:16

dispatch_async: Nov 28, 2014; Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

Labour pledges VAT cut to help families on low incomes

quote:

Labour will aim to help tens of millions of people who are struggling on lower incomes by cutting the rate of VAT if it wins the general election, the shadow chancellor John McDonnell has told the Observer.

The new pledge to use the proceeds of future growth to reduce VAT from its current 20% level came as Theresa May and her senior ministers appeared to be at loggerheads over the Conservatives� own tax policies, adding to an impression that the Tories are suffering a bout of late campaign jitters before polling day on Thursday.

As the parties prepared their final pitches amid signs that the polls continue to narrow, a confident McDonnell reiterated his message that 95% of people would face no rises in their income tax bills under a Labour government.

But in a high-stakes move, he went further, saying his priority would be to deliver a �fair tax system� under which income tax rises for the highest earners would be followed by VAT reductions for all, when economic growth allows. Such a reduction, he said, would deliver the greatest proportionate benefits to those on low and middle incomes.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:17

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

Irony Be My Shield posted:

The other upside is that we've had a poll that isn't just "Labour are doing better but will still lose", it's "if this happens Corbyn will probably be Prime Minister". It's possible for Labour to win, we need to work hard to deliver its vote.

Yeah, a hung parliament is now the best case scenario rather than just mitigating the loss. That shouldn't be underestimated, it's a huge difference from the start of the campaign.

This also seems significant, I think it's the first time Corbyn has surpassed May in popularity:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871113524310925312

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:21

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

dispatch_async posted:

Labour pledges VAT cut to help families on low incomes

Labour, promoting tax cuts?? :monocle:

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:22

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

ronya posted:

well the good-ish news on that front is that Lib Dem and ScotLab have run low of seats to be eaten

Well, no, because former Conservative seats the Lib Dems lost will most likely be held by the Conservatives because they were seats that Labour wasn't and likely still isn't competitive in (particularly since the Lib Dems are still trying to regain them with all their might and looks like failing) which splits the leftish/Remain vote.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:22

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

That's cool, a return to 17.5% should be fine really.

Jesus it's ridiculous how much of a hard fight it is to get any tax back to 2007 level.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:22

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Regarde Aduck posted:

The emotional whiplash in this thread is getting annoying. Stop crying everytime a poll isn't exactly how you wanted it.

Regarde Aduck posted:

N..nnnoooooooooooooooooooo

69. Sixty nine. Six and a nine. 96 but the other way around. Not as funny as 1488.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:24

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

i thought VAT was just inherently meant to increase forever, like inflation

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:27

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

Also, if I recall correctly YouGov provided the single poll that predicted a Yes win in the Scottish referendum, they were one of the highest for Labour in the 2015 election and they were one of the highest for Remain in the EU referendum (please correct me if I'm wrong). Too many internet polls, not enough telephone ones, iirc?

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:27

StoicFnord: Jul 27, 2012; "If you want to make enemies....try to change something."; College Slice

Some poo poo may be going down https://twitter.com/WillHeaven/status/871115739775860736

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:28

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

Angepain posted:

i thought VAT was just inherently meant to increase forever, like inflation

Argentina increased VAT to 21% as an "emergency measure" in 1995.

It's still 21%

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:30

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

dispatch_async posted:

Labour pledges VAT cut to help families on low incomes

Seems like he's trailing this ahead of his interview on Marr tomorrow.

Sounds like a good idea to me. It blows a hole in the Tory attack that Labour are the party of higher taxes, and gives him something nice to contrast with the chaotic tax message the Tories have put out today. The only downside is going to be 'how can you pay for it', but gently caress it if the Tories can say their immigration target is an 'aspiration' then so can we.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:31

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

StoicFnord posted:

Some poo poo may be going down https://twitter.com/WillHeaven/status/871115739775860736

im going for road accident

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:31

dispatch_async: Nov 28, 2014; Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

CoolCab posted:

Also, if I recall correctly YouGov provided the single poll that predicted a Yes win in the Scottish referendum, they were one of the highest for Labour in the 2015 election and they were one of the highest for Remain in the EU referendum (please correct me if I'm wrong). Too many internet polls, not enough telephone ones, iirc?

They were one of the pollsters that had Leave ahead. It caused a bit of a public spat at the time: http://uk.businessinsider.com/pollsters-clash-over-brexit-predictions-2016-5

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:32

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

you guys beat the bbc app notifications

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:33

Prince John: Jun 20, 2006; Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Caution: this may raise blood pressure. A textbook illustration of earlier comments in this thread on the Economist:

The Middle Has Fallen Out of British Politics. They're endorsing the LibDems (lol).

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:37

Antwan3K: Mar 8, 2013

Prince John posted:

Caution: this may raise blood pressure. A textbook illustration of earlier comments in this thread on the Economist:

The Middle Has Fallen Out of British Politics. They're endorsing the LibDems (lol).

Assuming that anyone follows their endorsement, this mostly illustrates how terrible the Tory campaign is going imo and only good news for Labour

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:39

blunt: Jul 7, 2005

Sorry to cut into pollchat but it's kicking off in London.

http://news.sky.com/story/knife-attack-after-car-mounts-pavement-in-london-reports-10903580

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:40

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

blunt posted:

Sorry to cut into pollchat but it's kicking off in London.

http://news.sky.com/story/knife-attack-after-car-mounts-pavement-in-london-reports-10903580

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg

loving for gently caress's sakes

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:42

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

dispatch_async posted:

Labour pledges VAT cut to help families on low incomes

Another good Labour policy. Shame we won't see them enacted eh?

But I guess we're about to go into another period of not campaigning with what news is coming in from London. gently caress. (And for clarity's sake, that gently caress is aimed at the horror of the attack & their increasing frequency rather anything politically partisan)

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:42

Pochoclo: Feb 4, 2008; No...; Clapping Larry

Not again

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:42

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Press don't know anything at this point apart from some stuff has been closed so take everything you hear with a huge pinch of salt.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:43

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Ban bridges, imo.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:44

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
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Hello, dear

I've stopped paying attention to this kind of thing in the news. I just look at the obligatory newspaper cartoons a day or two later admiring our national spirit in the face of adversity :britain:

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:46

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# ? May 14, 2024 16:00

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

crispix posted:

I've stopped paying attention to this kind of thing in the news. I just look at the obligatory newspaper cartoons a day or two later admiring our national spirit in the face of adversity

A pretty smart choice. I stuck on the BBC News Channel & it's just..."We know something big & important has happened but we have no details so here's some tweets". Rolling news is bad but it's also the sort of thing you can't imagine ever being turned back.

# ? Jun 3, 2017 22:49

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